In defense of Tootsie

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ModernMillie3
#50In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/24/19 at 9:51pm

I completely agree about Tony, that was incredibly lazy, just giving The Band's Visit every award. He can't sing, and sings for under a minute. I think they just like giving celebrities Tonys. He was very hot at the moment due to Maisel, but it was not deserved in any sense. Joshua deserved the win, as problematic as his show was, he gave everything he had to that role and his singing was next level. 

This year, every performance was incredibly strong. Santino is brilliant in the part, but every man nominated this year was/is as well. 

UncleCharlie
#51In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/24/19 at 10:09pm

ModernMillie3 said: "I completely agree about Tony, that was incredibly lazy, just giving The Band's Visit every award. He can't sing, and sings for under a minute."

Yeah, I don't know how they gave Shalhoub that Tony for "Best Male Singer with the biggest acting role." Oh wait, he actually won the Tony for Best Performance By A Leading Actor in a Musical. Maybe that explains it. Or maybe they just did it cause he's named Tony and they though it would make it easier for the engraver to remember who won or maybe more Tony voters are huge fans of "Wings" than we thought or maybe...

Sorry your fave didn't win. Dems da breaks.

BWAY Baby2
#52In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/24/19 at 10:14pm

Saw it yesterday- ti is a musical comedy- and a fabulous one. I thought it was one of the more entertaining shows I have seen these last few years- I can be very critical of shows- but I thought the storyline, the music, the acting and the choreography- all of it- excellent. I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to see an exceptional musical comedy.

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#53In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/24/19 at 10:28pm

Yeah, I don't know how they gave Shalhoub that Tony for "Best Male Singer with the biggest acting role." Oh wait, he actually won the Tony for Best Performance By A Leading Actor in a Musical. Maybe that explains it. Or maybe they just did it cause he's named Tony and they though it would make it easier for the engraver to remember who won or maybe more Tony voters are huge fans of "Wings" than we thought or maybe...=

Wings? I'm not 800 years old, sorry Champ. Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

 

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#54In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/24/19 at 10:43pm

Just saw the show. It’s hysterically funny. Haven’t laughed that much at a show in a long time. The performances were solid across the board. The problem is the score isn’t strong. The songs don’t do justice to the smart writing. But still, a very fun show and I would definitely recommend it.

UncleCharlie
#55In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/24/19 at 10:43pm

ModernMillie3 said: "Wings? I'm not 800 years old, sorry Champ. Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

That comment doesn't even make any sense. I said Tony voters. I didn't say you. Unless you're trying to tell us you're a Tony Voter. Now that would really be lolzzzzzzzzzzz.

 

jbm2
#56In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/28/19 at 10:24pm

Loved the first act- could have done without the second...

scarlet721
#57In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/29/19 at 10:28pm

I saw this last weekend with Jeff Kready as Michael/Dorothy and enjoyed it more than I expected.  I don't think changing it to a Broadway musical really works, and the on-stage denouement really left me feeling "blah", but the last scene redeemed it a bit for me.

 

ellbellthomps
#58In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 1:41pm

I thought the music was fine. Nothing out of this world, but when I'm bored I'll totally listen to it.

ellbellthomps
#59In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 1:43pm

I am SUPER liberal - probably one of the most liberal people in the world - and out of context this musical seems AWFUL but in context of the show, (as a ciswoman),  I found it kind of empowering. I just saw it a few weeks ago, so maybe they changed some. 

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#60In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 2:32pm

It is wild to me that Tootsie is somehow a divisive show on here. 


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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#61In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 2:43pm

Wayman_Wong said: "''I saw the movie when it first came out. Wouldn't this also be the case with his dressers in the soap opera?''

It's been so long since I've seen the movie, but I thought there was a reference to how Dorothy liked to do her own makeup in private (thereby exposing herself to fewer people). But if you're in a musical, often changing clothes throughout a show, it seems like that kind of deception would be tougher to hide.
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Correct. Michael tells his friend (the Bill Murray character) that Dorothy called the studio and said she had to do her own makeup due to an allergy.

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#62In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 3:47pm

Kad said: "It is wild to me that Tootsie is somehow a divisive show on here."

I completely agree. It's a funny show, a good night out. Everyone seemed to be laughing around me, and just enjoying their evening. I do think that people that were upset by it initially have never/will never see it. 

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Mike Barrett
#63In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 4:53pm

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I also fine the costumes to be great mainly because of how fast Santino can switch from Dorothy to Michael. Not only in looks, but makeup as well. Or it at least seemed like he had makeup on and I was in the 6th row. Really incredible how fast they have to nail that every night. Also speaks to how much work Santino puts into his performance. Pretty demanding role he made look completely natural.

Updated On: 10/30/19 at 04:53 PM

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#64In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 5:04pm

Back on topic, I also fine the costumes to be great mainly because of how fast Santino can switch from Dorothy to Michael. Not only in looks, but makeup as well. Or it at least seemed like he had makeup on and I was in the 6th row. Really incredible how fast they have to nail that every night. Also speaks to how much work Santino puts into his performance. Pretty demanding role he made look completely natural."

I was amazed too. Even though he never removes the shapewear, the way he seamlessly changes from jeans/hoodie to dress, his hair to the wig, male makeup to female is incredible. The thing I noticed the most is that Dorothy always has red nails, and Michael obviously doesn't. It's crazy how fast the people behind the scenes are working every night. Loved this show. 

 

magictodo123
#65In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 6:07pm

ModernMillie3 said: "Back on topic, I also fine the costumes to be great mainly because of how fast Santino can switch from Dorothy to Michael. Not only in looks, but makeup as well. Or it at least seemed like he had makeup on and I was in the 6th row. Really incredible how fast they have to nail that every night. Also speaks to how much work Santino puts into his performance. Pretty demanding role he made look completely natural."

I was amazed too. Even though he never removes the shapewear, the way he seamlessly changes from jeans/hoodie to dress, his hair to the wig, male makeup to female is incredible. The thing I noticed the most is that Dorothy always has red nails, and Michael obviously doesn't. It's crazy how fast the people behind the scenes are working every night. Loved this show.


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I also find myself looking at the actors nails. Whenever they have nails that are painted and then have to be in another scene where they're not, it astounds me how fast they can change that. I can not for the life of me remember which show it was, but in one scene an actor had polish on their nails, ten seconds off-stage, then they reappear with the polish gone and I was amazed. 

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dramamama611
#66In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 6:19pm

So again, I said NOTHING offensive, AT ALL, and my post get's poofed, even though it broke no rules.   

 

Sigh.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

Jarethan
#67In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 7:01pm

magictodo123 said: "ModernMillie3 said: "Back on topic, I also fine the costumes to be great mainly because of how fast Santino can switch from Dorothy to Michael. Not only in looks, but makeup as well. Or it at least seemed like he had makeup on and I was in the 6th row. Really incredible how fast they have to nail that every night. Also speaks to how much work Santino puts into his performance. Pretty demanding role he made look completely natural."

I was amazed too. Even though he never removes the shapewear, the way he seamlessly changes from jeans/hoodie to dress, his hair to the wig, male makeup to female is incredible. The thing I noticed the most is that Dorothy always has red nails, and Michael obviously doesn't. It's crazy how fast the people behind the scenes are working every night. Loved this show.


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I also find myself looking at the actors nails. Whenever they have nails that are painted and then have to be in another scene where they're not, it astounds me how fast they can change that. I can not for the life of me remember which show it was, but in one scene an actor had polish on their nails, ten seconds off-stage, then they reappear with the polish gone and I was amazed.
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Stick-ons.

 

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#68In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/30/19 at 9:48pm

Jarethan,

Yes, women refer to them as press on nails. I think most people are aware that he doesn't have a manicure done every 15 minutes In defense of Tootsie  What I (and Mike perhaps) were referring to was how fast and seamless everything is, all the way down to Dorothy's nails. 

Updated On: 10/30/19 at 09:48 PM

SouthernCakes
#69In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/31/19 at 1:33am

Also the makeup is a mask. Same was used for Priscilla. So Santino isn’t doing much of anything but a costume change.

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Mike Barrett
#70In defense of Tootsie
Posted: 10/31/19 at 9:00am

Whether they painted on, slapped on, or a mask, its all done incredibly seamlessly and quickly to make Dorothy incredibly well put together.  Top end Broadway stuff right here.