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Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 9/1/19 |


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A great week for everyone's favorite punching bag, TOOTSIE!
Was this the start of Broadway Week?
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "A great week for everyone's favorite punching bag, TOOTSIE!
Was this the start of Broadway Week?"
No, Broadway Week starts today.


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Disney's playing the long game, and FROZEN's numbers are still totally respectable. Remember, everything Disney does is brand expansion. FROZEN The Musical helps merch sales, DVD sales, theme park admissions, etc. And I do think the Broadway grosses will rise when the film sequel comes out.
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Disney's playing the long game, and FROZEN's numbers are still totally respectable. Remember, everything Disney does is brand expansion. FROZEN The Musical helps merch sales, DVD sales, theme park admissions, etc. And I do think the Broadway grosses will rise when the film sequel comes out."
For a normal musical, yes. But compared to Aladdin and Lion King, these are far from respectable. This is Newsie-level, which Frozen should be surpassing with no question.
VotePeron said: "ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Disney's playing the long game, and FROZEN's numbers are still totally respectable. Remember, everything Disney does is brand expansion. FROZEN The Musical helps merch sales, DVD sales, theme park admissions, etc. And I do think the Broadway grosses will rise when the film sequel comes out."
For a normal musical, yes. But compared to Aladdin and Lion King, these are far from respectable. This is Newsie-level, which Frozen should be surpassing with no question."
This has been the central point of every argument about Frozen since its decline really started earlier this year. The original Newsies was a catastrophic flop. The original Frozen was Disney’s highest grossing original film. Frozen has far more fantasy elements and is in a much larger theatre, so whilst it is still profitable, it is not as profitable as Newsies was....
Pose2 said: "AMAZING week for Tootsie. Suck it haters!"
I don't understand this comment. It still had the lowest capacity of any show and the lowest percentage of grosses not to mention one of the lowest ticket prices. Beyond which, it doesn't seem like the discussion here has been about wanting Tootsie to close--it's more that it seems to be doing rather poorly, making a long run seem unlikely. I have zero stakes in this--I thought Tootsie was fine. Didn't love it, didn't hate it. Think the cast is super talented. But from the perspective of how well it's doing at the box office, it seems odd to claim such a middling week as "AMAZING." It's an enormous improvement over last week, but it's still mediocre as far as attendance and grosses go. That's not an attack, it's an observation.
It was a great week for Tootsie. I am so done with all the threads about "Tootsie closing?" and the endless comments of "Must close!" or "ummmm should it close in September"? I am sick of it, and it's improving. It is up from last week, meaning it had a great week. It's not hard to understand.


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Pose2 said: "AMAZING week for Tootsie. Suck it haters!"
I agree, perhaps this will shut them up for an entire week. Here's hoping!
n2nbaby said: "I’m confused why everyone is saying Tootsie had a “great” week. Yes, it’s numbers are up slightly, but their gross potential is still INCREDIBLY low. Better, yes. Good? No."
I was thinking the same
n2nbaby said: "I’m confused why everyone is saying Tootsie had a “great” week. Yes, it’s numbers are up slightly, but their gross potential is still INCREDIBLY low. Better, yes. Good? No."
It's their best week since July, but the basic narrative is unchanged. Discounting limited run productions (Oklahoma) and ones which have already announced a closing date (Beautiful, Waitress) Tootsie is the musical most likely to announce it will close first...
n2nbaby said: "I’m confused why everyone is saying Tootsie had a “great” week. Yes, it’s numbers are up slightly, but their gross potential is still INCREDIBLY low. Better, yes. Good? No."
People were mentioning in the last thread that we shouldn't judge it by that, but that's how I always thought we were judging it? I seriously do not get this board at times.
VotePeron said: "The amount of shows making more money than Frozen must have Disney seeing red. Maybe they shouldn’t have fired the original team, then they’d at least have a good show. "
And they wouldn’t have had a 30 million capitalization cost. I agree with Ermengarde that the sequel will help bring the broadway show back into the limelight, but for how long will that last?
Thesassysam, I’m curious about that too. I’m sure it has and they just didn’t bother sending out a release. Unless Tina is like double dipping in the profits...
Pose2 said: "It was a great week for Tootsie. I am so done withall the threads about "Tootsie closing?" and the endless comments of "Must close!" or "ummmm should it close in September"? I am sick of it, and it's improving. It is up from last week, meaning it had a great week. It's not hard to understand."
matty159 said: "I seriously don’t understand the loathing for Tootsie each week on these gross threads."
The problem seems to be twofold. One, there used to be 6 shows where the weekly grosses seemingly calls into question whether the show is still able to run or in any position to recoup. Now, Tootsie is the only one of those shows left, so for people who want to look at the grosses and predict closing they are down to one easy target.
Second, the people who like Tootsie keep trying to read interpretation of the grosses as a slam against the show or its quality, which of course, has nothing to do with its ability to stay open. Lots of good shows don't make enough money to stay open, but both the haters and the lovers bring their interpretation of the quality of the show into their interpretation of the grosses, each equally misguided, just from different directions.
That said, if one is triggered by people saying their championed show may close, perhaps the weekly grosses thread isn't your thing, since that is ALWAYS the discussion, and once Tootsie announces closing, they will switch gears and go after some other show.












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Posted: 9/3/19 at 3:19pm