The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
#1The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/18/19 at 8:14pm
https://twitter.com/ltmusical/status/1184953692006633474?s=21
I was scrolling through twitter, and could not believe my eyes when I saw this!
VotePeron
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/2/13
#2The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/18/19 at 8:44pmThey’re not going after critics. There’s already been a thread on this.
Theater3232
Featured Actor Joined: 10/16/10
#4The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/18/19 at 9:09pm
It's not just the critics who hated this show - it's the audiences too. Rows and rows of empty seats after intermission. People saying "I never leave a show at intermission, but this is the exception."
They have nobody to blame for themselves for this complete misfire of a show. Worst I've seen on Broadway in the entire decade. Hopefully they post a closing notice on Monday once the new Grosses come out; those Grosses aren't going to suddenly rise from the bottom of the barrel.
#5The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/18/19 at 9:17pm
Theater3232 said: "It's not just the critics who hated this show - it's the audiences too. Rows and rows of empty seats after intermission. People saying "I never leave a show at intermission, but this is the exception."
They have nobody to blame for themselves for this complete misfire of a show. Worst I've seen on Broadway in the entire decade. Hopefully they post a closing notice on Monday once the new Grosses come out; those Grosses aren't going to suddenly rise from the bottom of the barrel."
It takes a truly special and unique kind of pettiness to "hope" for people to lose their jobs, no matter how much of a misfire the show's transfer to Broadway has been (and it was ill-timed at the very least given the amount of work needed on staging and the book).
#6The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/18/19 at 9:18pm
Did that thread about the tweet get deleted? I understand the "scrappy" attitude of their Twitter account, but that tweet was just bizarre and it's still on their account, and they seem to stand by it.
"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008
carnzee
Broadway Star Joined: 9/2/11
#7The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/18/19 at 9:31pmRight, I don't understand why the mods would delete a thread on a tweet that is still up on the show's official account.
ModernMillie3
Broadway Star Joined: 9/23/13
#8The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/18/19 at 10:40pm
Of course it was deleted, just like any interesting thread lately.
SouthernCakes
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/19
#9The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/18/19 at 10:49pmFascinating. But Hey it’s not my money!
UncleCharlie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
#10The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/18/19 at 10:50pm
You've been told. This is a happy talk only zone.
LightsOut90
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/2/14
#11The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/19/19 at 5:22am
it was absolutely an attack on the critics and a tacky one at that
#12The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/19/19 at 7:42am
As Terrence McNally once wrote in It’s Only A Play:
Reviews are killing the theatre!
Good ones aren’t.
sparksatmidnight
Leading Actor Joined: 1/26/19
#13The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/19/19 at 7:58amThat's why I moved to reddit for most of my theatre discussions. No deleted threads for juicy subjects.
#14The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/19/19 at 11:22am
A tacky and juvenile move by the show which is reflective of the overall quality of the show in general.
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
Bwayfan292
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/19/17
#15The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/19/19 at 2:01pm@ mods, can we get an explanation as to why the last thread was deleted? From what I could tell none of it broke the rules, and the tweet was still up (meaning the production stands by what they tweeted out).
"Why was my post about my post being deleted, deleted, causing my account to be banned from posting" - The Lion Roars 2k18
VintageSnarker
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/30/15
#16The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/19/19 at 3:54pm
Am I missing something? Doesn't Percy Jackson center the story on the experience of a cis het white boy? Does it really get points because it's not about a middle-aged man having a crisis over his adult life choices? Because there are plenty of shows, movies, etc. about teenage boys having a crisis over their coming of age life choices.
#17The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/19/19 at 10:01pm
VintageSnarker said: "Am I missing something? Doesn't Percy Jackson center the story on the experience of a cis het white boy? Does it really get points because it's not about a middle-aged man having a crisis over his adult life choices? Because there are plenty of shows, movies, etc. about teenage boys having a crisis over their coming of age life choices."
It's complicated by the fact Chris McCarrell is white, but the source material (ie the books) and portrayal onstage in the form of Jalynn Steele as Sally Jackson (Percy's mother) have Percy as being biracial and coming out of a home with domestic violence (the book is a little more detailed than the one scene we get of stepfather Gabe in the musical). So it's not quite the same (and while Percy is depicted as cis, I don't believe Riordan has ever directly given Percy a specific orientation unless it's in a book I've yet to read) as being just another story in the same vein (ie, DEH).
#18The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/19/19 at 11:33pmIs it me, or does “cis het” sound like a derogatory term? To me it seems like calling someone a “homo.” I’m not a fan, especially since we “cis het” males are usually not in positions of power when it comes to musical theater - quite the opposite, actually. And I don’t think The New York Times has had a straight male theater critic since Frank Rich left in the 1990’s. It’s like...not even accurate whining.
Alex Kulak2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/11/16
#19The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/20/19 at 12:38am
I just realized Jesse Green (the NYT critic who panned Lightning Thief) is openly gay. Hoo boy, that was a bit of an oversight.
imissthemusic2
Swing Joined: 9/21/19
#20The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/20/19 at 1:14am
The Distinctive Baritone said: "Is it me, or does “cis het” sound like a derogatory term? To me it seems like calling someone a “homo.” I’m not a fan, especially since we “cis het” males are usually not in positions of power when it comes to musical theater - quite the opposite, actually. And I don’t think The New York Times has had a straight male theater critic since Frank Rich left in the 1990’s. It’s like...not even accurate whining."
While I understand where you're coming from, please don't try and compare an actual gay slur with a history of oppression with a shorthand phrase used for the group of people who are historically the oppressors of gay people, please.
Also, please check out actual demographics re: who is in a position of power/majority in the theatre. I think you'll find your claim to be inaccurate.
Not saying I necessarily agree with what the LT twitter did, but like, let's not try and imply that there's any sort of systematic oppression against straight, white men in the theatre, yeah?
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#21The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/20/19 at 4:45am
NVM, I figured it out.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Updated On: 10/20/19 at 04:45 AM
#22The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/20/19 at 9:15am
imissthemusic2 said: "The Distinctive Baritone said: "Is it me, or does “cis het” sound like a derogatory term? To me it seems like calling someone a “homo.” I’m not a fan, especially since we “cis het” males are usually not in positions of power when it comes to musical theater - quite the opposite, actually. And I don’t think The New York Times has had a straight male theater critic since Frank Rich left in the 1990’s. It’s like...not even accurate whining."
While I understand where you're coming from, please don't try and compare an actual gay slur with a history of oppression with a shorthand phrase used for the group of people who are historically the oppressors of gay people, please.
Also, please check out actual demographics re: who is in aposition of power/majority in the theatre. I think you'll find your claim to be inaccurate.
Not saying I necessarily agree with what the LT twitter did, but like, let's not try and imply that there's any sort of systematic oppressionagainst straight, white men in the theatre, yeah?"
That’s not what I was implying. But a slur is a slur, even if it’s towards straight white men. And as someone who has been in show business for 14 years now, trust me: when it comes to musical theatre, 75% of male directors, music directors, choreographers, casting directors, critics - the people who make the big decisions - are gay. I’m all about taking down the patriarchy, but let’s keep the facts straight and not insult the allys.
magictodo123
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/18/19
#23The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/20/19 at 9:57am
Do you really think they'll post a closing notice tomorrow?
#24The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/20/19 at 10:05am
@baritone, sorry to break the news to you but the "big decisions" are made by producers, and the vast majority of them are not gay men. As to the rest, there is obviously a high proportion but not 75%. And what you have said about "cis het" misapprehends the nature of slurs. The term requires intent, and in this case there is none.
#25The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter
Posted: 10/20/19 at 11:05amHogan, I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree here. I don’t like the term. There’s really nothing more I can say.
