Once On This Island Tour

[andrewftw]

So, they have announced a tour so long ago, but I haven't seen that many posts about casting thoughts. I hope a lot of the people from the broadway company transitions to the tour!

[LuPita2]

Touring casts are usually completely different casts than the ones on Broadway, but a few people sometimes join. I doubt this will happen with this show, if it does actually tour...

[JSquared2]

IF the show tours, it will be a Networks or Troika tour (probably non-Equity)

[andrewftw]

http://www.playbill.com/article/broadway-revival-of-once-on-this-island-will-launch-a-national-tour

It says here itll tour. But lets hope its an equity tour!

[Clyde15]

andrewftw said: "http://www.playbill.com/article/broadway-revival-of-once-on-this-island-will-launch-a-national-tour

It says here itll tour. But lets hope its an equity tour!"

 

just because tours are announced doesn’t mean they will happen. It’s usally a ploy to get road voters to vote for shows at the Tonys. Take Groundhog Day for example. Or Spongebob. 

 

[LuPita2]

Exactly.  So many shows announce a tour prematurely, and sometimes it just doesn't happen.  

[chrishuyen]

While I know this doesn't mean it's set in stone, it's already listed as part of the 2019 season for the Ahmanson Theatre in LA so I really hope this happens!  Though I'm super curious how they'll stage it, since it'll be a proscenium stage...

What exactly are the implications of an equity vs. non-equity tour and can someone explain what a networks or troika tour is?

[itsjustmejonhotmailcom]

chrishuyen said: "While I know this doesn't mean it's set in stone, it's already listed as part of the 2019 season for the Ahmanson Theatre in LA so I really hope this happens! Though I'm super curious how they'll stage it, since it'll be a proscenium stage...

What exactly are the implications of an equity vs. non-equity tour and can someone explain what a networks or troika tour is?"

Networks and Troika are the two companies that produce the majority of the non-union tours of Broadway shows. I've seen some of their shows that were wonderful and some that were ... questionable. Worth noting that the Ahmanson is a union house so the plan, at least, was for this to be on an AEA contract. But I'm very skeptical that this tour will happen at all.

[andrewftw]

chrishuyen said: "While I know this doesn't mean it's set in stone, it's already listed as part of the 2019 season for the Ahmanson Theatre in LA so I really hope this happens! Though I'm super curious how they'll stage it, since it'll be a proscenium stage...

What exactly are the implications of an equity vs. non-equity tour and can someone explain what a networks or troika tour is?"

Yes! Itll be weird with a proscenium however, the original was in a proscenium

[dramamama611]

According to that article the tour is still 9 months away....so I'm not sure what info there could possibly be.

[Rainah]

Bringing this back. The tour is apparently currently on in Toronto - it says 'direct from broadway' and stresses that it is the broadway revival staging. I can't find any info on the cast at all

[broadwayguy2]

Okay... let's address the Equity versus non-Equity comments above. Let's unpack.

Re:Troika and NETworks. Troika and NETworks are two PRODUCERS of tours, both Equity AND non-Equity tours, and are favorite targets of posters on these boards trying to lambaste the non-Equity touring circuit, who neglect other major companies such as Phoenix, Big League, and Worklight. An actor's union status is not necessarily indicative of their skill.

In regards to the Ahmanson being a Union house, that refers to *crew members and musicians*... and both NETworks and Troika readily employ unionized crew members and musicians, even on non-Union tours. That information is readily available by referencing a program for any particular tour, the IATSE yellow card listings, etc.

[bowtie7]

The Ahmanson Theatre is a a part of the Center Theatre Group in Los Angeles and both this theatre and the Mark Taper Forum operate under a Lort A contract, so it is an union house for actors as well as technicians and musicians. I not sure if dance presentations (like the current Mathew Bourne Cinderella) are Equity or a different union contract. If anyone has more information, I would be curious what happens when/if a SET Equity tour with a lower minimum plays the house. Most of the futures shows currently listed either seem to be self produced or full production contract.

[itsjustmejonhotmailcom]

bowtie7 said: "The Ahmanson Theatre is a a part of the Center Theatre Group in Los Angeles and both this theatre and the Mark Taper Forum operate under a Lort A contract, so it is an union house for actors as well as technicians and musicians. I not sure if dance presentations (like the current Mathew Bourne Cinderella) are Equity or a different union contract. If anyone has more information, I would be curious what happens when/if a SET Equity tour with a lower minimum plays the house. Most of the futures shows currently listed either seem to be self produced or full production contract."

Center Theatre Group is a LORT theater but they have their own agreement, which is very similar to LORT A. Lincoln Center, Roundabout, The Signature and a few others also have individual agreements. For self-produced shows they fall under the LORT agreements, for touring shows they fall under the production contract whether full or SET.

[broadwayguy2]

The non-equity tour Beauty and the Beast, produced by NETworks, played the Ahmanson.
Your AEA assertations are absolutely correct for in house produced works. Touring productions booked into the space are a different matter as far as actors go. The reason crew falls into a different category is that lovals are hired for individual stops.

[CurtainPullDowner]

I hear the staging will be similar to the way it looked on the TONY Awards with seating onstage and (hopefully) sand,

[bowtie7]

wow, I had no idea the Ahmanson ever brought a non-equity tour. Do you remember if Beauty and Beast was a limited engagement or a full subscription show?

[bwayphreak234]

broadwayguy2 said: "The non-equity tour Beauty and the Beast, produced by NETworks, played the Ahmanson.
Your AEA assertations are absolutely correct for in house produced works. Touring productions booked into the space are a different matter as far as actors go. The reason crew falls into a different category is that lovals are hired for individual stops."

I don't remember the non-equity NETworks Beauty and the Beast playing the Ahmanson... I thought it only played the Pantages...

[tjjster]

Yeah, I don't think BatB has ever played the Ahmanson. Forgive me if I'm mistaken.

 

 

[theatreguy12]

It played at the old LA Shubert Theater in its first tour in ‘95

[tjjster]

I miss the Shubert. I think the last show I saw there was the Kiss Me Kate tour with Rachel York.

[all_that_jazz]

Rainah said: "Bringing this back. The tour is apparently currently on in Toronto - it says 'direct from broadway' and stresses that it is the broadway revival staging. I can't find any info on the cast at all"

This productoon has nothing to do with the Broadway Production.  Lower Ossington theatre has the habit of cheaply restaging shows with broadway staging and choreography but listing new directors and choreographers.  They are misleading and present cheap rip offs while trying to pass it off as their own.

[Ceej]

Theatre Under the Stars here in Houston just announced their 2019/2020 season last week and ONCE ON THIS ISLAND is part of their season. In their announcement, they specifically state that it is the national tour of the show direct from Broadway. So that would seem to indicate the tour is happening. No idea of Equity/Non-Equity or cast obviously but at least they confirmed the tour.

[tourboi]

all_that_jazz said: "Rainah said: "Bringing this back. The tour is apparently currently on in Toronto - it says 'direct from broadway' and stresses that it is the broadway revival staging. I can't find any info on the cast at all"

This productoon has nothing to do with the Broadway Production. Lower Ossington theatre has the habit of cheaply restaging shows with broadway staging and choreography but listing new directors and choreographers. They are misleading and present cheap rip offs while trying to pass it off as their own."

They also market their shows as if they’re of a Broadway or Mirvish caliber, only for patrons to show up to a 99 seat black box. Shady. (To be fair they also use the Randolph which is bigger than their own space, and more downtown.... but never of the same scale as a tour). Do they even pay their actors?

[all_that_jazz]

They also market their shows as if they’re of a Broadway or Mirvish caliber, only for patrons to show up to a 99 seat black box. Shady. (To be fair they also use the Randolph which is bigger than their own space, and more downtown.... but never of the same scale as a tour). Do they even pay their actors?"

In the few shows i saw they never post the produced with permission disclaimer no rights holder so i doubt they pay for rights.  And if u copy step for step choreography then there should be a credit to the original.  On the current ticket site for this it says broadway revival and lists ken davenport producer but looking at the pics totally different staging . they just threw sand on the stage