The Lightning Thief goes after critics on twitter

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https://twitter.com/ltmusical/status/1184953692006633474?s=21

I was scrolling through twitter, and could not believe my eyes when I saw this!

[VotePeron]

They’re not going after critics. There’s already been a thread on this.

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Please link it!

[Theater3232]

It's not just the critics who hated this show - it's the audiences too.  Rows and rows of empty seats after intermission.  People saying "I never leave a show at intermission, but this is the exception." 

They have nobody to blame for themselves for this complete misfire of a show. Worst I've seen on Broadway in the entire decade. Hopefully they post a closing notice on Monday once the new Grosses come out; those Grosses aren't going to suddenly rise from the bottom of the barrel.

[msmp]

Theater3232 said: "It's not just the critics who hated this show - it's the audiences too. Rows and rows of empty seats after intermission. People saying "I never leave a show at intermission, but this is the exception."

They have nobody to blame for themselves for this complete misfire of a show. Worst I've seen on Broadway in the entire decade. Hopefully they post a closing notice on Monday once the new Grosses come out; those Grosses aren't going to suddenly rise from the bottom of the barrel."

It takes a truly special and unique kind of pettiness to "hope" for people to lose their jobs, no matter how much of a misfire the show's transfer to Broadway has been (and it was ill-timed at the very least given the amount of work needed on staging and the book).

[everythingtaboo]

Did that thread about the tweet get deleted? I understand the "scrappy" attitude of their Twitter account, but that tweet was just bizarre and it's still on their account, and they seem to stand by it. 

[carnzee]

Right, I don't understand why the mods would delete a thread on a tweet that is still up on the show's official account.

[ModernMillie3]

Of course it was deleted, just like any interesting thread lately. 

[SouthernCakes]

Fascinating. But Hey it’s not my money!

[UncleCharlie]

You've been told. This is a happy talk only zone.

[LightsOut90]

it was absolutely an attack on the critics and a tacky one at that

[EthelMae]

As Terrence McNally once wrote in It’s Only A Play:

Reviews are killing the theatre!

Good ones aren’t.

[sparksatmidnight]

That's why I moved to reddit for most of my theatre discussions. No deleted threads for juicy subjects.

[bwayphreak234]

A tacky and juvenile move by the show which is reflective of the overall quality of the show in general.

[Bwayfan292]

@ mods, can we get an explanation as to why the last thread was deleted? From what I could tell none of it broke the rules, and the tweet was still up (meaning the production stands by what they tweeted out).

[VintageSnarker]

Am I missing something? Doesn't Percy Jackson center the story on the experience of a cis het white boy? Does it really get points because it's not about a middle-aged man having a crisis over his adult life choices? Because there are plenty of shows, movies, etc. about teenage boys having a crisis over their coming of age life choices. 

[msmp]

VintageSnarker said: "Am I missing something? Doesn't Percy Jackson center the story on the experience of a cis het white boy? Does it really get points because it's not about a middle-aged man having a crisis over his adult life choices? Because there are plenty of shows, movies, etc. about teenage boys having a crisis over their coming of age life choices."

It's complicated by the fact Chris McCarrell is white, but the source material (ie the books) and portrayal onstage in the form of Jalynn Steele as Sally Jackson (Percy's mother) have Percy as being biracial and coming out of a home with domestic violence (the book is a little more detailed than the one scene we get of stepfather Gabe in the musical). So it's not quite the same (and while Percy is depicted as cis, I don't believe Riordan has ever directly given Percy a specific orientation unless it's in a book I've yet to read) as being just another story in the same vein (ie, DEH).

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Is it me, or does “cis het” sound like a derogatory term? To me it seems like calling someone a “homo.” I’m not a fan, especially since we “cis het” males are usually not in positions of power when it comes to musical theater - quite the opposite, actually. And I don’t think The New York Times has had a straight male theater critic since Frank Rich left in the 1990’s. It’s like...not even accurate whining.

[Alex Kulak2]

I just realized Jesse Green (the NYT critic who panned Lightning Thief) is openly gay. Hoo boy, that was a bit of an oversight.

[imissthemusic2]

The Distinctive Baritone said: "Is it me, or does “cis het” sound like a derogatory term? To me it seems like calling someone a “homo.” I’m not a fan, especially since we “cis het” males are usually not in positions of power when it comes to musical theater - quite the opposite, actually. And I don’t think The New York Times has had a straight male theater critic since Frank Rich left in the 1990’s. It’s like...not even accurate whining."

While I understand where you're coming from, please don't try and compare an actual gay slur with a history of oppression with a shorthand phrase used for the group of people who are historically the oppressors of gay people, please. 

Also, please check out actual demographics re: who is in a position of power/majority in the theatre. I think you'll find your claim to be inaccurate. 

Not saying I necessarily agree with what the LT twitter did, but like, let's not try and imply that there's any sort of systematic oppression against straight, white men in the theatre, yeah? 

[dramamama611]

NVM, I figured  it out.

[The Distinctive Baritone]

imissthemusic2 said: "The Distinctive Baritone said: "Is it me, or does “cis het” sound like a derogatory term? To me it seems like calling someone a “homo.” I’m not a fan, especially since we “cis het” males are usually not in positions of power when it comes to musical theater - quite the opposite, actually. And I don’t think The New York Times has had a straight male theater critic since Frank Rich left in the 1990’s. It’s like...not even accurate whining."

While I understand where you're coming from, please don't try and compare an actual gay slur with a history of oppression with a shorthand phrase used for the group of people who are historically the oppressors of gay people, please.

Also, please check out actual demographics re: who is in aposition of power/majority in the theatre. I think you'll find your claim to be inaccurate.

Not saying I necessarily agree with what the LT twitter did, but like, let's not try and imply that there's any sort of systematic oppressionagainst straight, white men in the theatre, yeah?"


That’s not what I was implying. But a slur is a slur, even if it’s towards straight white men. And as someone who has been in show business for 14 years now, trust me: when it comes to musical theatre, 75% of male directors, music directors, choreographers, casting directors, critics - the people who make the big decisions - are gay. I’m all about taking down the patriarchy, but let’s keep the facts straight and not insult the allys. 

[magictodo123]

Do you really think they'll post a closing notice tomorrow?

[HogansHero]

@baritone, sorry to break the news to you but the "big decisions" are made by producers, and the vast majority of them are not gay men. As to the rest, there is obviously a high proportion but not 75%. And what you have said about "cis het" misapprehends the nature of slurs. The term requires intent, and in this case there is none.

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Hogan, I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree here. I don’t like the term. There’s really nothing more I can say.