Jordan Fisher—DEH- Page 3

[joevitus]

Posted: 12/3/19 at 4:02pm

bdn223 said: "joevitus said: "bdn223 said: "Yes, Evan is arguably one of the most difficult roles written for the Broadway stage"

Do you meanthisin terms of vocal requirements, acting or both?

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Both, in terms of acting, Evan is a horrible self centered person, and somehow has to make the audience like and sympathize with him. He's literally the antagonist of the musical. In terms of vocal....doesn't it really need to be explained?"

I think you mean "does it really need to be explained?" I only listened to the whole score once--didn't care for it, but it is pretty high up on the register, isn't it? I disagree about Evan being a horrible, self-centered person, though. I think an empathetic audience will like and sympathize with him, but that doesn't mean the actor can just coast--obviously, he has to play the role in a way that the audience grasps who Evan is. 

[sparksatmidnight]

Posted: 12/3/19 at 5:49pm

This is Dear Evan Hansen. If the producers wanted to stunt cast, they could have gotten a much, much bigger name if they wanted to. There's no reason to call Jordan Fisher stunt casting.

InTheBathroom1 said: "I like Jordan but he feels too old and too cool for the role. Or is that just me?"

I mean, acting, have you heard of it? Ben Platt looks nowhere as young as Jordan Fisher and still pulled out the role so well he won a Tony.

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 12/3/19 at 7:27pm

The only way I'd really consider this "stunt casting" is that he's in the sequel to that Netflix movie To All The Boys I've Loved Before during his run. Otherwise, this is a guy that has proven his musical theatre chops, whether it be on television, or in Hamilton - and you saying Hamilton stunt casts?

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/3/19 at 8:51pm

everythingtaboo said: "The only way I'd really consider this "stunt casting" is that he's in the sequel to that Netflix movie To All The Boys I've Loved Before during his run.Otherwise, this is a guy that has proven his musical theatre chops, whether it be on television, or in Hamilton - and you saying Hamilton stunt casts?"

Absolutely not! Please do not try to put words in my mouth. 

[Phillytheatreguy10]

Posted: 12/3/19 at 11:26pm

Hamilton was his big break, everything of note that’s happened in his career has happened since that. Hamilton has no reason to stunt cast, especially not for an ensemble role, albeit a named ensemble role.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 12/3/19 at 11:53pm

Phillytheatreguy10 said: "Hamilton was his big break, everything of note that’s happened in his career has happened since that. Hamilton has no reason to stunt cast, especially not for an ensemble role, albeit a named ensemble role. "

When you begin a post with a lie make sure to not continue to lie.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 12/3/19 at 11:55pm

I just love everyone being so quick to call this "not stunt casting" because he's not Lady Gaga. This was def. deliberate. I'm sure if they wanted to find a POC, they could easily find someone who better suits the role. He doesn't read "Evan Hansen" at all. It's kind of a slap in the face to cast someone who is "hot and cool" to play this character in the first place. It's clearly done for a reason, and, no, I don't think he's going to make the box office sky rocket, but they've already announced all of his dates, so clearly they're doing so to appeal to some demographic.

[Phillytheatreguy10]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 12:06am

Sorry, Broadway debut is a better statement. Either way, it wasn’t a lie so much as my own ignorance- which you did nothing to educate me on, so we both lost out- words matter, yours and mine.

[helvizz]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 8:16am

This is in no way stunt casting - star casting, maybe, two can argue about how much star power he has. But he is certainly very capable of doing the role, which could make it star casting, not stunt casting. It's that good ol' discussion about star casting x stunt casting that always comes up in this board whenever someone famous or mildly famous is cast. It happened when Catherine Zeta Jones was cast in A Little Night Music and at pretty much every single time an actor stepped in for the role of Hedwig (even before the production had begun), for example.

In my opinion, this is not star casting either, I don't think he is famous enough to sell tickets, just a somewhat stablished actor. It's not like hordes of people are going to the Music Box just to see him. If we start calling casting anyone with some fanbase 'star casting' (or stunt casting), then the Dear Evan Hansen started doing that a long time ago, because I for one was very excited to see the show again when they cast Lisa Brescia as Evan's mom....

Updated On: 12/4/19 at 08:16 AM

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 11:29am

To the person who messaged me about this thread and then apparently blocked me--what an absolutely cowardly move. That's truly pathetic. 

 

Soemone whose username starts with "via" messaged me saying "oh please just accept it" and I can't send them messages. No better way to convince me of how much of a coward you are. Move on. 

[\_(•_•)_/]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 11:53am

Yet here you are spreading more drama? This isn’t twitter Magictodo. I am so sick of you derailing every single thread on here to play the victim card. YOU need to grow up. We are talking about Jordan Fisher here, not your dms.


Move on.

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 12:15pm

_(•_&bull_/ said: "Yet here you are spreading more drama? This isn’t twitter Magictodo. I am so sick of you derailing every single thread on here to play the victim card. YOU need to grow up. We are talking about Jordan Fisher here, not your dms.


Move on.

….I'm sorry, but when was the last time I brought up anything on twitter? I have moved on from there and have tried to be very careful in not bringing up whatever happens on there. So I have moved on. The block user option on here is a wonderful thing--instead of being unnecessarily attacking me, why don't you move on and block me? Thanks! Leave me alone. 

"

 

[haterobics]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 12:21pm

magictodo123 said: "when was the last time I brought up anything on twitter? I have moved on from there and have tried to be very careful in not bringing up whatever happens on there."

I believe they mean that you are treating this site like Twitter, as far as making it about your tangents and perceived microaggressions?

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 12:28pm

haterobics said: "magictodo123 said: "when was the last time I brought up anything on twitter? I have moved on from there and have tried to be very careful in not bringing up whatever happens on there."

I believe they mean that you are treating this site like Twitter, as far as making it about your tangents and perceived microaggressions?"

If I haven't been contacted by moderators, and been given a warning about my posts, then I don't see why other people can't just block me. I haven't posted anything related to twitter or anything caused by twitter drama in...weeks? I learned my lesson before. If you have a problem with what I post, the block button is right there. Go for it. I seriously don't care. I care more about people being decent to each other. 

[haterobics]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 12:39pm

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 12:44pm

haterobics said: ""

Instead of posting juvenile images like that one, how about we all move on, yes? Good. Thanks. 

[magictodo123]

Posted: 12/4/19 at 3:23pm

haterobics said: ""

I sent you a message! Don't worry, it's nothing bad! 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 1/18/20 at 1:22pm

Was just watching some of the rehearsal clips of the Kennedy Center next to normal and I was thinking Khamary Rose would make a great Evan when Jordan finishes his run.

[GreasedLightning]

Posted: 1/18/20 at 3:54pm

Has anyone heard anything about the alternate schedule once JF begins his run? Wondering if it’s safe to assume they continue with the Wed/Sat matinee alternate schedule or if it will change.

[cfbrrr]

Posted: 1/18/20 at 4:32pm

I realize that most people on this chat board are way too sophisticated to watch the Disney half-hour comedies (like “Austin & Ally“ or “Jessie”), but Jordan Fisher’s recurrent role on “Liv & Maddie” revealed him to be an extraordinarily good actor with plenty of, where called for, sensitivity and charm, in addition to expertly calibrated theatrical timing. He’s far more talented, I think, than either the “Rent”-live or “Grease”-live presentations would lead one to believe.

[seahag2]

Posted: 1/18/20 at 8:19pm

Teen Beach Movie stans make some noise!!! We love Seacat

[MollyJeanneMusic]

Posted: 1/18/20 at 9:54pm

He seems to be really excited about the show and the material online, which is awesome!  I won't be able to see the show with him in it, but I hope they release some B-roll with him in it, like they did for Andrew.

(Also, about the stunt casting thing: in my school, there are maybe two or three kids with whom I can talk about musical theatre.  If anyone from the other 90 or so kids in my grade know who I'm talking about, I consider it stunt casting.  It's not perfect, but it's kind of my litmus test for whether something's truly stunt casting or not.  That said, everyone I talked to knew about Jordan.  In contrast, almost nobody knew who, say, Ciara Renée is, even though she's been in some pretty big TV projects - Legends of Tomorrow, The Flash - even though my theatre friends were extremely excited about her casting.  I'm not sure if he's actually stunt casting or not, but he's pretty darn close.)

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 1/18/20 at 10:40pm

I think it’ll be stunt casting if we see a “Jordan Fisher in Dear Evan Hansen” poster in Times Square.

[JBradshaw]

Posted: 1/18/20 at 10:46pm

cfbrrr said: "I realize that most people on this chat board are way too sophisticated to watch the Disney half-hour comedies (like “Austin & Ally“ or “Jessie&rdquo."

Ever think no they don’t think they’re too sophisticated but they just don’t have kids and the Disney channel programming isn’t on their radar? 

 

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 1/18/20 at 11:00pm

@MollyJeanneMusic - Maybe it is stunt casting. Maybe it’s not. He has bonafide Broadway experience. It’s not like the stunt casting happening over in Mean Girls. I’m not aware enough of now broad his appeal is. I do find the idea of him in this intriguing as I’ve never got to see him perform live, but I told myself after seeing it again (first time with Ben Platt) with Andrew, that I wouldn’t see it again on Broadway. No one is likely to come closer to holding a candle to Platt’s performance, in my book. But I live to be proven wrong. If the reports/reviews are unanimous that Fisher is great as Evan, I may have to reconsider.

As far as measuring whether a show is using stunt casting by whether your classmates know who they are, I know you said it’s not exact, but if Lin Manuel Miranda was cast in a show or Ben Platt, would you consider that stunt casting. Although both have some name recognition, they also both have legitimate reasons to be cast in a show based on their past theatrical experience.
 

Updated On: 1/19/20 at 11:00 PM