Vegans and Broadway

MannPhan24601
#1Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 8:09pm

A family friend is a animal rights activist/vegan and here's what she had to say on some recent shows. Do vegans on here agree?



She hated CFA from the "kiss the cod" scene and mentions of cheese

Didn't do any research on The Ferryman and couldn't stand the live animals getting abused(Which I get)

Thought Frankie & Johnny was a snooze and got upset from a scene where they were cooking eggs



She LOVED MFL and Tootsie though!

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JBroadway
#2Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 8:20pm

#MentionsOfCheese #CheeseMentioners #StopMentioningCheese2k19 

victoriafr
#3Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 8:28pm

How exactly does your friend enjoy any type of visual entertainment? Ever?

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MattRVA
#4Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 8:28pm

I’m a vegetarian - not a vegan. That said, your family friend’s attitude makes for a tiring way to go through life, when every moment brings opportunities for disappointment and righteous indignation. I am all for treating animals with kindness and compassion, but this individual is unable to enjoy great art because she expects the world to reflect her particular worldview. The world would be a better place with less meat consumption for many reasons - dietary, environmental, etc. - but this individual’s attitude will do little to change anyone’s mind. It will only cause her frustration and cause others to view her as a caricature of an animal rights activist.

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DoTheDood
#5Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 8:39pm

I get not wanting to use animal products to help your body and the planet, but it seem ludicrous to hate a show because everyone isn't vegan. I haven't seen The Ferryman, but that's probably the strongest point she has to not enjoying a show, the rest don't seem to effect the content at all. Like I hate cheese too (not vegan btw, I just don't like it), but I'm not going to hate a show because they mention it, like... how do you enjoy anything outside of what you know? Nothing against vegans themselves, but that way of thinking easily puts people into bubbles and to not think from the get go. 

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leighmiserables
#6Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:00pm

Genuinely curious — in The Ferryman, did she have any objections to the young baby being onstage as well, or just the animals? Because one can make pretty much the same argument for a baby being onstage as I can imagine they could for live animals (inability to consent, not understanding what's happening, exploitation, bright lights causing irritation, etc).

Not saying your friend is wrong/right for disliking the live animals onstage, but I do think it'd be a very interesting discussion if she's indignant about animals being onstage and not human babies (seriously – I'd completely non-sarcastically love to hear her reasoning if that is the case). 

Updated On: 7/2/19 at 09:00 PM

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Fetus
#7Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:04pm

What a sad and miserable attitude to have on life.

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Megsamegatron
#8Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:12pm

In all seriousness, did your friend not have a problem with the scenes of the animals stuck under the planes for 28+ hours in CFA? That seems to be a bigger concern then mentions of “cheese”. 

Also, how did she respond to the horse race scene in MFL? Horse racing is also rather cruel to animals. 

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Pippin
#9Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:18pm

“Cats” must be a nightmare for her.


"I'm an American, Damnit!!! And if it's three things I don't believe in, it's quitting and math."

UncleCharlie
#10Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:25pm

Someone called one of my jokes cheesy at a party and I flew into a Veganistic rage. And why doesn't Frankie and Johnny understand, they don't need to use eggs to achieve the sound effect of a pan sizzling. Bacon works just as well.

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GavestonPS
#11Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:28pm

I've enjoyed plays and musicals about murderers, rapists and cannibals. And this person can't stand mentions of cheese?

I think we should start a petition to ban her from every theater everywhere. 

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Broadway Joe
#12Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:35pm

Did your friend realize that they didn't actually kill the goose? Lol

Out of all the things in the world to get outraged about, seeing a goose and a bunny on a stage where they aren't even harmed for maybe a total of 4-5 minutes is absurd.

AEA AGMA SM
#13Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:42pm

I mean, the term "snowflake" is misused in about 99.9% of the cases I've heard it used in, but I think we've just found that .1%

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haterobics
#14Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 10:01pm

This is why I tell people I eat a plant-based diet. If I say vegan, they'll think I'm like this...

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GavestonPS
#15Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 10:07pm

haterobics said: "This is why I tell people I eat a plant-based diet. If I say vegan, they'll think I'm like this..."

Oh, I eat a plant-based diet, too. But usually I let a cow or pig or chicken process the plant first.

Broadway61004
#16Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 10:07pm

Pippin said: "“Cats” must be a nightmare for her. "

To be fair, Cats is a nightmare for a lot of people.

VintageSnarker
#17Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 10:15pm

JBroadway said: "#MentionsOfCheese #CheeseMentioners #StopMentioningCheese2k19"

Thanks, I needed a laugh today.

Vanilla Ice Cream from She Loves Me would be a nightmare for her. Let alone Food, Glorious, Food from Oliver! Les Poissons from The Little Mermaid. The number of potential triggers is endless. 

AEA AGMA SM
#18Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 10:22pm

Hopefully there's a production of Carrie you can take your friend to in the near future.

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dramamama611
#19Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/2/19 at 11:22pm

Oh dear god. Your friend sounds like a miserable person. How does she get through a day with that delicate sensibility?


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

Zion24
#20Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/3/19 at 12:53am

MannPhan24601 said: "A family friend is a animal rights activist/vegan and here's what she had to say on some recent shows. Do vegans on here agree?

 

She hated CFA from the "kiss the cod" scene and mentions of cheese

Didn't do any research on The Ferryman and couldn't stand the live animals getting abused(Which I get)

Thought Frankie & Johnny was a snooze and got upset from a scene where they were cooking eggs

 

She LOVED MFL and Tootsie though! 
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i find it hard to believe this is real. this sounds more like a thought experiment for a college paper. 

upset by MENTIONS of cheese? ive got lots of vegan friends and if  this is true, this person needs serious help.

AEA AGMA SM
#21Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/3/19 at 1:02am

MannPhan24601 said: "She LOVED MFL and Tootsie though!"

Did you remind her that they are 100% wearing leather and wool in both of those shows?

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adam.peterson44
#22Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/3/19 at 1:06am

Tell your friend to avoid Sweeney Todd/A Little Priest.

 

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binau
#23Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/3/19 at 3:21am

adam.peterson44 said: "Tell your friend to avoid Sweeney Todd/A Little Priest.

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Eating people probably doesn’t bother them, especially if they are the scum of the earth I.e. a straight white male. 


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

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AADA81
#24Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/3/19 at 8:57am

Actually, I saw a vegan version of 'Sweeney Todd' that really worked.  It was called 'Sweeney Todd - The Demon Florist of Fleet Street' where instead of slitting his victims throats he sent them the most God-awful floral arrangements imaginable ("God, That's Bad!"Vegans and Broadway causing them to drop dead in shock so Mrs. Lovett could bury their bodies in Sweeney's garden ("A Little Mulch"Vegans and Broadway as extra fertilizer to keep the flower shop going.

It was all very "tastefully" done.

Updated On: 7/3/19 at 08:57 AM

rjm516
#25Vegans and Broadway
Posted: 7/3/19 at 9:57am

Lol I've been vegan and a theatre reviewer both for decades. She sounds like she's new. She needs to lighten up, and save her outrage to protest if/when any entertainment causes real harm to an animal. Yeah it sucks that some were still used in shows recently like OOTI and Ferryman, but you ask the production about their care, make sure it's up to code, and express your disappointment and disapproval and hope fewer and fewer shows will follow that path. And then move on. But that's for actual animal use. Getting upset by people mentioning other foods is over the top.

 

 

Updated On: 7/3/19 at 09:57 AM