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Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie

Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie

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#1Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 9:46am

Email her at:  cstmartin@broadway.org  or call 212--764--1122.


"Noel [Coward] and I were in Paris once. Adjoining rooms, of course. One night, I felt mischievous, so I knocked on Noel's door, and he asked, 'Who is it?' I lowered my voice and said 'Hotel detective. Have you got a gentleman in your room?' He answered, 'Just a minute, I'll ask him.'" (Beatrice Lillie)

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#2Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 9:49am

Pretty sure any theater that wants to, can.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

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#3Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 10:16am

I'm not sure you're right, but it's a moot point. I think Ms Martin needs to know that the Broadway community is displeased with her edict.

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#4Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 10:39am

Ahrens and Flaherty have posted the following on their FB page:

hey will be dimmed on Wednesday, Sept. 19th at 6:45, at the theaters where she performed.

Gershwin (Theater Hall of Fame)
Nederlander (Pretty Woman - for Jason)
Broadhurst (Enron) digital marquis with her photo
Shoenfeld (Passion)
St. James (Bullets over Broadway)
Hirschfield (Kiss Me Kate or Man of La Mancha)

Possibly the Lyric ( Ragtime).

Information will be updated as warranted.

If you want to add your voice to the campaign to dim the lights at all theaters, use the hashtag #dimforMarin on your social media outlets.

I'll certainly be emailing St. Martin.

Are any of you planning on going to see the lights dimmed? I'll be there. I'd also like to lay a bouquet of sunflowers in her memory, but not sure where the best place for that would be.


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#5Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 11:06am

you folks just get sillier by the day. 

There is no edict. She is not the one who decides. The whole point of the Committee is that the landlords get to decide this, which makes sense since it is their property. The League as a whole (it was never done by fiat) is out of the business of deciding. 

I suspect the reason the Lyric was not included is that ATG is not a part of the cartel.

teresa2
#6Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 11:36am

What about the Vivian Beaumont? She performed in The King and I there. They should also dim the lights. Frankly, i don't care who the ultimate decision maker is regarding dimming the lights. it show a total lack of class and respect on the parts of those that choose to not do it, whether it is Charlotte's decision or some committees. The people that decide need to do the right thing this time as the last few times they have screwed up royally,

zainmax
#7Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 12:20pm

HogansHero said: "you folks just get sillier by the day.

There is no edict. She is not the one who decides. The whole point of the Committee is that the landlords get to decide this, which makes sense since it is their property. The League as a whole (it was never done by fiat) is out of the business of deciding.

I suspect the reason the Lyric was not included is that ATG is not a part of the cartel.
"

Pretty sure that a committee and not St. Martin decides. Also, might want to be careful Hogan about calling it a cartel.

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#8Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 12:28pm

The league can only ask or suggest for theaters to do so, and they likely set the date to make it easier for confirmity.  I GUARANTEE there would be no problem if a theater not already on the "list" dimmed their lights, too


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

JSquared2
#9Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 12:30pm

Patti LuPone FANatic said: "Email her at: cstmartin@broadway.org or call 212--764--1122."

 

It's NOT her decision to make, you fool!  All this is accomplishing is that some folks will be creating a few days of hell for the very nice receptionist at the Broadway League.

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#10Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 1:21pm

zainmax said: "Pretty sure that a committee and not St. Martin decides." 

Perhaps you misread what I wrote because I said that the committee (of theatre owners) and not Martin decides. 

"Also, might want to be careful Hogan about calling it a cartel."

Why? It is a cartel. All cartels are not illegal. (Plus why would I be careful, unless someone just gifted me a theatre? Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message:  Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie which would be cool)

A Director
#11Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 1:26pm

HogansHero - You are as insufferable as AfterEight and dramamama611 is a close second! :)

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#12Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 1:32pm

glad you are not suffering in silence.

I'm just curious though. what did I say that was insufferable to you? 

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#13Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 3:16pm

I always like Hogans posts cause they usually make sense and it’s backed up.

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#14Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 3:25pm

@Hogan, as someone who appreciates your insight and intelligence, I will say that people are better at taking criticism and correction when they aren't condescended to right at the beginning of it. Your posts that begin with "Why don't people think" (or some variation on that) come across as very condescending. Many people, including myself, DO put a lot of thought into the points we make on this board. We may miss something, or we may be making incorrect assumptions, or we may lack knowledge in a certain area, but we're all using what information we have to come to certain conclusions. 

Your knowledge is appreciated, but it would be more appreciated - and more effectively spread - if you treat people more respectfully. 

Updated On: 9/15/18 at 03:25 PM

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#15Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 3:36pm

Since there is no spokesperson for the committee of theater owners, it is entirely appropriate that messages to them as an entity be sent to Charlotte at:

Charlotte St. Martin
President, The Broadway League
729 Seventh Avenue, 5th Floor
New York, NY 10019
Main Telephone: (212) 764-1122
cstmartin@broadway.org


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#16Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 3:47pm

@JBroadway you may very well be right. I don't think I am ever disrespectful of thoughtful posts. What I find exasperating are posts (like many in this thread) that are not thought out, or that are lazy in the sense that there is information that is readily available to the poster but that is disregarded in the  statements that they make. Certainly when someone says they don't know something or that they are guessing something (as I often do myself) I don't think I condescend in response. I will say one more thing. Some people seem to attack people (including me). With one exception (relating to a poseur whose posts are basically fake) when I attack it is to an idea, not a person. I may call someone out in one thread and praise them to high heavens in the next. I do not recall ripping any post of yours apart (maybe I have) but maybe your post is not about you. (To me, posts about me are basically off-topic, and that includes yours here, but I get it.)

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#17Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 3:53pm

@PalJoey to me it would be more appropriate to address correspondence one feels the need to send to the committee in care of the league. Clogging up her mail box and public email box, especially in light of the short time span, will only delay getting the message to the responsible parties. 

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#18Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 4:58pm

JSquared2 said: "Patti LuPone FANatic said: "Email her at: cstmartin@broadway.org or call 212--764--1122."



It's NOT her decision tomake, you fool! All this is accomplishing is that some folks will be creating a few days of hell for thevery nice receptionist at the Broadway League.
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She's the head of the league.  If she really wanted to honor Marin Mazzie, she would do it.  But she doesn't, for some strange reason.  Many people feel that the Broadway League could do more.  As for calling me names..... we don't know each other.....let's keep it that way.  


"Noel [Coward] and I were in Paris once. Adjoining rooms, of course. One night, I felt mischievous, so I knocked on Noel's door, and he asked, 'Who is it?' I lowered my voice and said 'Hotel detective. Have you got a gentleman in your room?' He answered, 'Just a minute, I'll ask him.'" (Beatrice Lillie)

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#19Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 5:06pm

Patti LuPone FANatic said: "She's the head of the league. If she really wanted to honor Marin Mazzie, she would do it. But she doesn't, for some strange reason.Many people feel that the Broadway League could do more. "

@JBroadway ... to underscore my point...

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#20Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 5:15pm

On Twitter, Daryl Roth has mentioned her desire (to the Broadway League) of seeing all of the Broadway theatre lights dimmed for Marin Mazzie.


"Noel [Coward] and I were in Paris once. Adjoining rooms, of course. One night, I felt mischievous, so I knocked on Noel's door, and he asked, 'Who is it?' I lowered my voice and said 'Hotel detective. Have you got a gentleman in your room?' He answered, 'Just a minute, I'll ask him.'" (Beatrice Lillie)

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#21Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 6:36pm

The Lyric announced on Twitter a little while ago that they’ll be dimming their lights as well.


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#22Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 6:52pm

starcatchers said: "The Lyric announced on Twitter a little while ago that they’ll be dimming their lights as well. "

I saw a tweet that the Friedman will be dimming their lights too. 

VintageSnarker
#23Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 10:04pm

Is it just a dimming of the lights or is there some other recognition of what is happening? I tried to look it up and found photos of the Imperial with a photo and short message but that may just be because they have a digital marquis so it's easier to put something up. 

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#24Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 10:09pm

I am really getting sick of having drama about marquee dimming every time a Broadway legend passes. It ends up taking time and energy away from actually remembering and commemorating legends like Jan and Marin.

So here's my question: what, SPECIFICALLY, is the procedure for deciding these dimmings? Charlotte St. Martin seems to be in the most logical position of power to make these calls, but some on here have said she’s not actually the point person for it? When Marin passed two days ago, for example, what EXACTLY was the chain of command that followed to decide whether Broadway would dim for her? And if only some theaters, who decided which? Do the theater owners themselves decide, or does it come from The Broadway League?

I'm tired of there always being a hullaballoo when we could simply just dim the fr*gging lights. Dimming a marquee does not require a massive undertaking. Literally, the house manager just needs to remember to shut off the lights for one minute and turn them back on.

There needs to be a clear, transparent protocol in place.

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#25Send Charlotte St. Martin A Message: Dim All The Lights For Marin Mazzie
Posted: 9/15/18 at 10:23pm

I don't think all the theaters dim their lights for anyone... I remember I was going to a show the day they were dimming for Elaine Stritch, so I assumed they all did, so I stood outside of Studio 54 (the closest Broadway theater to wherever I was going).... and nothing. And many people were standing there for the same reason, so we all just shrugged and went about our business.