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Media close to Christian gov. -Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life'

Media close to Christian gov. -Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life'

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#1Media close to Christian gov. -Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 1:28pm

God bless religion. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/22/billy-elliot-musical-cuts-dates-hungary-claims-turn-children-gay


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 6/22/18 at 01:28 PM

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#2Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 2:21pm

Could turn kids gay???

What about the adults?  

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#3Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 2:23pm

nealb1 said: "Could turn kids gay???

What about the adults?
"

Too late. They're already "turned"!

 

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#5Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 2:38pm

qolbinau said: "God bless religion.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/22/billy-elliot-musical-cuts-dates-hungary-claims-turn-children-gay
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I might be misreading what you linked to, but nowhere in the article does it mention "Christian Government", nor is the word Christian even mentioned or referred . It refers to the conservative media which is falling in line with the 'illiberal state', but nothing  at all about Christianity or any other religion. 

 

It also points out that the article, which claimed the show could 'make children gay' in the newspaper Magyar Id?k , was written by  columnist  Zsófia N Horváth. It doesn't say that anyone else shared this belief, nor would the writer comment on her published opinion - and never revealed her religion.  Again, no ties at all to Christianity.

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#6Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 2:52pm

What is the Christian government? Is it describing a government full of Christian's or some place called "christian" and their government? This whole title is very misleading?

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#7Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 3:01pm

David10086 said: "qolbinau said: "God bless religion.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/22/billy-elliot-musical-cuts-dates-hungary-claims-turn-children-gay
"

I might be misreading what you linked to, but nowhere in the article does it mention "Christian Government", nor is the word Christian even mentioned or referred . It refers tothe conservative media which is falling in line with the 'illiberal state', but nothing at all about Christianity or any other religion.



It also points out that the article, which claimed the show could 'make children gay' in the newspaperMagyar Id?k, was written by columnist Zsófia N Horváth. It doesn't say that anyone else shared this belief, nor would the writer comment on her published opinion - and never revealed her religion.Again, no ties at all to Christianity.
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It doesn’t. But that’s never stopped him from making things up in the past. 

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#8Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 3:08pm

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"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 6/22/18 at 03:08 PM

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#9Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 3:15pm

Apologies, I have corrected the thread title to say "Media close to Christian government", as claimed by The Guardian Article*

*  While the article doesn't explicitly use the word "Christian", make no mistake - the Viktor Orbán government is a right-wing Christian government and the PM said his duty is to protect Hungary's "Christian Culture"Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'. You can search this on google if you need to learn more. Don't be so naive to think these kinds of attitudes and ideas around LGBT people appear out of no where.

 


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 6/22/18 at 03:15 PM

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#10Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 3:53pm

Anyone have more insight into this quote from the article:

"He also noted that the only gay character from the original script was not included in the Hungarian production."

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#11Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 4:06pm

Tag said: "Anyone have more insight into this quote from the article:

"He also noted that the only gay character from the original script was not included in the Hungarian production."
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Maybe Michael, Billy’s friend who cross dresses.

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#12Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 4:12pm

^Yes I figured that, but how was he allowed to be cut out?  I mean I guess he isn't that integral to the plot, but still surprised to see this was allowed.

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#13Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 4:44pm

FWIW, the Hungarian State Opera is set to make its US debut later this year at Lincoln Center.  It will be performing the Janos Vajda opera "Mario and the Magician."  The opera is, of course, based on Thomas Mann's great 1929 anti-fascism novella.  Sounds like this is an opera company trying to fight the good fight.

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#14Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 4:54pm

I’m trying to understand. This shows already ran since 2016 and is just cancelling some final performances or what?

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#16Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 7:51pm

With all due respect, qlobinau, I'm not getting the connection between Christianity (or any specific religion) and the show closing. None at all. 

The PM has a very conservative agenda (understood), but nowhere in this article does it say the reason for the closure is based on any particular religious belief. It could be more of a cultural reasoning - but it's not clear. And again, the quote about children turning gay is the writer's own opinion - hers, and hers alone. 

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#17Christian Government says Billy Elliot promotes 'deviant way of life' and could 'turn children gay'
Posted: 6/22/18 at 8:58pm

I have tickets to the Hungary production of La Cage Aux Folles in late September.  What are the odds that it’s still a go?

Updated On: 6/22/18 at 08:58 PM