TONYA WAS ROBBED
TONYA WAS ROBBED
Broadway61004
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/14/11
broadwayboy223
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/2/14
#4TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/5/20 at 7:21pmTonya Pinkins was most definitely robbed. I’d love to see her replace Sharon and finally get the Tony!
#5TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/5/20 at 7:29pmSharon is remarkable though and deserves to be seen on broadway.
blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#6TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 3:45pmIt's not only that she was robbed. It's that the award went to the most inept of the nominees.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#7TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 4:26pm
Inept: Having or showing no skill.
Yeah, Idina Menzel is SUPER inept.
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#8TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 5:13pmI’m a HUGE fan of Wicked, but Idina doesn’t hold a candle to what Tonya accomplished. It’s crazy to me she wasn’t the front runner that season.
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#9TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 5:17pm
I was surprised that Idina won in that category as well but in no way, shape or form is she "inept". People who are inept don't get past regional dinner theater, sorry.
#10TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 5:19pmHard agree and it makes me wonder how much it would’ve affected Tonyas career had she won. Shame.
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#11TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 5:22pm
Sutton Ross said: "I was surprised that Idina won in that category as well but in no way, shape or form is she "inept". People who are inept don't get past regional dinner theater, sorry."
The comment calling Idina inept was in comparison to the other nominees. Not all other actors. So, yes, she was the most inept of the nominees.
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Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
wiggum2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/21/03
#13TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 5:37pm
Caroline or Change was one of the only shows I have ever thought about leaving at intermission... I only remember Anika Noni Rose and came to appreciate the song lot's wife well after I saw the show. I don't think Tonya was robbed of anything.
#15TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 6:10pm
wiggum2 said: "Caroline or Change was one of the only shows I have ever thought about leaving at intermission... I only remember Anika Noni Rose and came to appreciate the song lot's wife well after I saw the show. I don't think Tonya was robbed of anything."
Your profile picture is Ralph Wiggum, so your opinion is moot.
In our millions, in our billions, we are most powerful when we stand together. TW4C unwaveringly joins the worldwide masses, for we know our liberation is inseparably bound.
Signed,
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wiggum2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/21/03
#16TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 7:59pm
Call_me_jorge said: "wiggum2 said: "Caroline or Change was one of the only shows I have ever thought about leaving at intermission... I only remember Anika Noni Rose and came to appreciate the song lot's wife well after I saw the show. I don't think Tonya was robbed of anything."
Your profile picture is Ralph Wiggum, so your opinion is moot."
blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#17TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 8:54pm
Call_me_jorge said: "Sutton Ross said: "I was surprised that Idina won in that category as well but in no way, shape or form is she "inept". People who are inept don't get past regional dinner theater, sorry."
The comment calling Idina inept was in comparison tothe other nominees. Not all other actors. So, yes, she was the most inept of the nominees."
And inept is a soft term to use. Lady showed her lack of stage experience while her co-star held the show together. If they wanted to throw Wicked a bone for giving Avenue Q everything else, they could have found a different category.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
SouthernCakes
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/19
#18TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 8:58pmI agree Tonya was robbed. But Wicked kind of shot Idina into stardom, so I think the Tonys got caught up in that.
ScottK
Understudy Joined: 12/13/12
#19TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 11:08pm
WICKED was robbed.
And, looking at many of the past 10-15 years of best actress wins--very few were catapulted to stardom, or even a "better" career.
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#20TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/6/20 at 11:49pm
And inept is a soft term to use. Lady showed her lack of stage experience while her co-star held the show together. If they wanted to throw Wicked a bone for giving Avenue Q everything else, they could have found a different category."
Her name is Idina, not lady and she did not have a lack of stage experience, how ridiculous. It was 16 years ago, get over it.
blaxx
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/05
#21TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/7/20 at 12:11am
Sutton Ross said: "And inept is a soft term to use. Lady showed her lack of stage experience while her co-star held the show together. If they wanted to throw Wicked a bone for giving Avenue Q everything else, they could have found a different category."
Her name is Idina, not lady and she did not have a lack of stage experience, how ridiculous. It was 16 years ago, get over it."
Agreed that Pinkins was robbed and it was ridiculous, my dear Karen.
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#23TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/7/20 at 7:49amFor those who were ‘in the room that happened’ who was the actual favourite to win? Did Tonya ever really stand a chance? Was this an upset like Raul in Company?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Broadway61004
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/14/11
#24TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/7/20 at 9:05am
qolbinau said: "For those who were ‘in the room that happened’ who was the actual favourite to win? Did Tonya ever really stand a chance? Was this an upset like Raul in Company?"
David Hyde Pierce winning over Raul was definitely much more surprising than this was. I think most people going into the ceremony would have said it was between Tonya and Donna Murphy, although with both having won Tonys before (not to mention Murphy missing a lot of performances), Idina was definitely a popular choice to pull the upset. But I wouldn't say it was a huge upset, more of a mild one.
Sutton Ross said: "I was surprised that Idina won in that category as well but in no way, shape or form is she "inept". People who are inept don't get past regional dinner theater, sorry."
And Sutton Ross, while I don't disagree that Idina is not inept, let's not forget that Donald Trump has a Broadway credit. So that's an awfully broad statement that no one who is inept can get past regional dinner theatre.
LarryD2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/1/14
#25TONYA WAS ROBBED
Posted: 8/7/20 at 10:39am
Donna Murphy was thought to be the favorite going into the Tonys. She won the Outer Critics Circle and Drama Desk Awards -- however, those awards are given by critics' organizations, whose members by and large saw Murphy at press performances early in the run, when she was in spectacular form. Because Murphy missed so many performances throughout her run, some Tony voters didn't even get to see her, and others were not sympathetic to her frequent absences. (The real reason for her absenteeism was not public knowledge at the time.) There was also popular opinion that Kristin Chenoweth and Idina Menzel would "cancel each other out," or that if one was going to win, it would be Chenoweth. I do think Idina's win was an upset in many ways. Of the five nominees, I would have voted for Pinkins in a heartbeat -- hers remains one of the most incredible performances I've ever seen, in nearly 40 years of attending Broadway theater.
