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Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?

Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?

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Someone in a Tree2
#1Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?
Posted: 8/4/20 at 3:05pm

Endless pet peeves but I'll just name three:

Cynthia Erivo is missing from every Best Performer of the decade list (which she certainly was).

Bridges of Madison County is missing from the Best Musical of the decade list (which is certainly was).

An American in Paris is missing from the best Set Design of the decade list (which it certainly was).

Anyone else have complaints (or praise)?

Updated On: 8/4/20 at 03:05 PM

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binau
#2Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?
Posted: 8/4/20 at 3:39pm

I guess from looking at a few of the categories the people that are voting are just very mainstream.


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

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JBroadway
#3Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?
Posted: 8/4/20 at 3:46pm

Like all awards, these are skewed by the demographics of the voter base. Shows with younger fan bases are more likely to be vote in these kinds of awards. And in a similar vein, the more passionate the fan base, the more likely they are to go out of their way to vote, and rally the other fans to vote too. And more recent shows are more likely to have young, active fan-bases. 

Not to mention, shows that are more famous/more widely talked about are more likely to receive votes, simply because more people will have seen them. Unlike real awards bodies, you don't have to have seen all of the nominees in order to vote in a category. 

This is always how the fan-choice awards are. 

 

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Someone in a Tree2
#4Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?
Posted: 8/4/20 at 4:35pm

Serves me right-- it's just a dumb fan quiz anyway, but in what world is Cynthia Erivo not mainstream?

Broadway61004
#5Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?
Posted: 8/4/20 at 4:45pm

So just to clarify, zero plays had any costumes designed for them and "Head Over Heels" and "The Cher Show" are possible shows to vote on for Best Musical but "Book of Mormon" is not.  Got it, makes perfect sense, BroadwayWorld.

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JBroadway
#6Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?
Posted: 8/4/20 at 5:20pm


Again, BroadwayWorld didn’t pick the nominees, fans did. There was a voting period where people could enter in their preferred nominees in each category, and the BWW team presumably picked the ones that received the most votes.

I find many of the inclusions and omissions egregious, but at the end of the day, you just have to accept that this is the literal definition of a popularity contest, with a certain kind of popularity favored over others (see my post above). Nowadays, the fan base for a show like Book of Mormon wouldn’t be as likely to vote on something like this as as the fan base for a recent musical was young, active cult following.

Especially because the nomination voting process was pretty time-consuming (you had to hand-type your picks into individual text boxes, for each of the many categories). And there are some demographics who have more time on their hands than others right now.

Broadway61004
#7Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?
Posted: 8/4/20 at 5:30pm

JBroadway said: "
Again, BroadwayWorld didn’t pick the nominees, fans did. There was a voting period where people could enter in their preferred nominees in each category, and the BWW team presumably picked the ones that received the most votes.

I find many of the inclusions and omissions egregious, but at the end of the day, you just have to accept that this is the literal definition of a popularity contest, with a certain kind of popularity favored over others (see my post above). Nowadays, the fan base for a show like Book of Mormon wouldn’t be as likely to vote on something like this as as the fan base for a recent musical was young, active cult following.

Especially because the nomination voting process was pretty time-consuming (you had to hand-type your picks into individual text boxes, for each of the many categories). And there are some demographics who have more time on their hands than others right now.
"

Sorry, I was referring to the BroadwayWorld community in general (meaning everyone who visited this site and voted) when I said "makes perfect sense", not the moderators or the site in general.  But I will send a sarcastic "great job" in their direction as well for making it so difficult to vote.

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binau
#8Why must the Theater Fans Choice Awards be so full of omissions?
Posted: 8/4/20 at 6:06pm

I look at 'Best Replacements' of the decade, not a single mention of Bernadette Peters in A Little NIght Music or Marin Mazzie in next to normal. And yet Sadie Sink (whoever that is) is currently coming in second for Annie lol.

Spongebob squarepants the 3rd best score of the decade? ok

Of course, you could say that it's very funny of us to complain about it and not even participate. We are partially to blame. 


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000