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At least Brescia and Arden got good notices...this review was a bit too kind about the production I thought.
That review was already posted in this thread, but whatever:
https://www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=914975&dt=23
https://www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=914975&dt=23
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Well, at least, so far they don't say anything bad about Sesma... He's an old friend, and as much as I disliked the show, I don't like seeing friends (or anyone for that matter) being dissed in public...
Unfortunately, his "character" is set up to be hated by the audience from the get go... Hopefully, the critics won't blame him for that. His vocals are terrif.
Unfortunately, his "character" is set up to be hated by the audience from the get go... Hopefully, the critics won't blame him for that. His vocals are terrif.
"It's not so much do what you like, as it is that you like what you do." SS
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." GMarx
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." GMarx
I just found a negative review on the theatermania site--check it out......(Sorry that I don't know how to create a link to the article)
And now found another--also quite negative--the Talkin Broadway review (it's near the top of "All That Chat")
And now found another--also quite negative--the Talkin Broadway review (it's near the top of "All That Chat")
"THE KEYS TO THE VAULTS OF HEAVEN ARE BURIED SOMEWHERE IN A PRAYER"
Updated On: 10/26/06 at 09:56 PM
The New York Times is a pan:
And now for the latest heart-rending episode in Broadway’s own reality soap opera, “When Bad Shows Happen to Great Songwriters.”
If you happen to be among the masochists who make a habit of attending the entertainments called jukebox musicals, in which pop hits are beaten up by singing robots, you may think you’ve seen it all: the neutering of Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys in “Good Vibrations,” the canonizing (and shrinking) of John Lennon as a misunderstood angel-child in “Lennon,” and the forcible transformation of Johnny Cash from Man in Black to Sunshine Cowboy in “Ring of Fire.”
But even these spectacles of torture with a smile, frightening though they may be, are but bagatelles compared with the systematic steamrolling of Bob Dylan that occurs in “The Times They Are A-Changin’,” which opened last night at the Brooks Atkinson Theater.
Read on...
Tharp and Dylan, A-Knockin’ on the Circus Door
And now for the latest heart-rending episode in Broadway’s own reality soap opera, “When Bad Shows Happen to Great Songwriters.”
If you happen to be among the masochists who make a habit of attending the entertainments called jukebox musicals, in which pop hits are beaten up by singing robots, you may think you’ve seen it all: the neutering of Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys in “Good Vibrations,” the canonizing (and shrinking) of John Lennon as a misunderstood angel-child in “Lennon,” and the forcible transformation of Johnny Cash from Man in Black to Sunshine Cowboy in “Ring of Fire.”
But even these spectacles of torture with a smile, frightening though they may be, are but bagatelles compared with the systematic steamrolling of Bob Dylan that occurs in “The Times They Are A-Changin’,” which opened last night at the Brooks Atkinson Theater.
Read on...
Tharp and Dylan, A-Knockin’ on the Circus Door
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Updated On: 10/26/06 at 10:38 PM-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
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Dylan a la Ingmar Bergman, add clowns and you-name-it?
Hmmm...
How is the average theatre-goer going to feel about this? Left out?
Hmmm...
How is the average theatre-goer going to feel about this? Left out?
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Gotta love Brantley....the only critic who figures out how to bash other shows in his reviews.
"If you happen to be among the masochists who make a habit of attending the entertainments called jukebox musicals, in which pop hits are beaten up by singing robots, you may think you’ve seen it all: the neutering of Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys in “Good Vibrations,” the canonizing (and shrinking) of John Lennon as a misunderstood angel-child in “Lennon,” and the forcible transformation of Johnny Cash from Man in Black to Sunshine Cowboy in “Ring of Fire.”"
That paragraph, alone, is worth it.
I wouldn't even call that alone a pan - I'd call that a close-on-opening-night review.
Updated On: 10/26/06 at 10:49 PM"If you happen to be among the masochists who make a habit of attending the entertainments called jukebox musicals, in which pop hits are beaten up by singing robots, you may think you’ve seen it all: the neutering of Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys in “Good Vibrations,” the canonizing (and shrinking) of John Lennon as a misunderstood angel-child in “Lennon,” and the forcible transformation of Johnny Cash from Man in Black to Sunshine Cowboy in “Ring of Fire.”"
That paragraph, alone, is worth it.
I wouldn't even call that alone a pan - I'd call that a close-on-opening-night review.
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Brantley's review does mention him, though it would have been written before.
I wonder if they'd delay or change the review if someone else performed on opening night.
I wonder if they'd delay or change the review if someone else performed on opening night.
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Thanks to Frank Rich, opening night reviews are written days before the show opens. Critics don't see the actual opening night performance.
Since Arden only missed the last critics preview, only the 2nd and 3rd strings missed him - Talkin' Broadway, for one.
Since Arden only missed the last critics preview, only the 2nd and 3rd strings missed him - Talkin' Broadway, for one.
Musto too.
"I'm learning to dig deep down inside and find the truth within myself and put that out. I think what we identify with in popular music more than anything else is when someone just shares a truth that we can relate to. That's what I'm searching for in my music." - Ron Bohmer
"I broke the boundaries. It wasn't cool to be in plays- especially if you were in sports & I was in both." - Ashton Kutcher
"I broke the boundaries. It wasn't cool to be in plays- especially if you were in sports & I was in both." - Ashton Kutcher
Well, I thought Brantley would either give some fun dish, or a pretentious rave.
So--we got fun pretentious dish.
Works for me...
So--we got fun pretentious dish.
Works for me...
"It's not so much do what you like, as it is that you like what you do." SS
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." GMarx
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." GMarx
Not suprised at the reviews. I just watched the press release video and the line struck me "So don't critisize what you don't understand" And its for that reason I think no living creature on earth will EVER be able to critisize this show.
I have several names, one is Julian2. I am also The Opps Girl. But cross me, and I become Bitch Dooku!
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To think of all the money and all the work of putting a show together.
And the odds are so tough if you're not a Disney. Even if you have a good show it still needs bigtime marketing and money and experience to do that.
And the odds are so tough if you're not a Disney. Even if you have a good show it still needs bigtime marketing and money and experience to do that.
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I haven't seen Tarzan. But it has has months with large grosses and I have heard tourists saying they liked it afterward.
I'm not really big on children's shows, but families need them.
I'm not really big on children's shows, but families need them.
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Man I hope this lasts until December.
Dare I ask why?
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
Variety is Negative:
"Choreographer Twyla Tharp has frequently and successfully looked to unorthodox musical inspirations to create her distinctive dance pieces, among them the Beach Boys, Frank Sinatra, David Byrne and, notably, Billy Joel in her first foray into musical theater, "Movin' Out." While that show was a danced narrative set to music performed live by a singer and band separated from the action, Tharp attempts to expand her range by integrating song and movement to the music of Bob Dylan in "The Times They Are A-Changin'." But the mercurial dance innovator slips up badly in a plodding, literal-minded fable that's vibrant and busy but also chaotic and narratively incoherent.
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But after its tepid reception at San Diego's Old Globe in February, "Times" appears to have made little progress en route to New York. Watching the unengaging mess onstage at the Brooks Atkinson, it's hard to imagine how it could have been helped. The impression is that Tharp's auteurial command prevented anyone from pointing out that the concept is just plain lame.
Unlike Joel, a "piano man" whose songs tell self-contained stories that could serviceably be manipulated into a larger narrative, Dylan comes with a daunting load of iconic baggage attached. The singer-songwriter has been a figurehead for countercultural America, for the civil rights and anti-war movements, for the spirit of protest and unrest. Harnessing all that and a stylistically restless five-decade career in popular music to a silly story about a circus owner, his son and the animal trainer they both love feels like random trivialization -- regardless of the numerous references in Dylan's lyrics to circuses, carnivals and clowns.
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The generic father-son conflict is limiting enough; the greater problem is that Dylan's songs are introspective compositions generally not suited to the emotional overkill of Broadway-style reinterpretation. (Michael Dansicker arranged, adapted and supervised the music, sharing orchestration duties with Dylan, which mystifyingly indicates the latter must have approved the approach at some point.)
Playing ill-defined archetypes, the three leads work hard and sing well, but "Blowin' in the Wind" is simply an aberration when mutated into a pumped-up, overwrought anthem.
Tharp also has no idea how to make the songs dynamic, either planting the singers in declamatory deadlock or having them stride about aimlessly while assorted clowns skip, tumble, flip and bounce on the trampoline surfaces of Santo Loquasto's junkyard set. Even when the songs do summon some emotional intensity, all the awkward, hokey buffoonery going on in the background (in unfortunate Leigh Bowery-esque costumes and makeup) smothers it.
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117931974.html?categoryid=1265&cs=1
"Choreographer Twyla Tharp has frequently and successfully looked to unorthodox musical inspirations to create her distinctive dance pieces, among them the Beach Boys, Frank Sinatra, David Byrne and, notably, Billy Joel in her first foray into musical theater, "Movin' Out." While that show was a danced narrative set to music performed live by a singer and band separated from the action, Tharp attempts to expand her range by integrating song and movement to the music of Bob Dylan in "The Times They Are A-Changin'." But the mercurial dance innovator slips up badly in a plodding, literal-minded fable that's vibrant and busy but also chaotic and narratively incoherent.
________________________________________________________________
But after its tepid reception at San Diego's Old Globe in February, "Times" appears to have made little progress en route to New York. Watching the unengaging mess onstage at the Brooks Atkinson, it's hard to imagine how it could have been helped. The impression is that Tharp's auteurial command prevented anyone from pointing out that the concept is just plain lame.
Unlike Joel, a "piano man" whose songs tell self-contained stories that could serviceably be manipulated into a larger narrative, Dylan comes with a daunting load of iconic baggage attached. The singer-songwriter has been a figurehead for countercultural America, for the civil rights and anti-war movements, for the spirit of protest and unrest. Harnessing all that and a stylistically restless five-decade career in popular music to a silly story about a circus owner, his son and the animal trainer they both love feels like random trivialization -- regardless of the numerous references in Dylan's lyrics to circuses, carnivals and clowns.
_______________________________________________________________
The generic father-son conflict is limiting enough; the greater problem is that Dylan's songs are introspective compositions generally not suited to the emotional overkill of Broadway-style reinterpretation. (Michael Dansicker arranged, adapted and supervised the music, sharing orchestration duties with Dylan, which mystifyingly indicates the latter must have approved the approach at some point.)
Playing ill-defined archetypes, the three leads work hard and sing well, but "Blowin' in the Wind" is simply an aberration when mutated into a pumped-up, overwrought anthem.
Tharp also has no idea how to make the songs dynamic, either planting the singers in declamatory deadlock or having them stride about aimlessly while assorted clowns skip, tumble, flip and bounce on the trampoline surfaces of Santo Loquasto's junkyard set. Even when the songs do summon some emotional intensity, all the awkward, hokey buffoonery going on in the background (in unfortunate Leigh Bowery-esque costumes and makeup) smothers it.
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117931974.html?categoryid=1265&cs=1
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That's so funny! Just as I was watching the review video on Broadway.com, the commercial came on on tv. The commercial actually makes it look better than the reviews make it out to be.
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Cause I'll be in New York in December (fingers crossed). I'd really like to see Arden live. I've been a fan of his voice for a while now. He's one of my Broadway idols.
Hoping it lasts long enough for a cast recording...
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Theatremania is Negative:
"Twyla Tharp got in on the jukebox-musical ground floor. Way back in the 1970's, she raided the Beach Boys catalog for her dance pieces Deuce Coupe and Deuce Coupe II. Subsequently, she tackled the Frank Sinatra canon in Nine Sinatra Songs, and with the more recent Broadway musical Movin' Out, she lionized Billy Joel. Now she's conceived, directed, and choreographed The Times They Are A-Changin', a Bob Dylan entry that lands somewhere between dance piece and musical. But where Movin' Out is a work of art, The Times They Are A-Changin' registers only as hard labor.
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But after rummaging through the Dylan oeuvre, she's imagined something else entirely: an allegory set in a seedy circus run by an oppressive ringmaster.
At least, that's what a program note says, but it's doubtful whether the narrative will come across to anyone who hasn't read the summary. I'm certainly not convinced I would have known what in blazes was going on if I hadn't. To fill you in, I'll just quote from that helpful foreword: "Captain Ahrab [taken, I suppose, from Dylan's "115th Dream"] is a tyrannical leader crippled by greed. Coyote sees the faults of his father and wants his life and everyone else's to change. Cleo has found shelter at the circus and is trying to survive."
That's about all you need to know. Indeed, it may be much more than you'll want to know about the plot, since none of it is as edifying about the human condition as Tharp would like to believe. Whatever the often rewarding dance purveyor is doing, it doesn't jibe with the Dylan material. Indeed, what Tharp does to some of Dylan's songs -- amid Santo Loquasto's gaudy sets and costumes and Donald Holder's flashing lights -- shouldn't happen to a dog. (By the way, there is a dog onstage; well, a dancer impersonating Cleo's dog.) For example, Tharp lops off a crucial section of the superb torch song "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right," discarding the emotionally stunning lyrics: I once loved a woman -- a child I'm told/I gave her my heart, but she wanted my soul." Yes, the song is belted by Cleo (Lisa Brescia), the unhappy performer torn between Ahrab (Thom Sesma) and his son, Coyote (Michael Arden), but the gender references could have been changed without harming Dylan's casual meter.
It gets worse. The Up-With People staging of "Blowin' in the Wind" is so cheesy it even elicited boos at the press performance I attended. (When was the last time you heard boos during a Broadway show?) And while Coyote sits on a floating crescent moon to sing "Mr. Tambourine Man" (and thereby conjuring Mame's Bea Arthur warbling "The Man in the Moon Is a Lady"), Tharp has a shadow-play skeleton appear. Clearly, she believes that Mr. Tambourine Man is the Grim Reaper, which is obviously her right."
http://www.theatermania.com/content/news.cfm/story/9314
"Twyla Tharp got in on the jukebox-musical ground floor. Way back in the 1970's, she raided the Beach Boys catalog for her dance pieces Deuce Coupe and Deuce Coupe II. Subsequently, she tackled the Frank Sinatra canon in Nine Sinatra Songs, and with the more recent Broadway musical Movin' Out, she lionized Billy Joel. Now she's conceived, directed, and choreographed The Times They Are A-Changin', a Bob Dylan entry that lands somewhere between dance piece and musical. But where Movin' Out is a work of art, The Times They Are A-Changin' registers only as hard labor.
_____________________________________________________________
But after rummaging through the Dylan oeuvre, she's imagined something else entirely: an allegory set in a seedy circus run by an oppressive ringmaster.
At least, that's what a program note says, but it's doubtful whether the narrative will come across to anyone who hasn't read the summary. I'm certainly not convinced I would have known what in blazes was going on if I hadn't. To fill you in, I'll just quote from that helpful foreword: "Captain Ahrab [taken, I suppose, from Dylan's "115th Dream"] is a tyrannical leader crippled by greed. Coyote sees the faults of his father and wants his life and everyone else's to change. Cleo has found shelter at the circus and is trying to survive."
That's about all you need to know. Indeed, it may be much more than you'll want to know about the plot, since none of it is as edifying about the human condition as Tharp would like to believe. Whatever the often rewarding dance purveyor is doing, it doesn't jibe with the Dylan material. Indeed, what Tharp does to some of Dylan's songs -- amid Santo Loquasto's gaudy sets and costumes and Donald Holder's flashing lights -- shouldn't happen to a dog. (By the way, there is a dog onstage; well, a dancer impersonating Cleo's dog.) For example, Tharp lops off a crucial section of the superb torch song "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right," discarding the emotionally stunning lyrics: I once loved a woman -- a child I'm told/I gave her my heart, but she wanted my soul." Yes, the song is belted by Cleo (Lisa Brescia), the unhappy performer torn between Ahrab (Thom Sesma) and his son, Coyote (Michael Arden), but the gender references could have been changed without harming Dylan's casual meter.
It gets worse. The Up-With People staging of "Blowin' in the Wind" is so cheesy it even elicited boos at the press performance I attended. (When was the last time you heard boos during a Broadway show?) And while Coyote sits on a floating crescent moon to sing "Mr. Tambourine Man" (and thereby conjuring Mame's Bea Arthur warbling "The Man in the Moon Is a Lady"), Tharp has a shadow-play skeleton appear. Clearly, she believes that Mr. Tambourine Man is the Grim Reaper, which is obviously her right."
http://www.theatermania.com/content/news.cfm/story/9314
"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie
[http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/]
"The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney
Updated On: 10/27/06 at 12:03 AM








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