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Could this be the end of live theatre, period?

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Though theatergoing has been a form of leisure dating back to ancient days, I am starting to think that this epidemic might eradicate live theatre for good. Even before the whole crisis, I think it was starting to get less and less appeal, and I certainly find it possible to believe people in the future will get their entertainment from binge-watching Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Disney+, etc. 

Does anyone else think any form of theatre (or, for that matter, large gatherings) around the world will be able to recover from this massacre? The fallout will be inevitably enormous; I also don't see sports, heavily attended parties, religious services, weddings, funerals, hugging/kissing/sex/high-fiving/fist-bumping, and humans touching other humans ever returning to world culture.

What are your thoughts on this?

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You really think the end of physical community, and that humankind will retreat into a permanent hermetic existence?

We are too bored, and too horny, for this to really happen.
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Yep. Never again will live theatre exist. Even after the vaccine and testing, nobody will ever perform in front of an audience ever again.

EVER.
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We have had pandemics before. And we have had theater closures before. Humans have short memories. 

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Only if after freedom to assemble they also take away freedom to dissemble. Not a lot of art in Puritan England or in Gilead.
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100% disagree. Is this a sarcastic post?

Live theatre is one of the few major art forms that was around during the last major pandemic in the US (1918). It came back then. It will come back this time too as will all those other things you mentioned. The question is when, not if.

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darquegk said: "You really think the end of physical community, and that humankind will retreat into a permanent hermetic existence?

We are too bored, and too horny, for this to really happen.
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Well, schools and businesses would all be online, I believe people will still get paid, and we'll all shop for necessities (food, clothes, etc.) online. That's pretty much all we need in life, and with today's technology, we don't even have to leave our houses to do so. Food delivery services (from restaurants) will also be on the rise, and romantic relationships will blossom on social media, Zoom, FaceTime, etc. Everything else is leisure. People working in the theatre, sports, etc. businesses will have to find new work-from-home jobs. Bored as we may be, this is actually a plausible new way of life. 

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Posted: 4/11/20 at 4:34pm

 I also don't see sports, heavily attended parties, religious services, weddings, funerals, hugging/kissing/sex/high-fiving/fist-bumping, and humans touching other humans ever returning to world culture.

Yep. The entire world will never attend another wedding or bang each other ever again. EVER. 

How is your 4th grade homeschooling going btw?

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This is not a rip or an insult: are you by any chance homeschooled by parents who buy into some New Agey ideas on society and autism?

Your description of the world going forward sounds a lot like the “Aspergia” ideas and imagery that the New Agey parents had floated a lot in the early 2010s.
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Sutton Ross said: "I also don't see sports, heavily attended parties, religious services, weddings, funerals, hugging/kissing/sex/high-fiving/fist-bumping, and humans touching other humans ever returning to world culture.

Yep. The entire world will never attend another wedding or bang each other ever again. EVER.

How is your 4th grade homeschooling going btw?
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Very good, by the way. I'm in a state university and have an extremely high GPA at the moment. Online classes could not get any better. K-12 schools are learning the hard way.

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Awesome. Good luck at Peppa Pig State! 

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Changed the subject line to answer your original question.

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Sutton Ross said: "Awesome. Good luck at Peppa Pig State!"

Everyone insulting me should STOP RIGHT NOW. There is no reason to make fun of other's opinions or berate someone's conditions, education, etc. 

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Sutton Ross said: "Awesome. Good luck at Peppa Pig State!"

LOL

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Jordan Levinson said: "Sutton Ross said: "Awesome. Good luck at Peppa Pig State!"

Everyone insulting me should STOP RIGHT NOW. There is no reason to make fun of other's opinions or berate someone's conditions, education, etc.
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First.  Don't respond to bullies and trolls.

Second.  No, this most likely could not be the end of live theater.  It may take a bit of time to bounce back.  I will likely not want to be too physically close to others after Covid-19, but eventually, yes.   I imagine there are others like me.

 

 

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Jordan Levinson said: "Even before thewhole crisis, I think it was starting to get less and less appeal."

Really curious how Broadway having it's highest attendance rate ever last year led you to this conclusion. 

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Jordan Levinson said: "Bored as we may be, this is actually a plausible new way of life."

Is it, though? (It’s not.) 

 

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Oh dear lord, child.  This isn't the end of the world - not by a long shot. 2-3 years from now, I'm not sure how many REAL differences we are going to see.  Will it take a lot of time to get back to mostly normal?  Probably.  

And unless there are a whole bunch of people I have blocked are picking on you, I see ONE person being out right MEAN to you. 

If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
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Broadway61004 said: "Jordan Levinson said:"Even before thewhole crisis, I think it was starting to get less and less appeal."

Really curious how Broadway having it's highest attendance rate ever last year led you to this conclusion.
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Much of the attendance rate was tourists looking for something to do in NYC, and falling for the "tourist traps" in the Disney shows, long-runners and jukebox musicals, serviceable at best with some exceptions. Most New Yorkers/people from the tristate area are not paying as much cash to see these shows. Broadway is heading off the rails and the gap between good money and poor/mediocre art is widening more than ever.

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Yes, people only wanted to waste a few hours, because there is nothing to do in NYC.   Broadway has always survived on tourists, and it's a business - to make money, so you make theater that appeals to many.   ART and Bway were never synonymous.   The idea that is is only about art is a naive one.  Much more ARTISTIC work being done off bway and in regional theater.   That, too, is nothing new.

If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
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Theater it is at least as old as many of the world's many religions and in some cases older. It has survived dark ages, plagues, wars, natural catastrophes, and collapse of world order and civilization. It's not going anywhere.

"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
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dramamama611 said: "Yes, people only wanted to waste a few hours, because there is nothing to do in NYC. Broadway has always survived on tourists, and it's a business - to make money, so you make theater that appeals to many. ART and Bway were never synonymous. The idea that is is only about art is a naive one. Much more ARTISTIC work being done off bway and in regional theater. That, too, is nothing new."

Why not walk around Times Square? You don't HAVE to see a show if you're a tourist. See the bright lights, walk in stores, grab a slice of pizza, etc. That's something to do, and it certainly costs a lot less money than Broadway for tourists. And yes, there is a LOT more to do in NYC, though some locals might not say so.

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Jordan Levinson said: "dramamama611 said: "Yes, people only wanted to waste a few hours, because there is nothing to do in NYC. Broadway has always survived on tourists, and it's a business - to make money, so you make theater that appeals to many. ART and Bway were never synonymous. The idea that is is only about art is a naive one. Much more ARTISTIC work being done off bway and in regional theater. That, too, is nothing new."

Why not walk around Times Square? You don't HAVE to see a show if you're a tourist.See the bright lights, walk in stores, grab a slice of pizza, etc. That's something to do, and it certainly costs a lot less money than Broadway for tourists. And yes, there is a LOT more to do in NYC, though some locals might not say so.
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Have you ever actually been to Times Square?

 

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Kad said: "Jordan Levinson said: "dramamama611 said: "Yes, people only wanted to waste a few hours, because there is nothing to do in NYC. Broadway has always survived on tourists, and it's a business - to make money, so you make theater that appeals to many. ART and Bway were never synonymous. The idea that is is only about art is a naive one. Much more ARTISTIC work being done off bway and in regional theater. That, too, is nothing new."

Why not walk around Times Square? You don't HAVE to see a show if you're a tourist.See the bright lights, walk in stores, grab a slice of pizza, etc. That's something to do, and it certainly costs a lot less money than Broadway for tourists. And yes, there is a LOT more to do in NYC, though some locals might not say so.
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Have you ever actually been to Times Square?


Many times. And if not walking around there, try Fifth Avenue (holiday season especially).