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"If I could leave 'Sunset' tomorrow, I would" - Glenn Close (April, 1995) |
Posted: 9/11/19 at 9:39pm
Reading that, she really dissed her understudy. She should have kept her out of it and focused only on ALW.
Posted: 9/11/19 at 10:22pm
ArtMan said: "Reading that, she really dissed her understudy. She should have kept her out of it and focused only on ALW."
I don't know if she could focus on ALW without mentioning Mason, as his praise for Mason is what really stoked the fire in her. I think she wanted to make it clear she - no one else - is Norma Desmond.
Posted: 9/11/19 at 11:43pm


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Posted: 9/11/19 at 11:58pm
Nobody came out looking good.
Close was pushing 50, and like many "aging" actresses she had the right to be worried about where her career might be going, especially after giving up a year+ of film work for Sunset.
ALW's move was an attempt to show the world that Sunset wasn't "just" The Glenn Close Show.
There were so many bad producing things at Sunset by ALW and Edgar Dobie (who was running the American arm of Really Useful Group at the time), it's amazing that the show ended up being as good as it was.
Posted: 9/12/19 at 3:09am
It wasn't that good.
This is just another example of ALW treating people like commodities and his own personal property without consideration for the effect his "wheezes" have on them.
Do you have to be a borderline sociopath to become a mega-player in the performing arts?
Posted: 9/12/19 at 5:18am
Posted: 9/12/19 at 8:44am
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "
ALW's move was an attempt to show the world that Sunset wasn't "just" The Glenn Close Show.
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I agree 100% with you on this. With Close leaving in three months , this was his opportunity to tell the world his musical could stand on it's own, whether Close was in it or not. What better time than taking advantage of the fact that Close was on a two week vacation ? He had to keep selling tickets - which didn't happen as rapidly with Buckley or Paige in the show.


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Posted: 9/12/19 at 9:17am
David10086 said: "I agree 100% with you on this. With Close leaving in three months , this was his opportunity to tell the world his musical could stand on it's own, whether Close was in it or not. What better time than taking advantage of the fact that Close was on a two week vacation ? He had to keep selling tickets - which didn't happen as rapidly with Buckley or Paige in the show."
Right, and as anyone who's ever produced a star-driven musical knows, sales usually tank after that original star leaves. Of course, there are other ways to do that (90% of the world does not give a damn about Broadway grosses), and entertainment attorneys will tell you that if you have a star in your show, you need to be able to recoup before that star's exit date.
Posted: 9/12/19 at 9:35am
ArtMan said: "Reading that, she really dissed her understudy. She should have kept her out of it and focused only on ALW."
Karen Mason was her standby, not her understudy. She only performed when called upon. She wasn’t in the cast in any other role.
Posted: 9/12/19 at 9:41am
BrodyFosse123 said: "ArtMan said: "Reading that, she really dissed her understudy. She should have kept her out of it and focused only on ALW."
Karen Mason was her standby, not her understudy. She only performed when called upon. She wasn’t in the cast in any other role."
I didn't know that. But I still say including her in her comments was wrong. She was there to do a job. Now whether or not "Karen's performance was equal to mine" is really the opinion of the audience members who saw the show the nights she performed.
Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:28pm
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Right, and as anyone who's ever produced a star-driven musical knows, sales usuallytank after that original star leaves. Of course, there are other ways to do that(90% of the world does not give a damn about Broadway grosses), and entertainment attorneys will tell you that if you have a star in your show, you need to be able to recoup before that star's exit date."
So business-wise, it was a well-planned strategic move on ALW /RUGs part to keep the momentum alive for their musical. Both by praising Mason's performance over a two-week period, and by claiming the box office never dipped.
It may not be the most honest or ethical way of doing business, but it's strategic. And he almost got away with it. Then again, this front-page story probably helped sell out the rest of Close's run.
Posted: 9/14/19 at 2:12pm
I completely understand and support her position. It's unclear to me if that was a private letter that was published or one she wrote to a publication. If it is a private letter, then all of what she says is completely justified in confidence, even the dig at Mason. In a private conversation, she has every right to say another performer is not as valuable as her. As an actress in Hollywood, she needs to market herself. If she is seen as the main factor a show is selling, that is very important to have on record. And she was the only thing packing the house at the time. The show quickly folded after she left.
GiantsInTheSky2 said: "Bettyboy72 said: "The show quickly folded after she left."
Not true- Glenn’s last performance wasearly July 1995 and the show closed late March 1997. It ran almost two years after sheleft."
Agree, but it is also true that business was never the same. I have always thought that SB was ALW's best score; nevertheless, it was Close that sold every seat.
Jarethan said: "GiantsInTheSky2 said: "Bettyboy72 said: "The show quickly folded after she left."
Not true- Glenn’s last performance wasearly July 1995 and the show closed late March 1997. It ran almost two years after sheleft."
Agree, but it is also true that business was never the same. I have always thought that SB was ALW's best score; nevertheless, it was Close that sold every seat."
I guess I misspoke but I was referring to the fact that the grosses never bounced back after she left. Glenn was a white hot actress at the time. She was probably taking a pay cut to do the show. She was delivering an electric performance and was selling out many shows a week. Although many people I know consider Buckley as delivering a superior performance that was consistently well sung, she never sold tickets. Andrew was desperate to not let the public know the musical wasn’t the thing packing them in and in the process insulted his star.
Bettyboy72 said: "I completely understand and support her position. It's unclear to me if that was a private letter that was published or one she wrote to a publication. If it is a private letter, then all of what she says is completely justified in confidence, even the dig at Mason. "
It was indeed a private letter. She wrote it the evening of March 30, 1995 when she found out what ALW did - sending false box office receipts to VARIETY, and praising Mason's performance. She was upset when VARIETY got a hold of that private letter and went public with it (so did the NY Daily News).
Remember - this was a few years before the internet happened. Can you imagine if that took place today? Every single site would be exploiting this.
David10086 said: "ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Right, and as anyone who's ever produced a star-driven musical knows, sales usuallytank after that original star leaves. Of course, there are other ways to do that(90% of the world does not give a damn about Broadway grosses), and entertainment attorneys will tell you that if you have a star in your show, you need to be able to recoup before that star's exit date."
So business-wise, it was a well-planned strategic move on ALW /RUGs part to keep the momentum alive for their musical. Both by praising Mason's performance over a two-week period, and by claiming the box office never dipped.
It may not be the most honest or ethical way of doing business, but it's strategic. And he almost got away with it. Then again, this front-page story probably helped sell out the rest of Close's run."
He LIED about the grosses and inflated them and not insignificantly. Which shows you CAN lie about grosses, much as some would have you believe otherwise, and happily I will not see the response that I know is coming :) Thanks to Robert Diamond for the handy-dandy tip.
Exactly- if it had been true that the show was selling as well without Close, he might have had a defence. But it was a lie. Not his first, either.
And then ironically Betty Buckley came in and blew Close off the stage so fast all Hog-eye saw was a flash zooming past him.
I went to the Saturday Matinee the week Glenn came back from vacation...and she was out sick...I saw Karen Mason...who in my opinion was the 2nd best Norma behind Betty Buckley. Not knowing Karen was key to the performance...I could watch the show and not think of her as anyone but Norma....she also had an incredible voice..I will always say Betty gave the best all around performance...but Karen was incredible. Glenn in the original was bat**** crazy from the first entrance...no arc just nuts and overacting. Her singing was always average. Having seen Betty in London prior I had seen how the transition into madness made much more sense. I saw Glenn again in the revival and she was magnificent...she wasn't nuts from the beginning and as I told Betty , she must have watched Betty and learned that the slow decent made much more dramatic sense... I love this show . I also think that the show closed because you first had ..the movie star ..this sold tickets....then the broadway star ..this sold tickets...then you brought over a great british star...no one outside of theater even knew who she was...this didn't sell tickets...I believe they should have brought in another top Star and did the Chicago thing of rotating and it would have ran for years
If I remember correctly, Mason led the first national tour of 'Sunset' which closed early. Was that because she wasn't getting good reviews, and not selling tickets?
Karen Mason did not lead the us tour
it was LInda Balgard . The show really did need name recognition on tour as it was so expensive initially..(using basically the same sets as broadway) the scaled down version with Petula Clark travelled much better and cheaper.. Linda on the recoding I have is not really pleasant to listen to..
“While insisting that Mason deserves support, Close added, ‘She certainly does not deserve lies.’”
So, she really wasn’t dissing Mason’s performance, just being realistic that the portrayal was not equal (which doesn’t necessarily imply “better/worse”, just different.)
Next season on Feud: Webber VS Norma. If only.
David10086 said: "If I remember correctly, Mason led the first national tour of 'Sunset' which closed early. Was that because she wasn't getting good reviews, and not selling tickets?"
The original tour was massively expensive to run due to the cost/time of both the load in and load out. I remember reading at some point that it would need to do a minimum of three weeks in most venues to just cover the costs related to the load in and out, and at that time without a star in the role most venues weren't able to sell it for that long, let alone the up to six weeks they were hoping to be booked for. The producers were assuming that it would generate Phantom/Les Mis levels of hype on the road (those tours could sell a venue for six weeks at that time), but the public interest out on the road just wasn't there.








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Posted: 9/11/19 at 9:28pm