The Irishman

[Mr Roxy]

Does anyone else think The Irishman is way overrated?

We watched it in sections on Netflix . It is overblown and the only decent acting in it is Pacino as,Hoffa. Word is that most of it is totally made up.

Thoughts?

[hork]

I'd say it's somewhat overrated. I liked it but didn't love it. Actually, Pacino's was my least favorite performance. To me he was just Pacino doing Pacino, which was tiresome thirty years ago but which I now find insufferable. Mostly I was just happy to see DeNiro, Pesci and Keitel in a Scorsese movie again.

[Roscoe]

Nope, not overrated in the slightest.  Top five Scorsese for me.  Seeing it in installments on Netflix is absolutely the wrong way to view it.  It needs to be seen from start to finish, doing it any other way is a grave disservice to the material, those little details need to accumulate, the tension needs to build the way it does in the cinema (per Scorsese himself: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vb59z4/scorsese-says-he-never-even-considered-making-the-irishman-a-tv-series. )

The film's low-key storytelling is a shock, sure -- this isn't the cocaine-fuelled lunacy of GOODFELLAS or WOLF OF WALL STREET or the adrenaline rush of RAGING BULL.  It's a calmer cooler sadder movie about an old man in a wheelchair telling us the story of his life, and it takes some apparently random stops along the way (rather like the smoking stops in the road trip the characters go on, how much clearer can Scorsese make it?) but it pays off.  Maybe not in the traditional mass shoot-out gangster film way, of course...

Not everybody's cup of tea, clearly.  I've seen it twice and will happily give it another go.   

Overrated?  That's PARASITE.  Not THE IRISHMAN.

[broadway86]

Roscoe said: "Overrated? That's PARASITE. Not THE IRISHMAN."

I was 100% with you until that.

[Kristie-K2]

Roscoe is one of the better critics.....I know that if he likes a movie or a play then usually I will like it to........Loved The Irishman.....Pesci was wonderful

[Jordan Catalano]

The film is a masterpiece and an absolute career highlight for Scorsese, Pacino and especially Pesci and it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if all 3 of them (deservedly) win Oscars for it.

[Roscoe]

Pesci might pick up a second Oscar.  The film will not pick up any other Oscars.

We'll see, of course.  I'm personally expecting PARASITE to pick up a lot.  It's just exactly dull enough to do it.

[Mister Matt]

It couldn't possibly be more overrated than The Departed.  It was sad to see the Academy pressured into tossing Scorsese a bone for that one.

[GeorgeandDot]

Thought it was ok on a 1st watch. Thought it was phenomenal on a second watch.

Parasite is a masterpiece. I will take no Parasite slander.

[hork]

Parasite is okay.

[SweetLips22]

I've tried 4 times and each time going just a little bit further.

It's more quiet and reflective over guns blazing but I expected bodies to fall like a dropped packet of M&Ms.

Maybe viewing 5 will turn me around but the Netflix '6 ? ' has more body counts and destruction than a normal night out in LA and definitely a script that allows humour over intelligence.

[Islander_fan]

I saw it a couple of times since I worked it when it was at The Belasco. I like it and it was very well done. 

Now, I do think it's worthy of the acclaim it's getting. And, I feel that out of all the Netflix movies nominated for best picture, this one deserves it. However, I know that there are many in the Academy that are outspoke critics against Netflix (most notable would be Stephen Spielberg) and how they operate. Little time in theaters, just enough to qualify to be nominated and then available to stream. That said, could the anti Netflix mindset get in the way of it winning Best Picture as oppose to a nomination only?   

[Jordan Catalano]

I think “Marriage Story” is equally deserving of a Best Picture nomination.

[hork]

Agreed. Marriage Story is fantastic.

[Roscoe]

And having seen THE IRISHMAN for a third time, I can say that it is more egregiously under-rated than over-rated.  This is a masterpiece, folks.  A group of some of America's greatest film-making artists getting together and creating a grand sprawling canvas filled to overflowing with detail that has to be seen more than once to be really caught fully.

Overrated?  Nonsense.  That's PARASITE and, my God, that inane ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD.