SIX: THE MUSICAL ON BROADWAY- Page 19

[Scarlet Leigh]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 1:55pm

DAME said: "North America or across the pond? Be specific."

West End. The understudies have BARELY gone on at all in the US so far minus the one covering Parr one or two times and then taking over the Aragon track to the end. The second understudy has only gone on once so far and I'm FAIRLY certain she was put in because it was around her birthday (saw a bunch of birthday wishes on her Instagram around that time) so they gave her a show before the Chicago run ended. The Boleyn actress really didn't NEED a night off.

Meanwhile, as Peron said, with doing so many shows in a week over in London and giving everyone X amount off in that time, it makes it impossible to see the entire original cast. It's at the point where I feel like they should be giving the understudies the same billings as the main actresses because they are ALWAYS on. I mean a performance where 4 of the 6 roles are played by understudies, that would cause a RIOT in New York.

And I think that's the thing that is just baffling me SO much over it. Are West End audiences just THAT forgiving of understudies that they are willing to see a show that is 75% the "b-squad" without whipping out their 'I want to speak to the manager' haircuts? Not to say that any of the understudies are bad or anything but you get a different kind of performance from an actor that has put all their focus into perfecting their one main character then you do a performer that has to split their time and energy between learning 3 or 4 different roles or in the case of the swing, all 6.

[Impossible2]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 2:51pm

Scarlet Leigh said: "DAME said: "North America or across the pond? Be specific."

West End. The understudies have BARELY gone on at all in the US so far minus the one covering Parr one or two times and then taking over the Aragon track to the end. The second understudy has only gone on once so far and I'm FAIRLY certain she was put in because it was around her birthday (saw a bunch of birthday wishes on her Instagram around that time)so they gave her a show before the Chicago run ended. The Boleyn actress really didn't NEED a night off.

Meanwhile, as Peron said, with doing so many shows in a week over in London and giving everyone X amount off in that time, it makes itimpossible to see the entire original cast.It's at the point where I feel like they should be giving the understudies the same billings as the main actresses because they are ALWAYS on. I mean a performance where 4 of the 6 roles are played by understudies, that would cause a RIOT in New York.

And I think that's the thing that is just baffling me SO much over it. Are West End audiences just THAT forgiving of understudies that they are willing to see a show that is 75% the "b-squad" without whipping out their 'I want to speak to the manager' haircuts?Not to say that any of the understudies are bad or anything but you get a different kind of performance from an actor that has put all their focus into perfecting their one main character then you do a performer that has to split their time and energy between learning 3 or 4 different roles or in the case of the swing, all 6."

None of these people are 'stars' and the general public don't know them so they probably don't even notice the difference.

As a fan of the show and the original cast it pisses ME off if people are out or it's understudies and I know I am not getting the originals and in some cases the replacements aren't appropriate or up to the task.

Most people who go are none the wiser as they are probably there on the basis of hype or seeing a single tv performance somewhere 6 months before they go to the show.

There is a cast board up in the lobby for each performance, I imagine if you really want to swap performances you'd be allowed to.

[metropolis10111]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 4:24pm

Scarlet Leigh said: "
And I think that's the thing that is just baffling me SO much over it. Are West End audiences just THAT forgiving of understudies that they are willing to see a show that is 75% the "b-squad" without whipping out their 'I want to speak to the manager' haircuts?Not to say that any of the understudies are bad or anything but you get a different kind of performance from an actor that has put all their focus into perfecting their one main character then you do a performer that has to split their time and energy between learning 3 or 4 different roles or in the case of the swing, all 6."

maybe it's because its just a solid piece of entertainment that isn't reliant on a star. Remember that most of the cast on the album that people are singing along with aren't in the show and no one is complaining about that. I do get what you are saying, but this is a different kind of show I think. People are just overjoyed to be at the show and will support the cast of whoever is on stage because they have fallen for the show and what it means.. Sure there will be a segment that is there for so-n-so but they have been rather smart in making the message of the show stand out over stars. The swings look amazing so why knock them? They work their butts off. One of the swings in London, Grace, is a star in her own right among fans of the show who seek out performances with her in it. It's a show about empowering everyone and the fact that the crowds are leaving happy and coming back again.. .well I'm glad you feel the need to be outraged for us but we are fine thanks

Updated On: 7/31/19 at 04:24 PM

[anislander]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 4:47pm

The queens will be cleaning up after the diner in February.

[Impossible2]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 5:00pm

metropolis10111 said: "Grace, is a star in her own right among fans of the show who seek out performances with her in it. "

[DCS]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 5:06pm

anislander said: "The queens will be cleaning up after the diner in February. "

Hopefully they'll leave a freshly baked pie cut into six slices!

[DAME]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 5:26pm

anislander said: "The queens will be cleaning up after the diner in February."

I thought it was going into the Longacre and not till April?  So much misinformation on these boards.  

[binau]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 5:31pm

"Meanwhile, as Peron said, with doing so many shows in a week over in London and giving everyone X amount off in that time, it makes itimpossible to see the entire original cast.It's at the point where I feel like they should be giving the understudies the same billings as the main actresses because they are ALWAYS on. "

When I saw the show in London recently one of the cast couldn't even dance and sat towards the side of the show for most of it..just bizarre. Reflects a constant observation I have that New York City musical quality is often so much stronger than in London. 

[Impossible2]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 5:33pm

qolbinau said: ""Meanwhile, as Peron said, with doing so many shows in a week over in London and giving everyone X amount off in that time, it makes itimpossible to see the entire original cast.It's at the point where I feel like they should be giving the understudies the same billings as the main actresses because they are ALWAYS on."

When I saw the show in London recently one of the cast couldn't even dance and sat towards the side of the show for most of it..just bizarre. Reflects a constant observation I have that New York City musical quality is often so much stronger than in London."

Grace did that when I saw it last time and she is the 'dance captain'.

I believe her and Courtney both have injuries that haven't been allowed enough time off to heal properly.

[Papi2013]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 5:36pm

Impossible2 said: "qolbinau said: ""Meanwhile, as Peron said, with doing so many shows in a week over in London and giving everyone X amount off in that time, it makes itimpossible to see the entire original cast.It's at the point where I feel like they should be giving the understudies the same billings as the main actresses because they are ALWAYS on."

When I saw the show in London recently one of the cast couldn't even dance and sat towards the side of the show for most of it..just bizarre. Reflects a constant observation I have that New York City musical quality is often so much stronger than in London."

Grace did that when I saw it last time and she is the 'dance captain'.

I believe her and Courtney both have injuries that haven't been allowed enough time off to heal properly."

 

I have always found performances in London to be vocally inferior.  Just my experience every time I see a show there.  It was also my experience after viewing Six  there and in Chicago. 

 

Updated On: 7/31/19 at 05:36 PM

[ibroughtthecat]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 5:37pm

anislander said: "The queens will be cleaning up after the diner in February."

this seems a really coincidental message considering a lot of six fan profiles and alan henry (the initial poster) have been posting an image of a crown against a purple background. one of the understudies in the west end cast says she has no idea what it means but a fan profile said they are "just doing what they were told"

🤔🤔

 

 

[Impossible2]

Posted: 7/31/19 at 5:57pm

Papi2013 said: "Impossible2 said: "qolbinau said: ""Meanwhile, as Peron said, with doing so many shows in a week over in London and giving everyone X amount off in that time, it makes itimpossible to see the entire original cast.It's at the point where I feel like they should be giving the understudies the same billings as the main actresses because they are ALWAYS on."

When I saw the show in London recently one of the cast couldn't even dance and sat towards the side of the show for most of it..just bizarre. Reflects a constant observation I have that New York City musical quality is often so much stronger than in London."

Grace did that when I saw it last time and she is the 'dance captain'.

I believe her and Courtney both have injuries that haven't been allowed enough time off to heal properly."



I have always found performances in London to be vocally inferior. Just my experience every time I see a show there. It was also my experience after viewing Six there and in Chicago.

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It depends on the show I guess, the UK doesn't have the massive talent pool the US does.

I think the girls all sound fine at the show itself, but sound a little off with backing tapes at their tv performances. Apart from Millie (a bit pitchy/screechy) and Grace (who is just taking on too much and doesn't suit all the roles), the rest are pretty good and I think their acting and characterisation is excellent. At the end of the day it's a 'concert' show and as such it's quite loud and you don't really notice they are not 100% on point all the time vocally which a lot of the time is down to the choreography. Though I have seen Grace have a couple of shocking nights, but I don't think was well on her off nights.

I have seen a few clips of the Chicago cast and agree vocally they are much better and have amazing voices, but the fact they don't even attempt an English accent and don't look as good at their characterisations would disappoint me more than a few bing notes. 

At the end of the day it depends on the person I think which you prefer.

I am very much looking forward to seeing the US cast next year tho :) 

[ibroughtthecat]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 11:10am

broadway announcement from the twitter account - bway 2020 at the brooks atkinson in feb

[DAME]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 11:25am

I’m glad the speculation is over. Good theater for it as well.  Can’t wait to see it again.  This time taking niece and nephews .  

[Papi2013]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 11:52am

This will have a good run.  Congrats to all involved.    I knew this would be a huge hit not just because of the fun show.  But taking a look at the lines for Merch after the show makes you realize they are on to something big. 

[Plannietink08]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 11:54am

arsol said: "Scarlet Leigh said: "I had never heard of this musical before they made the announcement of it's return for the limited run a few days ago and I have been very interestedsince. I am fascinated by the wives of Henry the 8th thanks MAINLY in part to being into Renn Faires and my regular faire has been hosted by King Henry the last few seasons (Sidebar: It's been Henry and Katherine of Aragon but we've joked for years that each season he should have a new wife). I don't know if I could picture this, as it looks now, on Broadway. But I could see it being popular off for sure and perhaps developed in time to something bigger and more Broadway worthy.

To those that know it, is it just songs or is there dialogue as well? God I hope there is dialogue, it would be amazing to have these women talking with one another. Sort of an Assassins vibe. Didn't all know one another but they identify with one another."

It got great reviews in the West End and is currently on a UK tour but is due to have another limited West End run next year.Â
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It’s already playing an open-ended run in the West End with a separate tour due to launch later in the year. 

Updated On: 8/1/19 at 11:54 AM

[Papi2013]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 11:57am

""It’s already playing an open-ended run in the West End with a desperate tour due to launch later in the year."

 

Why is it desperate?

[Plannietink08]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 11:58am

Scarlet Leigh said: "DAME said: "North America or across the pond? Be specific."

West End. The understudies have BARELY gone on at all in the US so far minus the one covering Parr one or two times and then taking over the Aragon track to the end. The second understudy has only gone on once so far and I'm FAIRLY certain she was put in because it was around her birthday (saw a bunch of birthday wishes on her Instagram around that time)so they gave her a show before the Chicago run ended. The Boleyn actress really didn't NEED a night off.

Meanwhile, as Peron said, with doing so many shows in a week over in London and giving everyone X amount off in that time, it makes itimpossible to see the entire original cast.It's at the point where I feel like they should be giving the understudies the same billings as the main actresses because they are ALWAYS on. I mean a performance where 4 of the 6 roles are played by understudies, that would cause a RIOT in New York.

And I think that's the thing that is just baffling me SO much over it. Are West End audiences just THAT forgiving of understudies that they are willing to see a show that is 75% the "b-squad" without whipping out their 'I want to speak to the manager' haircuts?Not to say that any of the understudies are bad or anything but you get a different kind of performance from an actor that has put all their focus into perfecting their one main character then you do a performer that has to split their time and energy between learning 3 or 4 different roles or in the case of the swing, all 6."

The show has a strong fandom among theatre fans and the understudies are usually quite popular. People sometimes go just to see an understudy as each actor’s character and costume is totally unique. It’s like a normal show where the understudy is a carbon copy of the principle actors, in SIX you’re seeing a totally different character. 

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 11:59am

What is a "desperate tour" and how does it differ from a "tour"?

[DAME]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 12:03pm

Mattie.. I feel like a proud parent.  I hope they keep their prices down.  I am going to be so broke.

[Papi2013]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 12:13pm

Can't way to see how their PR campaign goes for New York.  And I hope they stick to the two a night schedule on Saturdays as opposed to a matinee.  Evenings are so much better for a concert style show.

[Plannietink08]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 12:16pm

Papi2013 said: """It’s already playing an open-ended run in the West End with a desperate tour due to launch later in the year."



Why is it desperate?"

 

 

Whoops. Meant to say separate - always check before you post!

 

[Papi2013]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 12:20pm

Plannietink08 said: "Papi2013 said: """It’s already playing an open-ended run in the West End with a desperate tour due to launch later in the year."



Why is it desperate?"





Whoops. Meant to say separate - always check before you post!

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haha.  But to name a tour "the desperate tour " for this show is perfect.  Because the queens are all kind of desperate.

[TheSassySam]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 12:21pm

Plannietink08 said: "Papi2013 said: """It’s already playing an open-ended run in the West End with a desperate tour due to launch later in the year."



Why is it desperate?"





Whoops. Meant to say separate - always check before you post!

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Haha, I personally read it as they're desperate to go on tour and make more money.

[DAME]

Posted: 8/1/19 at 12:28pm

If I were doing the performance schedule;  I would do a Wednesday evening thru Sunday evening run.  No Wednesday Matinees and two shows on Saturday night and one matinee on Sunday followed by a evening.