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Posted: 11/1/19 at 5:35am

Surely she isn’t considered an actual EGT winner with only the Oscar to win? Didn’t THE COLOUR PURPLE get an Emmy for a brief performance on a TV show and wasn’t the Grammy also for THE COLOUR PURPLE. So Erivo can’t, or shouldn’t, be claiming herself as a EGT winner when she only really has a Tony. 

EDIT: I’ve just read that the principle soloists of TCP were awarded the Grammy so I take back what I said earlier. She definitely has a Grammy and a Tony but I still say she doesn’t have an Emmy. 
 

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 5:45am
But she does.

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 5:58am
Yes, she does. You can't disagree with a FACT. You might not like it, but its true.
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Posted: 11/1/19 at 7:27am

Same as the Grammy, the Emmy goes to featured performers. And I imagine you'd be hard pressed to explain how a performance can earn an award without its performers...

She's an EGT. She won't win the Oscar for Harriet (given the reviews), but she is indeed only one statue away.

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 9:19am

OhHiii said: "She's an EGT. She won't win the Oscar for Harriet (given the reviews), but she is indeed only one statue away."

She actually might, but likely not for acting. She wrote and performed a song for the movie, so she might get the Oscar for that.

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 11:44am

The Emmy for "Outstanding Musical Performance in a Daytime Program" was only created in 2016. The company of The Color Purple were only the second winners of the award. The casts of Dear Evan Hansen and The Band's Visit have subsequently won.

Personally I feel that the category is excessive. I don't at all mean to undermine these three outstanding Broadway companies, but for them to win an award for  simply showing up (in DEH's case, not even in costume) to a studio and perform a three minute number that they're already performing 8 times a week doesn't at all measure up to the accomplishment of working as a director/writer/actor/producer on a television program.

But facts are facts, Cynthia Erivo and Ben Platt are both indeed an Oscar away from technical EGOT status.

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 11:51am

I agree that the Musical Performance in a Daytime category is quite excessive. They are essentially awarding folks Emmys for doing publicity. Because that's what those short performances are for. 

I have a hard time seeing Erivo even getting nominated for Lead Actress for Harriet. The reviews are not great. And there are essentially 4 slots already sewn up in that category: Charlize Theron, Saoirse Ronan, Renee Zellweger, and Scarlett Johansson. Barring some shocking omission, that leaves one slot up for grabs and most pundits have Akwafina and Alfre Woodard battling over it, with a few opting for Lupita Nyong'o. 

If Erivo does get nominated, it will probably be for Song. But since Song may just be the only nomination Harriet receives, winning the category will be an uphill battle.

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 11:53am

It is almost comical that those individual's have television's highest honor for three minutes of performing on a morning show, while other actors that have dedicated sizeable portions their careers to that medium do not have an Emmy. A few to think about:

  • Angela Lansbury
  • Hugh Laurie
  • Phylicia Rashad
  • Katy Sagal
  • Steve Carell
  • Jerry Seinfeld
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Posted: 11/1/19 at 11:59am

52889j said: "The Emmy for "Outstanding Musical Performance in a Daytime Program" was only created in 2016. The company of The Color Purple were only the second winners of the award. The casts of Dear Evan Hansen and The Band's Visit have subsequently won.

Personally I feel that the category is excessive. I don't at all mean to undermine these three outstanding Broadway companies, but for them to win an award for simply showing up (in DEH's case, not even in costume)to a studio and perform a three minute number that they're already performing 8 times a week doesn't at all measure up to the accomplishment of working as a director/writer/actor/producer on a television program.

But facts are facts, Cynthia Erivo and Ben Platt are both indeed an Oscar away from technical EGOT status.
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I agree completely. Especially about performers getting an award just for showing up and doing promotional press that is part of their contract. There is nothing new or special in those appearances that you can’t see on the stage, and that’s what the Tony’s are for. And tv appearances are always lower quality anyway. 

I believe that if this category for the Emmy’s has to exist, it should only consider musical performances that are originally created for tv appearances (Super Bowl halftime shows, the production team behind Billie Eilish’s ‘bad guy’ on SNL), and press performances from ongoing broadway productions should not be eligible. 

It’s also interesting that out of everyone from DEH that got a non-deserving Emmy, it didn’t go to the people that actually wrote the song that they performed - Pasek and Paul. This would have made them EGOTs. 

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 1:23pm

Sadly, Rachel Bay Jones is also an Oscar away from EGOT.

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 1:57pm

east side story said: "It is almost comical that those individual's have television's highest honor for three minutes of performing on a morning show, while other actors that have dedicated sizeable portions their careers to that medium do not have an Emmy. A few to think about:

  • Angela Lansbury
  • Hugh Laurie
  • Phylicia Rashad
  • Katy Sagal
  • Steve Carell
  • Jerry Seinfeld

Seeing Jerry Seinfeld's name on this list reminded me of a joke that circulates periodically in stand up comedy circles.

1st Comic: "People still make such a big deal outta Seinfeld. What's he been doing since Seinfeld ended. Nothing, right. What's he been doing?

2nd Comic: "Trying to figure out how to spend $950 million.

I'm sure Jerry's OK.

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 2:06pm

UncleCharlie said: "

Seeing Jerry Seinfeld's name on this list reminded me of a joke that circulates periodically in stand up comedy circles.

1st Comic: "People still make such abig deal outta Seinfeld. What's he been doingsince Seinfeld ended. Nothing,right. What's he been doing?

2nd Comic: "Tryingto figure out how to spend $950 million.

I'm sure Jerry's OK.
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Except the joke makes no sense!  He's currently doing season 11 of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, he's been touring regularly and doing a monthly residency at The Beacon for years now, he does tons of charity events, etc.  Just sayin'  Cynthia Erivo EGOT

 

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 2:42pm

JSquared2 said: "UncleCharlie said: "

Seeing Jerry Seinfeld's name on this list reminded me of a joke that circulates periodically in stand up comedy circles.

1st Comic: "People still make such abig deal outta Seinfeld. What's he been doingsince Seinfeld ended. Nothing,right. What's he been doing?

2nd Comic: "Tryingto figure out how to spend $950 million.

I'm sure Jerry's OK.
"

Except the joke makes no sense! He's currently doing season 11 ofComedians in Cars Getting Coffee, he's been touring regularly and doing a monthly residency at The Beacon for years now, he does tons of charity events, etc. Just sayin' Cynthia Erivo EGOT


Ugh. When they say nothing, they don't mean literally nothing. They mean nothing that compares to creating and starring for 9 years in one of the most iconic TV series in the history of the medium. It's just a joke in theory being told by a jealous comic. It's not an encyclopedia entry. It was never intended to be analyzed for 100% literal accuracy. Cynthia Erivo EGOT

 

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 2:48pm

Can Patinkin PLEASE present her Oscar category (if heaven forbid she is nominated).

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 3:18pm
Perhaps you are meaning to say “shouldn’t.” Because she very much does have an Emmy... I’d agree with you if you were arguing the former, but just because you don’t agree with the circumstances how she obtained her Emmy doesn’t mean she doesn’t have an Emmy.
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Posted: 11/1/19 at 3:23pm

''Seinfeld'' won the 1993 Emmy for Best Comedy.

Besides being one of the show's stars and co-creators, Jerry Seinfeld was one of its producers (and is listed as such at Emmys.com). So I'm assuming he does have an Emmy. Does anyone have any contradictory proof that he doesn't?

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 3:35pm

Jerry Seinfeld does, in fact, have an Emmy.

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 3:54pm

Tag said: "Can Patinkin PLEASE present her Oscar category (if heaven forbid she is nominated)."

Dave Malloy would be a much better choice x

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 4:11pm

Tag said: "Can Patinkin PLEASE present her Oscar category (if heaven forbid she is nominated)."

Why not Amber Gray and Denee Benton?

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 4:19pm
It would be interesting if Ben does the film adaptation of DEH and wins an Oscar for it, he could get an EGOT for all the same role.

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 4:35pm

MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "I have a hard time seeing Erivo even getting nominated for Lead Actress for Harriet. The reviews are not great. And there are essentially 4 slots already sewn up in that category: Charlize Theron, Saoirse Ronan, Renee Zellweger, and Scarlett Johansson. Barring some shocking omission, that leaves one slot up for grabs and most pundits have Akwafina and Alfre Woodard battling over it, with a few opting for Lupita Nyong'o.

If Erivo does get nominated, it will probably be for Song. But since Song may just be the only nomination Harriet receives, winning the category will be an uphill battle.
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Yeah, it seems the buzz on this has cooled. She’s good in a decent movie but I wonder if the film has enough staying power to carry a relative unknown to a nomination.  

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 5:27pm
Some of you get so worked up about the most unimportant things.
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Posted: 11/1/19 at 5:41pm

carobie said: "It would be interesting if Ben does the film adaptation of DEH and wins an Oscar for it, he could get an EGOT for all the same role.

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I've always thought that an EGOT stature stood for talent & versatility ( doing different things in different mediums). Anybody know how this type of recognition originated?  Who was the first artist to be recognized?

 

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Posted: 11/1/19 at 9:35pm

I suppose when I’m trying to say is that Erivo being only an Oscar away from the EGOT cheapens the whole concept. Isn’t the EGOT supposed to be almost a recognition of a lifetime of work yet Erivo was given the G and T for simply simply turning up to work? I mean I don’t really appreciate it’s importance since I’m Scottish but Americans act like only legends can achieve EGOT status but these days it seems like anyone can. 

Maybe we should stop thinking that the EGOT is a lucrative thing since it’s so easy so achieve now. 

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