Valerie Harper dead at 80

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#1Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/30/19 at 8:55pm

We knew it was coming, especially with the recent news in July of her failing health, but it's still so sad to read Valerie Harper has passed away. She died this morning at 10 am in California, just 8 days after her 80th birthday. 

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#2Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/30/19 at 9:06pm

Still remember her in Story Theatre. ( Foolish Gretl) Wonderful career wonderful life.

G*d bless. R.I.P.

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#3Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/30/19 at 9:07pm

Sad to see both she and Georgia Engle of TMTMS died just four months apart. 

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#4Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/30/19 at 9:18pm

I don't know which is the "official" in memoriam thread, so here's what I posted in the other one:

As I said in another thread awhile ago, Miss Harper was one of the nicest celebrities I have ever met. I was in high school, with a night job ushering at the local theater; she was at the height of her fame, having just left TMTM SHOW and begun her own spinoff, RHODA, but was touring with Paul Sills' STORY THEATRE out of loyalty to the company where she began her professional career.

I was also on the staff of my high school newspaper, and Harper and her then-husband, Richard Schaal, gave me a 2-hour interview for my school paper with its circulation of a thousand or so readers. We talked about everything from her early and then current work with Paul Sills to her TV shows (which I adored).

I expected maybe five to ten minutes of her time, but even when the show started she said, "Oh, we don't have to stop talking. I don't go on for 20 minutes."

The ensuing interview was deemed interesting enough to run almost in full, spreading to every page of that month's edition. It was in far more detail than anything published on that show in the local periodicals.
 

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#5Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/30/19 at 9:29pm

If you weren't around then, she was a sensation as Rhoda Morgenstern on MTM.  She had some of the funniest scenes and lines imaginable but she never went for mugging or cheap laughs.  She was a natural actress who with a turn of the phrase and that very expressive face could bring the house down.  Valerie made Rhoda so much more than a stereotype or stock character, on MTM and the series Rhoda.  The character became iconic thanks in no small part to her ability as an actress to be consistently truthful to who Rhoda was. I hope Valerie remains in our memories because she was one damned good, and damned funny, actress.

Updated On: 8/30/19 at 09:29 PM

Impossible2
#6Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/30/19 at 9:41pm

RIP Rhoda Valerie Harper dead at 80

Still one of my favourite shows ever!

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#7Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/30/19 at 10:09pm

Gaveston,
What a great story and wonderful memory to have!
With the angels, Valerie.

mamaleh
#8Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/30/19 at 10:40pm

So very much enjoyed her funny and touching performance as Tallulah Bankhead in LOOPED about nine years ago on Broadway. I was rooting for her to win a Tony but it did not happen.  I recall an interview she once did about dancing in the chorus of LI'L ABNER, where choreographer Michael Kidd put the cast through their paces, and then some.  She admitted it was tough but was grateful to be whipped into shape that grueling year. And I loved her Rhoda.  Rest in peace, trouper. 

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#9Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/30/19 at 10:45pm

She fought cancer like living hell for 10 years and found time shortly after going into brief remission to be on Dancing With the Stars.

That is what I call a real trooper


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#10Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 12:27am

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#11Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 12:32am

RIP. Loved loved loved her as Rhoda and she seemed like one of the most genuine and down to earth celebrities ever. Such a loss.

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#12Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 8:14am

Back in the mid/ ate 90s, Harper visited my hometown (Providence) for about 2 weeks or so, as she was looking for a theater to premiere her work on Pearl S. Buck. One of my very close friends was the assistant manager at the theater she chose, and was privvy to most of the negotiations going on (and he was a huge fan of hers). She wanted the theater for quite a few months, and she wanted to make some significant changes to the backstage area for some reason (I can't recall why), which she offered to pay. Unfortunately, they couldn't accommodate her with the changes because of the historic preservation society and this being a historic theater (our PHS is very, very, very strict). 

Over the few weeks she was here, he did say negotiations turned 'ugly', as she couldn't understand why  they wouldn't accommodate her and called them unreasonable. She left on 'bad terms', which shocked everyone.  A few months later, she revisited the theater and asked everyone to meet with her for a luncheon the next day at a nearby restaurant. She apologized to everyone about how she behaved during negotiations, and explained she was so passionate about this work, she didn't want anything to get in her way and realized later how unreasonable she was being. She asked everyone to forgive her, and made amends, promising she would be back some day to star in one of their productions if they'd let her. (It never happened, for whatever reason, but they would have wanted her). She also said she most appreciated none of the negotiations or the 'friction'  never made it to the press (everyone kept quiet back then). She didn't want that ruining her production. 

Classy lady.

fbueller
#13Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 8:53am

Wasn’t Valerie also reported to be difficult on the set of her NBC sitcom ‘Valerie’?  That fight got pretty nasty, leading to a major lawsuit.

David10086 said: "Back in the mid/ ate 90s, Harper visited my hometown (Providence) for about 2 weeks or so, as she was looking for a theater to premiere her work on Pearl S. Buck. One of my very close friends was the assistant manager at the theater she chose, and was privvy to most of the negotiations going on (and he was a huge fan of hers). She wanted the theater for quite a few months, and she wanted to make some significant changes to the backstage area for some reason (I can't recall why), which she offered to pay. Unfortunately, they couldn't accommodate her with the changes because of the historic preservation society and this being a historic theater (our PHS is very, very, very strict).

Over the few weeks she was here, he did say negotiations turned 'ugly', as she couldn't understand why they wouldn't accommodate her and called them unreasonable. She left on 'bad terms', which shocked everyone.A few months later, she revisited the theater and asked everyone to meet with her for a luncheon the next day at a nearby restaurant. She apologized to everyone about how she behaved during negotiations, and explained she was so passionate about this work, she didn't want anything to get in her way and realized later how unreasonable she was being. She asked everyone to forgive her, and made amends, promising she would be back some day to star in one of their productions if they'd let her. (It never happened, for whatever reason, but they would have wanted her). She also said she most appreciated none of the negotiations or the 'friction' never made it to the press (everyone kept quiet back then). She didn't want that ruining her production.

Classy lady.
"

 

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#14Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 11:45am

fbueller said: "Wasn’t Valerie also reported to be difficult on the set of her NBC sitcom ‘Valerie’? That fight got pretty nasty, leading to a major lawsuit.

Supposedly, the production company reneged on salary promises they had made to her.  She and her husband sued and won and were awarded around 2 million (I think) and I think she got some percentage of show profits, too.  That indicates that whatever stand she took was warranted. 

As Ed Asner said in his recent tribute to her, 'she had bigger balls than mine" (he meant that respectfully and in admiration of her willingness to stand up for what she believed in).

 

#15Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 3:07pm

Missing her already.

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#16Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 4:31pm

It's funny, I was just thinking of her and how her assement at the start of I, Rhoda was premature (I think it goes "By the time you are reading this, I will probably be dead), and how happy I was she was still around.

Now this.

I liked her a lot. There's a great line in the New York Times obit from the time of the first season of Mary Tyler Moore, which she did in conjunction with giving performances in a Broadway show. The New York Times Magazine ran a piece that included the line "“The sexiest chick on Broadway has a regular job moonlighting as an overweight spinster on television.” Valerie Harper (as with Rhoda) was always beautiful, on the inside and out. She will be missed. Her contribution to comedy and to television is eternal. 

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#17Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 6:19pm

She had such wonderful timing. One of the most memorable best friend characters on television and right up there with Vivian Vance. RIP

Dollypop
#18Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 8:27pm

AADA81 said: "fbueller said: "Wasn’t Valerie also reported to be difficult on the set of her NBC sitcom ‘Valerie’? That fight got pretty nasty, leading to a major lawsuit.

Supposedly, the production companyreneged on salary promises they had made to her. She and her husband sued and won and were awarded around 2 million (I think) and I think she got some percentage of show profits, too. That indicates that whatever stand she took was warranted.

As Ed Asner said in his recent tribute to her, 'she had bigger balls than mine" (he meant that respectfully and in admiration of her willingness to stand up for what she believed in).


 

Friends connected with DWTS weren't too happy with her, either. Basically they felt she had a real chance of winning but she skipped a lot of rehearsal time.

"

 


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Dollypop
#19Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 8:35pm

AADA81 said: "fbueller said: "Wasn’t Valerie also reported to be difficult on the set of her NBC sitcom ‘Valerie’? That fight got pretty nasty, leading to a major lawsuit.

Supposedly, the production companyreneged on salary promises they had made to her. She and her husband sued and won and were awarded around 2 million (I think) and I think she got some percentage of show profits, too. That indicates that whatever stand she took was warranted.

As Ed Asner said in his recent tribute to her, 'she had bigger balls than mine" (he meant that respectfully and in admiration of her willingness to stand up for what she believed in).


 

Friends connected with DWTS weren't too happy with her, either. Basically they felt she had a real chance of winning but she skipped a lot of rehearsal time.

"

 


"Long live God!" (GODSPELL)

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#20Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 8:54pm

Thanks for everything, Ms. Harper.

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#21Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 8/31/19 at 10:35pm

Will Broadway dim the lights for Harper? She did get her start on Broadway,  a success in "Allergist's Wife" and Tony-nominated for "Looped". 

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#22Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 9/1/19 at 11:08am

My money is on a "no" to the light dimming. Charlotte and her cronies won't think  she was 1) closely enough connected to Broadway and 2) not famous enough.

They don't want to "diminish" the tribute. 

Feh.

#23Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 9/1/19 at 3:28pm

We ALL felt as though we knew her... and we were good friends.

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#24Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 9/1/19 at 6:49pm

"Ta Ta For Now,"  Valerie

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Updated On: 9/1/19 at 06:49 PM

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#25Valerie Harper dead at 80
Posted: 9/1/19 at 8:12pm

Dollypop said: "Friends connected with DWTS weren't too happy with her, either. Basically they felt she had a real chance of winning but she skipped a lot of rehearsal time."

 

And did these friends take into consideration that she was living with cancer?


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