THE PROM new song and potential Oscar noms

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 11/16/20 at 12:08pm

Supposedly their shot at an Oscar nom for Original Song is a new cut called "Wear Your Crown" by Sklar and Beguelin, which features a Meryl Streep rap- something I think she hasn't done since Into the Woods. This will be heard during the end credits of The Prom.

Also, the film will now be released on Netflix on December 4- it's been moved up by a week! 

Edited: Corden, Streep, and Pellman will all be eligible for Leading Actor/Actress nods. The rest of the principals- minus Chamberlin- are up for Featured nominations.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Meryl-Streep-Raps-in-THE-PROM-According-to-Ryan-Murphy-20201116

 

Updated On: 11/16/20 at 12:08 PM

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 11/16/20 at 12:53pm

According to Netflix, the film is still scheduled for December 11, 2020. December 4, 2020 is the theatrical release date to qualify for awards season, which mandates the film has to be released theatrically BEFORE being shown on a streaming platform.

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 11/16/20 at 1:01pm

Variety also still says 12/11 Netflix release. This must have been a BWW typo in their article. 

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 11/16/20 at 1:10pm

Is there any Oscar competition? Everything got bumped.

[MayAudraBlessYou2]

Posted: 11/16/20 at 1:42pm

SouthernCakes said: "Is there any Oscar competition? Everything got bumped."

Lead Actress is actually the most competitive its been in a few years. In addition to Streep you have Frances McDormand (Nomadland), Vanessa Kirby (Pieces of a Woman), Viola Davis (Ma Rainey), Kate Winslet (Ammonite), Michelle Pfeiffer (French Exit), Sophia Loren (Life Ahead), Andra Day (United States vs Billie Holiday) , Rashida Jones (On the Rocks). And possible contenders from Jessie Buckley, Anya Taylor-Joy, Elizabeth Moss, Amy Adams, and Carey Mulligan.

[MadonnaMusical]

Posted: 11/16/20 at 7:18pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "According to Netflix, the film is still scheduled for December 11, 2020. December 4, 2020 is the theatrical release date to qualify for awards season, which mandates the film has to be released theatrically BEFORE being shown on a streaming platform. "

I believe the Academy waved that this year though.

[VotePeron]

Posted: 11/17/20 at 12:30pm

Re: Oscars -

The eligibility deadline for films is now through February, so many, many contenders for Best Picture won't be in the general discussion until around then when studios firmly decide what to push.

As for what's eligible, any film that was released digitally *with the original intent of releasing theatrically* is eligible. For that reason, Netflix is throwing the film into a few theaters on 12/4 to show theatrical intent before the release online 12/11.

As for it's chances, I can see it picking up some Globe noms, but the visuals look straight out of Cats and the material is just so weak, I can't imagine it making a big splash at the Oscars. I guess of all years, this would be the one to do so, though. Netflix has a slew of Awards contenders they've paid hundreds of millions for, so I don't believe The Prom is high on their list. 

 

[Musical Master]

Posted: 11/17/20 at 1:48pm

"The visuals look straight out of Cats"??? Uh, I thought it looked perfectly fine from the trailers, it's not even close Cats' horrible visuals. But I do agree that it'll do fine at the Golden Globes and nothing else.

[Kad]

Posted: 11/17/20 at 1:54pm

I think folks are wildly overestimating the material's strength for the Oscars, even in a weird year. This is far lighter fare than the Academy goes for (and, imo, I thought the show itself was solidly B-tier stuff, too).

Updated On: 11/17/20 at 01:54 PM

[bjh2114]

Posted: 11/17/20 at 6:57pm

Kad said: "I think folks are wildly overestimating the material's strength for the Oscars, even in a weird year. This is far lighter fare than the Academy goes for (and, imo, I thought the show itself was solidly B-tier stuff, too)."

Exactly. Will we see Meryl get a Golden Globe nomination? Almost certainly. But I'll be shocked if we see any Oscar nominations for this.

[Chowd95]

Posted: 11/18/20 at 3:38am

VotePeron said: "Re: Oscars -

The eligibility deadline for films is now through February, so many, many contenders for Best Picture won't be in the general discussion until around then when studios firmly decide what to push.

As for what's eligible, any film that was released digitally *with the original intent of releasing theatrically* is eligible. For that reason, Netflix is throwing the film into a few theaters on 12/4 to show theatrical intent before the release online 12/11.

As for it's chances, I can see it picking up some Globe noms, but the visuals look straight out of Cats and the material is just so weak, I can't imagine it making abigsplash at the Oscars. I guess of all years, this would be the one to do so, though. Netflix has a slew of Awards contenders they've paid hundreds of millions for, so I don't believe The Prom is high on their list.

"

How do the visuals look like Cats?

[bdn223]

Posted: 11/18/20 at 11:10am

We still don't know if this years Oscars are happening...as there's a rumor they might just scrap them all together considering a negligible number of films have been released compared to years past due to Covid. 

The Prom is too feel good for any major Oscar nominations, I would comp it more to Hairspray. It's Oscar hopes are more in acting categories for a breakout performance and then below the line nominations like sound mixing, cinematography, costumes.

I think Netflix is hoping Ryan Murphy has created enough of a singular auteur level vision for the film that it could make a case for director akin to Aaron Sorkin. Murphy's TV work is instantly recognizable in its both visual and writing that Netflix is hoping for similar ascetics in his film work. Add to that there already a plot for Murphy to follow so The Prom should not burnout halfway through like most of his TV shows do when its clear Murphy and his team only planned the first half of the season out before they started filming. 

[Ftworthguy]

Posted: 11/18/20 at 2:24pm

bjh2114 said: "Kad said: "I think folks are wildly overestimating the material's strength for the Oscars, even in a weird year. This is far lighter fare than the Academy goes for (and, imo, I thought the show itself was solidly B-tier stuff, too)."

Exactly. Will we see Meryl get a Golden Globe nomination? Almost certainly. But I'll be shocked if we see any Oscar nominations for this."

Don't ever count out Meryl at the Oscars.   She got an Oscar nomination for "Music of the Heart"  So nothing is impossible  :) 

 

[MayAudraBlessYou2]

Posted: 11/19/20 at 12:43pm

In terms of Oscar chances, I'd say it has good odds for Lead Actress (Streep) and Original Song. Depending on how the year goes, it could also show up in Sound Mixing, Costume Design, and Production Design.

It is probably a long shot for anything beyond that. I cant envision it sneaking into Best Picture unless voters become desperate for a feel good tonic amid a national coronavirus shutdown....which I guess is a possibility at this point.

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 11/20/20 at 12:22am

I agree that the material isn’t typically up Oscars fodder...but I think what helps is that it’s one of the few films this year that isn’t painfully depressing. If voters want a lighter but still heartfelt option, this could be it.

[CPannullo]

Posted: 11/20/20 at 12:55am

USA Today released a first listen to the song “Wear Your Crown.” I’m going to link the YouTube link and USA Today article.

https://youtu.be/ZLMHFnX13L4


https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6348663002?__twitter_impression=true

Updated On: 11/20/20 at 12:55 AM

[EDSOSLO858]

Posted: 11/20/20 at 1:15am

This sounds more generic and cliché than the majority of Sklar and Beguelin's scores for The Wedding Singer and Elf. The lyrics are nothing short of atrocious/chock-full of slant rhymes and Streep's rap is underwhelming. Now I know I probably won't watch the end credits of The Prom on December 11th. At the very least, I know the rest of the score is leagues better than this.

 

Updated On: 11/20/20 at 01:15 AM

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 11/20/20 at 1:57am

Well, there go its chances for Best Original Song. 

[LaVieBoheme]

Posted: 11/28/20 at 1:35pm

Jordan Levinson said: "This sounds more generic and cliché than the majorityof Sklar and Beguelin's scores forTheWedding SingerandElf. The lyrics are nothing short of atrocious/chock-full of slant rhymes and Streep's rap is underwhelming. Now I know I probably won't watch the end credits of The Promon December 11th. At the very least, I know the rest of the score is leagues better than this.

"

I would honestly just chalk that up to the song being a rush job. The article I was reading Ryan said he got to the end of the movie and thought the end credits needed a feel good song for people to go out on, then he just threw in "oh by the way I want Meryl to rap" at them. 

So to me it just kinda sounds like a rush job, and not really enough time to make tweaks or anything. As opposed to the rest of the score that they spent many months/ years developing and perfecting to get the final product. 

Those are my thoughts anyway. I actually haven't listened to it yet, I'm gonna wait until I see the movie before I listen to the music. 

Updated On: 11/29/20 at 01:35 PM

[dramamama611]

Posted: 11/28/20 at 4:02pm

To the OP: WHAT is your obsession with awards? That in itself has no bearing on the quality or success of ANYTHING. It's much more pleasant to just hope that any projuct speaks to you. If it foes, then nothing else matters.

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 11/29/20 at 4:56pm

Watching it right now and I just adore Keegan Michael-Key, tbh. But also all of the leads are phenomenal. I adore this cast! If they couldn't get the Broadway cast, they did a great job with these actors. I'm loving them. 

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 11/29/20 at 5:00pm

I mean it was pretty ok

[CPannullo]

Posted: 11/29/20 at 9:25pm

Where are you guys watching it? Early screenings?

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 11/29/20 at 9:30pm

Yeah I’ve seen some friends watching it. I’m assuming earlier viewers for people in the industry.

I don’t really see Ryan Murphy = Oscar gold, but you never know.

The only thing I’ve seen so far is the new Glenn Close film, that would be a sure Oscar nom.

[Kad]

Posted: 11/29/20 at 10:23pm

I watched tonight, courtesy of a press friend with a screener code.

I have been upfront with the fact that I did not love the stage show.

I think the movie does the show absolutely no favors.

There have been very few major changes made for the adaptation, which results in a very long and dragging film, and only highlights the flaws of the book. Murphy inexplicably bathes almost every musical numbers in teal and magenta light, and his fetishization of wealth continues in his depiction of Edgewater, IN: this suburban town is loaded with huge new houses, a huge new school, and an enormous high-end mall from which the immaculate townsfolk get their clothes. Emma, who is consistently knocked for her style, is... exceptionally stylish.

The cast acquits itself... fine. There’s no real standout, to me. Corden’s casting remains somewhat baffling to me- he’s too young for the character as written. Kidman is having a lot of fun, but clearly uses a double and a lot of simplified choreography for “Zazz.” Meryl is giving almost a parody of Meryl: all of her actorly tics are on display and bigger than ever. I kind of forgot about Rannells when he wasn’t onscreen.

I can’t lay this solely at the feet of Murphy, but someone who has never had a great grasp on tonal shifts is not what this show needed.



 

Updated On: 11/29/20 at 10:23 PM