Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
nomdeplume
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/05
#1Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:00pm
You know who.
Spit it out!
#1re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:01pmWould it be weird to say Fosca? She's so awful to herself, it hurts.
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nomdeplume
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/05
#2re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:03pm
If you mean Fosca from Passion, I kinda like her. And she does get her man.
But about that mean nanny in Mary Poppins?
#3re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:05pm
Oh, I never said I didn't like her. But, let's face it, she may get her man, but wow, she thinks of herself as ****, it seems to me.
I haven't seen Mary Poppins, so I'm not too sure.
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nomdeplume
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/05
#4re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:06pmJavert is a pretty vicious villain in Les Mis.
#5re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:10pmWow...
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#6re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:10pm
He's more obsessed than vicious, I think.
The Judge is really creepy and vicious. And, what about Jud? Jud has some problems he needs to resolve.
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#7re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:11pm
Mrs. Lovett.
Percival Glyde is a pretty big d*ck.
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#8re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:11pmI don't think Javert is really a villian. He just does what he thinks is best. He follows the law, and hunts down ValJean not because he's a nice guy, but because he broke the law and needs to face the consequences.
#9re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:13pm^Exactly. Hence my "Wow...", that is one of the most widely-known between-the-lines secrets.
-Benjamin
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#10re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:16pm
Well, every protagonist has an antagonist. If we look at Valjean as the protagonist, Javert is his antagonist.
Now, if we think of a villain has just some evil person with no motivation besides being evil, than Javert isn't. Most people aren't evil or villainous for the purpose of being an evil, villainous person. So, Javert can have a perfectly pure motivation and still be the villain of the story.
But, maybe I'm using or looking at villain incorrectly.
Some people paint, some people sew, I meddle.
mattnyc2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/27/06
#11re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 10:17pm
I don't know about vicious, but I'll go with along with Homer Simpson in that the Phantom is without a doubt the gayest villian of the stage.
"I am the phantom of the opera, beware my scented candles...SCENTED!"
nomdeplume
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/05
#12re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 11:15pm
Haha, scented candles for the Phantom. But what scent, I wonder?
Javert covers his villainy by obsessing on rules and the law. The one time he's nice he has to suicide 'cause he let his villainous self down. How do you like that take on the role?
#13re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/26/06 at 11:30pm
I've always looked at Lovett as the villan in Sweeney.
I kind of liken her to Lady Macbeth.
Lady Macbeth is my favorite villan of all time, if that counts.
The Witch in ITW.
Oh, those Sondheim women...
Thinking about this, there are very few obvious villans in musicals... at least no intriguing ones.
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-John Patrick Shanley
Updated On: 11/26/06 at 11:30 PM
#14re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 1:15amThe child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang or perhaps the plant in Little Shop of Horrors.
NathanLaneStalker
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/11/06
#15re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 1:17amThe Child Catcher always gave me chills! Kevin Cahoon was great and scared me but not half as much as Richard O'Brien!
"I'm tellin' you, the only times I really feel the presence of God are when I'm having sex and during a great Broadway musical." - Nathan Lane - Jeffrey
gumbo2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/21/05
#16re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 1:26amYeah the Child Catcher, also Gaston is pretty nasty in Beauty and the Beast. I would say the Judge in Sweeney is pretty bad.
NathanLaneStalker
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/11/06
#17re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 1:38am
Bud Frump - How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying
Captain Hook - Peter Pan
Mrs. Lovett - Sweeney
The Judge - Sweeney
Beadle - Sweeney
Gaston - Beauty and the Beast
Scar - The Lion King
The Child Catcher - Chitty
Lucy T. Slut - Avenue Q 
Madame Morbill (sp?) - Wicked
Velma - Hairspray
The Phantom - Phantom
The Witch - Into the Woods
Audrey II - Little Shop
Orin DDS - Little Shop
Mushnick? - Little Shop
Jack - Reefer Madness
Glen - The Wedding Singer
"I'm tellin' you, the only times I really feel the presence of God are when I'm having sex and during a great Broadway musical." - Nathan Lane - Jeffrey
geekgirl06
Featured Actor Joined: 11/9/06
#18re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 2:17am
Andrew Lloyd Weber!
Okay, seriously...
The Judge and Mrs. Lovett - Sweeney Todd
The Wizard and Madame Morrible - Wicked
Caiaphas - Jesus Christ Superstar
Tom Watson and Jim Conley - Parade
And of course the Disney musicals...
I like how in most musicals there is no definite good or evil, mostly a mix of both. Most have real characters, who all have reasons for which side they chose.
Dancing through life...
For the next ten minutes
#19re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 2:33amI have to agree with The Judge in Sweeney Todd and Percival Glyde in Woman in White. I would add Captain Ahrab in The Times They Are A-Changin', who is a pretty nasty piece of work.
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AnythingCanHappen
Featured Actor Joined: 11/5/06
#20re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 2:48am
Radames
Judge Turpin
Ms. Andrews
Glen Gulia (haha)
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#22re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 6:54amI never considered Radames to be a villain before, but I guess if you look at certain perspectives of the character..hmm, thats is rather interesting.
Your aspirations are your possibilities-Samuel Johnson (and a little help from nomdeplume)
#23re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 7:17amHow is Radames a villain?
Fabrizio2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/20/06
#24re: Who eez ze Most Vicious Villain of the Stage?
Posted: 11/27/06 at 7:33amPercival Glyde definately qualifies.
