Liza & Lorna

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do_re_milla
#0Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/26/03 at 1:16pm

As I was reading on 1 of the boards about Lorna, I recalled having seen Lorna singing in a night club several (many?) yrs ago in NYC. Anyone remember this? Was it Rainbow & Stars?

I distinctly remember thinking that Lorna sounded like young Judy & Liza the more "mature" Judy.

Milla

Horsey2
#1re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/26/03 at 1:23pm

Lorna appeared at RAINBOW & STARS several times.

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TheaterBaby
#2re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/26/03 at 2:03pm

Lorna has a wonderful singing voice, and Liza is definitely the performer in the family...though I've never had the pleasure of seeing Lorna live. re: re: Liza & Lorna


"It's the little things; the details, that distinguish the Barbra Streisands from the Rosalyn Kinds."~Gilmore Girls~

#3re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/26/03 at 2:15pm

I recall Lorna in a show I saw when I was younger. I cannot recall where but she does have a very pleasant singing voice.

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Seany
#4re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/26/03 at 2:41pm

Am I the only one who likes Lorna A LOT more than Liza?


There's a light in the darkness of everybody's life.

Horsey2
#5re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/26/03 at 3:01pm

Yes, Seany, you might be the only one who likes Lorna a lot better than Liza. re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna

#6re: re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/26/03 at 3:03pm

yes i think so seany, lol, although lorna was alot of fun in, dare i say it, grease 2.
LOVIN' LIZA MINNELLI

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Seany
#7re: re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/26/03 at 3:03pm

Eh...I grew up on Grease 2. What can I say?


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Posted: 11/26/03 at 3:05pm

no, don't get me wrong, grease 2 is a fav, but ALOT of people on this post condem those who even mention it, lol. re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna

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#9re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/26/03 at 11:39pm

Yes, Grease 2 can be added to my list of Guilty Pleasure movies. re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
LOL that Seasons song was like a knockoff of "His Love Makes Me Beautiful" from Funny Girl. re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna And who doesn't love Michelle's pointless solo in the middle of that song. Tell me how she won that contest when that part of the song had nothing to do with the seasons!? And yet, I still watch it.


"It's the little things; the details, that distinguish the Barbra Streisands from the Rosalyn Kinds."~Gilmore Girls~

cliffarico
#10 Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/27/03 at 10:51am

I was lucky to see Lorna Luft's Songs My Mother Taught Me, in Atlantic City in Jan 2002. She, it was great. I can only hope that she brings it back to the NYC area....
CB

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alterego
#11re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/28/03 at 12:27am

I'll go for Lorna in this debate. Better singer and actress, especially now. She has Broadway credits too, at 19 she took over the female lead in Promises, Promises and played Adelaide on tour and on Broadway in the most recent revival. She was Sonia in the national tour of They're Playing Our Song.A few months ago she played Rose in a production of Gypsy

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MasterLcZ
#12re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/28/03 at 10:50pm

I just can never forgive Lorna for having Satan's spawn as her father.


"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"

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alterego
#13re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/28/03 at 11:15pm

Why Satans spawn?

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MaxHolmes
#14re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/28/03 at 11:39pm

Gee, why can't The Sisters stop all this feuding and work TOGETHER? Mama Judy once said she wanted to do a musical version of "Baby Jane" -- now tell me, what other role could Liza, at this freak-show stage of her career, play more convincingly than Baby Jane Hudson? Lorna could play Blanche. Yeah, I know, it's a tedious role, but throw her a big solo as she drags her ass down the stairs -- let her show that, yes, she has -- and has always had -- a better voice than Liza.

Do we all know the story about when Judy went to see Lorna in her high school musical? This was, of course, AFTER sister Liza had already won the Tony for Flora. But Lorna was so wonderful in her show that, after her first number as the audience applauded wildly, Judy turned to her companion and said, "F*CK Liza. THIS one's gonna pay my rent."

I guess the discussion may well be about why Liza made it and Lorna didn't...

tkts
#15re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/29/03 at 12:08am

Didn't Lorna do "They're Playing Our Song" on Broadway for a while way back?


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Victoria Grant
#16re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/29/03 at 12:32am

Lorna was on the Jerry Lewis Telethon this past Sept she sang
"Smile" she did a really great job.

Horsey!!!
#17re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/29/03 at 2:49am

>>>I guess the discussion may well be about why Liza made it and Lorna didn't...<<<

Two words; "star quality."
Liza had it in droves.
Lorna had none.

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lensman55
#18re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/29/03 at 12:20pm

>Eh...I grew up on Grease 2. What can I say?

You led a warped and twisted childhood!


"Now and then life hits you on the back of the head with a sock full of wet porridge. How you handle that is up to you." - Tim Rice

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BrdwyThtr
#19re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/29/03 at 3:07pm

Hey! I grew up on Grease 2 too. I remember dancing around to "Reproduction".

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MasterLcZ
#20re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/29/03 at 7:13pm

Lorna's father, Sid Luft defines the phrase "bloodsucking slimeball".
He saw Judy Garland as only one thing - his meal ticket.


"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"
Updated On: 11/29/03 at 07:13 PM

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#21re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/30/03 at 1:37pm

I love Lorna more simply because of Grease 2. Any movie that can make a song about bowling into the best song in the score is fine with me.

ShineOn
#22re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 11/30/03 at 2:41pm

Lorna was the ONLY good part of that stupid movie! I've ALWAYS been more a fan of Lorna than Liza's. The only reason Liza is bigger is because she's CRAZIER and when you're crazy and have a kooky personality it makes you more interesting to watch. Liza is just a famous personality who throws in a few songs because she can't very well just stand there (and is possibly under the very false assumption that she CAN sing)... Lorna is the *talent*. Don't get me wrong, Liza has ALL kinds of presence and IS fun to watch, but biatch is insane (i'm not prejudice... crazy people are my faves) and CAN'T sing.


"You! You are the worst thing to happen to musical theatre since Andrew Lloyd Webber! And you, well, I just plain don't like you."
~Stewart Gilligan Griffin

#23re: re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 12/1/03 at 3:14am

I, too, grew up on and loved "Grease! 2", and Lorna's performance as Paulette.

That being said, I'm not a big fan of Lorna's LIVE performance ability. She was a dreadful Adelaide on tour - no stage presence and lacking in the vocal department. Big disappointment. HOWEVER, this *is* the only impression I have of her stage work and would be interested in giving her another shot.

Liza, on the other hand, has always been a joy to watch on stage or screen. Her voice (at least the way it used to be) reminded me a lot of her mother: very raw and very emotional.

Just my two cents re: re: re: re: re: re: Liza & Lorna

Love,
Joshua

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#24re: re: re: Liza & Lorna
Posted: 12/1/03 at 3:39am

Two words; "star quality."
Liza had it in droves.
Lorna had none.

=== And what does "star quality" mean? That names a phenomenon without defining it. Mystery of the Ages... I've seen Liza on stage eight or nine times over the last 31 years. I can't imagine showing up for Lorna that often. So I agree, there is an enormous "You Gotta Watch Her" factor with Liza, whereas with Lorna -- well, there's just NOT. Liza is perhaps the ultimate of the "She's a Star because she's a Star" breed. What else could Liza be but a star? No one (no one) has ever had her feverish, near-psychotic onstage exhibitionism and desparate need to be adored. Never a particularly good voice, though her style was incredibly compelling. God knows, no looks. As an actress, she was never able to conform to any characterization beyond her own personality. But to contradict Judy, "F*CK Lorna. Liza paid the rent."