The Shining - Ivo Van Hove/Simon Stone

[Impossible2]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 10:13pm

Apparently his next production after West Side Story.

Adapted by Simon Stone (Yerma/Medea) directed by Ivo.

Starting in London, then transferring to Broadway.

Colour me intrigued...

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 10:54pm

I wish he would stick to original works instead of messing with masterpieces. Lazarus is the only production of his I truly liked.

His Crucible was one of the worst things I’ve seen in recent years. I’m very scared about West Side Story.

[DoTheDood]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 11:02pm

Would it be based off Stephen King's book, Stanley Kubrick's film, or both? Either way, I really have a hard time thinking this could be adapted. Would like to be proven wrong though. 

Speaking of Stephen King, has there ever been a Broadway/West End production of his shows? I could see his short stories working well for a spooky one-act, which might work better in the West End. 

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 11:20pm

DoTheDood said: "Would it bebased off Stephen King's book,Stanley Kubrick's film, or both? Either way, I really have a hard time thinking this could be adapted. Would like to be proven wrong though.

Speaking ofStephen King, has there ever been a Broadway/West End production of his shows? I could see his short stories working well for a spooky one-act, which might work better in the West End."

Carrie and Misery

[DoTheDood]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 11:27pm

CT2NYC said: "Carrie and Misery"

Man, I feel dumb for completely forgetting about Carrie, know far enough about that. Just hearing about Misery though, which even just as a thought seems like it would work far better than The Shining. 

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 11:31pm

Surprised Lazarus didn’t end up on Broadway.

[Impossible2]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 11:35pm

DoTheDood said: "CT2NYC said: "CarrieandMisery"

Man, I feel dumb for completely forgetting about Carrie, know far enough about that. Just hearing about Misery though, which even just as a thought seems like it would work far better than The Shining."

Misery was ok.

Great sets.

Bruce Willis was TERRIBLE.

Laurie Metcalf was fantastic though and saved it.

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 11:37pm

Impossible2 said: "DoTheDood said: "CT2NYC said: "CarrieandMisery"

Man, I feel dumb for completely forgetting about Carrie, know far enough about that. Just hearing about Misery though, which even just as a thought seems like it would work far better than The Shining."

Misery was ok.

Great sets.

Bruce Willis was TERRIBLE.

Laurie Metcalf was fantastic though and saved it."

As I recall, didn’t Bruce Willis have to be fed his lines through an earpiece? 

[Impossible2]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 11:41pm

DoTheDood said: "Would it be based off Stephen King's book,Stanley Kubrick's film, or both? Either way, I really have a hard time thinking this could be adapted. Would like to be proven wrong though.
"

Well Stone did a fantastic job with Yerma, Medea and The Wild Duck (which his brilliant film The Daughter is based on) so I have high hopes for a great adaptation.

I imagine he is going back to the book rather than the film.

He is the bigger draw here for me as Ivo although occasionally brilliant, disappoints more than he delights for me.

[Impossible2]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 11:44pm

Miles2Go2 said: "Impossible2 said: "DoTheDood said: "CT2NYC said: "CarrieandMisery"

Man, I feel dumb for completely forgetting about Carrie, know far enough about that. Just hearing about Misery though, which even just as a thought seems like it would work far better than The Shining."

Misery was ok.

Great sets.

Bruce Willis was TERRIBLE.

Laurie Metcalf was fantastic though and saved it."

As I recall, didn’t Bruce Willis have to be fed his lines through an earpiece?"

I saw it pretty late in the run from the front row and don't recall noticing anything other than his terrible acting.

He was competent in one scene (the nail biting looking for the key scene where he wheels himself around the house) but I don't think there was even any dialogue in that scene.

The rest of the time he just laid in the bed so it's possible I suppose.

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 8/10/19 at 11:51pm

How about Ivo Van Hove and Sharon Stone instead.

[DoTheDood]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 12:00am

Impossible2 said: "Misery was ok.

Great sets.

Bruce Willis was TERRIBLE.

Laurie Metcalf was fantastic though and saved it."

I was looking at the previews thread for this and once I read Metcalf, I knew that's the only thing people would care about. Also apparently the script was not super good either? Like it was more or less the movie on stage with one good performer.

[Impossible2]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 12:32am

DoTheDood said: "Impossible2 said: "Misery was ok.

Great sets.

Bruce Willis was TERRIBLE.

Laurie Metcalf was fantastic though and saved it."

I was looking at the previews thread for this and once I readMetcalf, I knew that's the only thing people would care about. Also apparently the script was not super good either? Like it was more or less the movie on stage with one good performer."

It was pretty much exactly the same as the film.

I think there was only one other cast member, the cop.

[JBroadway]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 1:10am

My issue here is that I think Van Hove does his best work when he’s directing material written for the stage (which is why I’m excited about West Side Story), but he has been spending so much of his time and energy recently just churning out adaptations of films and novels. And none of those have really impressed me. So I don’t have high hopes for this one (but I’ll see it).

I enjoyed Misery on Broadway, but I had the advantage of having never seen the film or read the book. So I was watching the events unfold for the first time, and I was on the edge of my seat. Willis was pretty terrible though.

[Impossible2]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 10:38am

JBroadway said: "My issue here is that I think Van Hove does his best work when he’s directing material written for the stage (which is why I’m excited about West Side Story), but he has been spending so much of his time and energy recently just churning out adaptations of films and novels. And none of those have really impressed me. So I don’t have high hopes for this one (but I’ll see it).

I enjoyed Misery on Broadway, but I had the advantage of having never seen the film or read the book. So I was watching the events unfold for the first time, and I was on the edge of my seat. Willis was pretty terrible though."

I actually loved the way Ivo used horror elements in both The Damned and All About Eve, they were the only really interesting moments in both productions. I even found the mostly panned wolf scene in The Crucible very chilling and obviously 'the blood' in Bridge was a phenomenal moment.

Now I think about it though, that 'moment' was pretty much lifted directly from the lift scene in The Shining film.

[SisterGeorge]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 11:36am

I guess we can expect the tricycle scene to start inside the theater, then go out the stage door and videotaped around the block before re-entering and encountering the twins who are still at their makeup tables off to the side of the stage.

I was blown away by "A View from the Bridge," and saw it twice, but less and less impressed with each production that followed:

"The Crucible" -- interesting but not powerful enough
"Network" -- tolerable because of Cranston
"The Damned" -- terribly boring
"All About Eve" -- terribly unnecessary

That said, I already have my WWS tix and can't wait.

[Impossible2]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 12:05pm

SisterGeorge said: "I guess we can expect the tricycle scene to start inside the theater, then go out the stage door and videotaped around the block before re-entering and encountering the twins who are still at their makeup tables off to the side of the stage.

I was blown away by "A View from the Bridge," and saw it twice,but less and less impressed with each production that followed:

"The Crucible" -- interesting but not powerful enough
"Network" -- tolerable because of Cranston
"The Damned" -- terribly boring
"All About Eve" -- terribly unnecessary

That said, I already have my WWS tix and can't wait."

I thought the Crucible was let down by Sophie's performance. The rest of it I actually really enjoyed. She just didn't really nail the heartbreak and terror someone going through such a thing should convey. 

I was VERY disappointed in The Damned, I too thought it was boring and the night I saw it the timings seemed to off on some of the 'big' moments.

All About Eve I had never seen before so I didn't dislike it as much as others did, but it was pretty pedestrian. I thought Gillian was great though, but nowhere near as brilliant as she was in Streetcar.

Unfortunately I missed Network in both cities  

[BroadwayNYC2]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 12:09pm

I loved The Crucible. Very intrigued by this. I am not a fan of The Shining film but I think this might work if handled correctly

[JBroadway]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 12:32pm

SisterGeorge said: "I guess we can expect the tricycle scene to start inside the theater, then go out the stage door and videotaped around the block before re-entering and encountering the twins who are still at their makeup tables off to the side of the stage."

 

Ha! Exactly! I think a lot of people who saw Network hadn't seen a Van Hove production before - which is fine, no judgement - but it was just funny hearing people praise ideas like that, and it's like, he's done this a BUNCH of times. 

 

I was blown away by "A View from the Bridge," and saw it twice,but less and less impressed with each production that followed:

"The Crucible" -- interesting but not powerful enough
"Network" -- tolerable because of Cranston
"The Damned" -- terribly boring
"All About Eve" -- terribly unnecessary

 

I agree about A View From the Bridge, The Damned, and All About Eve. I thought Network some somewhat better, but not amazing. Crucible I liked much more the 2nd time around, but definitely agreed with you after my first visit. I will also add: 

 

--Scenes From a Marriage - interesting structure, but a who-cares plot (adapted from another medium )

--Roman Tragedies - brilliant (originally written for the stage)

--Lazarus - mostly liked (originally written for the stage) 

--Hedda Gabler - loved! one of my favorites (originally written for the stage)

--The Fountainhead - worst Van Hove production of the bunch. Unbearable. (adapted from another medium) 

 

 

 

[Impossible2]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 1:25pm

BroadwayNYC2 said: "I loved The Crucible. Very intrigued by this. I am not a fan of The Shining film but I think this might work if handled correctly"

I really liked it apart from Sophie, I don't get why it gets so much hate. But then I have only ever seen the film version which I also LOVED apart from Ryder's usual awful acting, so I only have that as a reference. I'd never seen the play before.

[SisterGeorge]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 4:48pm

Impossible2 said: "BroadwayNYC2 said: "I loved The Crucible. Very intrigued by this. I am not a fan of The Shining film but I think this might work if handled correctly"

I really liked it apart from Sophie, I don't get why it gets so much hate."

My reaction to The Crucible was not so much hate (in fact I persuaded a number of people to go see it), but disappointment, coming on the heels of "View from the Bridge," which I thought was absolutely masterful, and my belief that "The Crucible" is an extraordinarily powerful and moving play. 

I forgot I also saw "Lazarus," which I liked a lot, and the National Theatre Live broadcast of "Obsession," which I found tedious and silly, but because it was early on in my van Hove eduction and my first time at a NT Live broadcast, I blamed it on the medium rather than the subject.

 

[BJR]

Posted: 8/11/19 at 6:35pm

I think this sounds fantastic.

[BWAY Baby2]

Posted: 8/12/19 at 12:50pm

Count me in as not a fan of Ivo- did not like A View From The Bridge- found the unnecessary drumbeats to heighten suspense- or whatever it was supposed to do- very distracting and completely ineffective- absolutely hated what he did with All About Eve in London- with the unnecessary video additions- which added nothing- and the wooden characterizations- I hope he does not ruin WSS.

 

 

 

 

 

[Impossible2]

Posted: 8/12/19 at 6:21pm

BWAY Baby2 said: "Count me in as not a fan of Ivo- did not like A View From The Bridge- found the unnecessary drumbeats to heighten suspense- or whatever it was supposed to do- very distracting and completely ineffective- absolutely hated what he did with All About Eve in London- with the unnecessary video additions- which added nothing- and the wooden characterizations- I hope he does not ruin WSS.


How could we forget, you tell us in every thread there is about him x






"

 

[JBroadway]

Posted: 8/22/19 at 12:12pm

I’m not sure why but I guess there was an additional (?) press release about this today, and a couple of people started new threads on it. I’m just bumping this thread so people can see the earlier discussion and hopefully continue using this thread