IF the NYT gives another I-don’t-get-it review of BMC, are there any examples from history of shows that were massive fan favorites, did not receive critical acclaim, and ended up winning Best Musical?
Warbucks2 said: "IF the NYT gives another I-don’t-get-itreview of BMC, are there any examples from history of shows that were massive fan favorites, did not receive critical acclaim, and ended up winning Best Musical?
Haven't seen a bootleg yesterday... Id say score, Salazar, and lighting design. Maybe sound as well. Depends on Aint Too Proud for musical but I don't think this one gets in. Will Roland was great but I believe lead actor will be pretty crowded.
This is a really crowded season. But from what I could tell from its off-Broadway run, BMC doesn't really have an excited industry fanbase, or at least not yet. It was not an engagement that got people buzzing, the way, say, Dear Evan Hansen did when it was at 2nd Stage. And as of right now, who knows how BMC will even do on Broadway? It'll be the underdog no matter what.
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CT2NYC said: "Warbucks2 said: "IF the NYT gives another I-don’t-get-itreview of BMC, are there any examples from history of shows that were massive fan favorites, did not receive critical acclaim, and ended up winning Best Musical?
The BMC fanbase falls almost exclusively in that awkward 22-28 age range that is too young to have enough money to buy full price tickets and (usually) too old to have mommy and daddy there to enable them financially.
JSquared2 said: "The BMC fanbase falls almost exclusively in that awkward 22-28 age range that is too young to have enoughmoney to buy full price tickets and (usually) too old to have mommy and daddy there to enable them financially."
Really that's the FAN BASE age 22-28? I thought this was for teens-college years (13-22)? It's about kids-teenagers!
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Robbie2 said: "JSquared2 said: "The BMC fanbase falls almost exclusively in that awkward 22-28 age range that is too young to have enoughmoney to buy full price tickets and (usually) too old to have mommy and daddy there to enable them financially."
Really that's the FAN BASE age 22-28? I thought this was for teens-college years (13-22)? It's about kids-teenagers!"
I don't think it is accurate to say the fan base is 22-28.
thealtoslament said: "Warbucks2 said: "Robbie2 said: "Really that's the FAN BASE age 22-28? I thought this was for teens-college years (13-22)? It's about kids-teenagers!"
I don't think it is accurate to say the fan base is 22-28."
I'd say the fanbase is between 13-25. I know a lot of people my age (early 20s) who really adore it, but not so many older than us."
I think there is definitely a chunk of late 20s/early 30s fans who have been following Joe Iconis for a long time and are excited for his Broadway debut but do agree the demographic for this show specifically trends younger.
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In a better year for musicals....sorry, not many. I mean it has 0 sophistication. Not that musicals have to have it, but to be a hit on Broadway it needs some. This is for kids. It literally plays like a project that a bunch of high school students wrote in their drama class. The cast is talented, but there is no Tony worthy performance happening here.
standingovation79 said: "In a better year for musicals....sorry, not many. I mean it has 0 sophistication. Not that musicals have to have it,but to be a hit on Broadway it needs some. This isfor kids. It literally plays like a project that a bunch of high school students wrote in their drama class.The cast is talented, but there is no Tony worthy performance happening here."
^This...score and possibly Musical but highly doubt that
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Score is probable but not guaranteed, especially with memorable music in plays by Gabriel Kahane (The Waverly Gallery) and Adam Guettel (To Kill a Mockingbird). Tootsie, Hadestown, and The Prom are the only locks in both Musical and Score.
I think the score for Be More Chill is far more memorable than that of The Prom. And even if you don’t like the whole score, you can’t deny that Michael in the Bathroom is a great song.
Kad said: "Hadestown's eligibility for Best Score is not guaranteed right now, considering the bulk of it has existed as an album for almost a decade."
I believe its been updated though hasn't it? Making it once again eligible? Id be shocked if it isn't. Its not like this is a jukebox musical thats been out there for years and the mass public to hear.
InTheBathroom1 said: "I think the score for Be More Chill is far more memorable than that of The Prom. And even if you don’t like the whole score, you can’t deny that Michael in the Bathroom is a great song."
To each their own. I love The Prom, and find it hard to get through any of Be More Chill, including Michael in the Bathroom. Though I agree that that's the best song in the show.
Kad said: "Hadestown's eligibility for Best Score is not guaranteed right now, considering the bulk of it has existed as an album for almost a decade."
Don’t want to come off as snobby. But the bulk hasn’t existed as an album. Around 12 songs are kept from the original album of 2010, and the album from NYTW had about half the show. London has rewrites, including songs, lyrics, and the music itself. Since the show is different from the album, it should be considered for Best Score. The two albums are about an hour or so, and London’s runtime is 2 hours 30 minutes.
I’d be very surprised if Hadestown is deemed ineligible. This is not the first time a stage musical came out of a concept album, and as others have said, it’s been changing and developing since the album came out. I think it would be unfair to say that it’s not an original score since it was written as a folk opera and this will be the final, fully developed version of the score.
If Newsies and Aladdin were somehow 51% original, I’d imagine Hadestown would be eligible.
Updated On: 1/30/19 at 12:50 PM