Where do musicals go to die?

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Where do musicals go to die?#1
Posted: 10/28/18 at 4:11pm

I have been frustrated with the lack of information on musicals that just disappear.  

I know many I have seen have hopes of going to broadway at some point, so they don't have cast recordings and can't be licensed... October Sky, Ella Minnow Pea, Sousatzka, Hazel, Harmony, Tiny Dancer,...

Some mysteries that I hope some of you can clear up.

1. From 3hree, Flight of the Lawnchair Man split from Mice and Lavender Girl and is now available for license as a full 2 act.  But, what happened to Mice and Lavender Girl?

2. Taboo, doesn't seem to be available for license.

3. In Transit doesn't seem to be available for license.

4. The Visit doesn't seem to be available for license.

5. The Last Ship doesn't seem to be available for license. (Still touring England, do they have plans for US tour?)

6. Amazing Grace doesn't seem to be available for license.

7. Doctor Zhivago doesn't seem to be available for license.

Just to name a few...

 

 

Updated On: 10/28/18 at 04:11 PM
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Where do musicals go to die?#2
Posted: 10/28/18 at 5:00pm
aren’t most of them usually pretty bad shows anyway?
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Where do musicals go to die?#3
Posted: 10/28/18 at 5:07pm

2) Taboo - Rosie confirmed in May that Boy George holds the rights

5) The Last Ship - there will be a full production staring Sting in Toronto in February/March of next year (the UK/Irish touring version)

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Posted: 10/28/18 at 5:10pm
they take the creative team behind the barn and pull an Old yeller.
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Where do musicals go to die?#5
Posted: 10/28/18 at 5:15pm

The Cort Theatre

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Where do musicals go to die?#6
Posted: 10/28/18 at 5:27pm
Florida.
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Posted: 10/28/18 at 5:32pm

New World Stages

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Posted: 10/28/18 at 5:34pm

everybody knows that musicals are zombies. 

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Where do musicals go to die?#9
Posted: 10/28/18 at 5:56pm

Up into the sky with those dancing clouds from Margaritaville.

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Posted: 10/28/18 at 6:26pm

BroadwayRox3588 said: "The Cort Theatre"

or the marquis

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Where do musicals go to die?#11
Posted: 10/29/18 at 11:44am

Tag: Thanks for the heads up.  Hadn't checked out the Mirvish season.  

I know Boy George's agent will take requests for licensing, but that sounds like only professional theaters will be considered.

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Where do musicals go to die?#12
Posted: 10/29/18 at 11:55am

Apparently, Lavender Girl is available to license through John Bucchino's agent.  It is still a short one-act.

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Posted: 10/29/18 at 12:13pm

Usually there's something preventing the show from being licensed –– an issue with one of the authors/estates, a third-party licensed element (i.e. existing songs), a plan for a major production (tour, London, international), rewrites, etc.

Of your list, THE VISIT surprises me the most. I feel like that could be a good show for a lot of regional theatres to show off a great actress and actor "of a certain age." I would expect to see licensing available in the next 1-2 years for Last Ship, Amazing Grace, and Dr. Zhivago; they've all had post-Broadway productions  or/and rewrites that could have delayed licensing. In Transit will be tough because of the a cappella requirements.

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Where do musicals go to die?#14
Posted: 10/29/18 at 1:20pm

To a Dinner Theater in Florida.

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Where do musicals go to die?#15
Posted: 10/29/18 at 1:25pm
Broadway fan accounts, with the caption “Can we please get a (insert flop) revival soon!”
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Where do musicals go to die?#16
Posted: 10/29/18 at 1:44pm
Sometimes they’re just not ever totally finished. Not all the time, but I think this is the reason we’ve never seen another American Psycho. They might not be finished working on it, Sheik just has 1000 other things happening.
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Where do musicals go to die?#17
Posted: 10/29/18 at 3:59pm

So, a couple updates.

October Sky is apparently bogged down in a court battle.  Universal Pictures thought they bought the rights to the story on all platforms including for a musical stage version. The original author sold the rights again to someone else to make a musical.  Now both are suing to be the only one to bring a musicalization to stage.

Here Lies Love is one I left off my OP list. It apparently is being reconceived for a normal stage at Seattle Rep, with the plans on licensing in the future.

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Where do musicals go to die?#18
Posted: 10/29/18 at 10:37pm

I hope October Sky shows up again. I saw the lab last year and thought it was great

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Where do musicals go to die?#19
Posted: 10/11/19 at 12:24pm

In Transit is now available for licensing through MTI: In Transit Show Page

But who is licensing Here Lies Love?  I search MTI, Tams, Samuel French and RNH, but didn't see it on any of those sites. I presume it still isn't available.  

Updated On: 10/11/19 at 12:24 PM
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Posted: 10/11/19 at 12:28pm
Amazing Grace was at the Bible Museum in DC for awhile. Would imagine it’s available soon? Unless it’s touring again.
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Where do musicals go to die?#21
Posted: 10/11/19 at 1:37pm

BWW poster Smaxie told me once that the "54th Street/George Abbott/Adelphi" Theatre is where old musicals go to die. 

"The 54th Street[theatre] had a rep as. . .where old musicals went to die." -Smaxie
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Where do musicals go to die?#22
Posted: 10/11/19 at 6:16pm
New musicals used to die there as well (e.g., Gantry, Happy Town, many others).
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Where do musicals go to die?#23
Posted: 10/11/19 at 10:51pm

Tag said: "2) Taboo - Rosie confirmed in May that Boy George holds the rights

5) The Last Ship - there will be a full production staring Sting in Toronto in February/March of next year (the UK/Irish touring version)
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I don't know for sure if it's the exact, same production, but Sting and LAST SHIP are part of the Ahmanson's lackluster season in Los Angeles; they will play LA in January and San Francisco through 2/28/20. So maybe that Toronto production begins in March?

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Where do musicals go to die?#24
Posted: 10/12/19 at 6:11pm

I love Doctor Zhivago and even I'm like... who is trying to put on an amateur production of Doctor Zhivago? That score is too vocally demanding for high schoolers not to mention the content and all the stage effects.

Now that you mention it, I am curious about The Visit. 

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Posted: 10/12/19 at 11:24pm

GavestonPS said: "Tag said: "2) Taboo - Rosie confirmed in May that Boy George holds the rights

5) The Last Ship - there will be a full production staring Sting in Toronto in February/March of next year (the UK/Irish touring version)
"

I don't know for sure if it's the exact, same production, but Sting and LAST SHIP are part of the Ahmanson's lackluster season in Los Angeles; they will play LA in January and San Francisco through 2/28/20. So maybe that Toronto production begins in March?
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Actually the last ship played toronto in feb 2019 (this year)