Les miserables school edition

[Cmanchester2]

MTI states that Les Miserable School Edition is for 18 and under with no exceptions. A local theatre cast a 19 year old in it. Doesn't this violate MTI rules and if so do I report it? What will happen to them?

[icecastle]

What, are you mad you didn't get the part you wanted?

[Sondheimite]

Cmanchester2 said: "MTI states that Les Miserable School Edition is for 18 and under with no exceptions. A local theatre cast a 19 year old in it. Doesn't this violate MTI rules and if so do I report it? What will happen to them?"

Nothing.

Nothing will happen.

I hope you get cast next time around.  

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Don’t report them. You’re not the theater police. It’s meant to be a youth production and 19 is still pretty young. Besides, you can legally be a high school student until you are 22.

[dramamama611]

How do you know they didn't get permission for one exception?  You don't.   Let it alone, this is nothing to get your panties in a twist over.   (And I DO consider myself R&R police.)

[BalconyClub]

Cmanchester2 said: "MTI states that Les Miserable School Edition is for 18 and under with no exceptions. A local theatre cast a 19 year old in it. Doesn't this violate MTI rules and if so do I report it? What will happen to them?"

If you see something, say something.

MTI will appreciate the alert.

[LizzieCurry]

I reported a school edition once 10 years ago, but it was for egregious text alterations. Not sure what happened other than the theatre company eventually went bankrupt but I don't think that was related...

[The Distinctive Baritone]

I believe that productions should be reported if they are seriously breaking the rules, but this sounds like the kind of thing that really should be let go. It's a high school for chrissake.

[Cmanchester2]

For those commenting about me not getting the part or that it is a high school... I am an adult who is very involved in local theatre (including this one) as a volunteer building sets and creating costumes. I have been doing it for almost 30 years and believe in the integrity of the theatre and rules are rules. So many are affected when one rule is broken. It creates a domino effect when that one role is given to someone who shouldn't even be in the show because every person under that person could have been in a different role that they worked hard for but didn't get all because that one person was given a part they are not even eligible for. And it isn't a high school...it is a local theatre. And it doesn't matter what age high schoolers can be...the rule states age 18 and under with NO EXCEPTIONS! What are the performers being taught if the adults running the shows are violating rules?

[Cmanchester2]

dramamama611 said: "How do you know they didn't get permission for one exception? You don't. Let it alone, this is nothing to get your panties in a twist over. (And I DO consider myself R&R police.)"

 

MTI rule states "no exceptions".   I have been helping with local theatre for 30 years and believe in integrity and teaching the youth.  What message are we sending the youth if rules are knowingly being broken? 

 

[Sondheimite]

Cmanchester2 said: "For those commenting about me not getting the part or that it is a high school... I am an adult who is very involved in local theatre (including this one) as a volunteer building sets and creating costumes. I have been doing it for almost 30 years and believe in the integrity of the theatre and rules arerules. So many are affected when one rule is broken. It creates a domino effectwhen that one role is given to someone who shouldn't even be in the show because every person under that person could have been in a different role that they worked hard for but didn't get all because that one person was given a part they are not even eligible for. And it isn't a high school...it is a local theatre. And it doesn't matter what age high schoolers can be...the rule states age 18 and under with NO EXCEPTIONS! What are the performers being taught if the adults running the shows are violating rules?"

You must get invited to a lot of parties.  

[Cmanchester2]

Sondheimite said: "Cmanchester2 said: "MTI states that Les Miserable School Edition is for 18 and under with no exceptions. A local theatre cast a 19 year old in it. Doesn't this violate MTI rules and if so do I report it? What will happen to them?"

Nothing.

Nothing will happen.

I hope you get cast next time around."

 

considering I am an adult who has been helping at local theatres (including this one) I couldn't be cast nor did I audition.  I will help costume the show and build sets.   Because of my passion for theatre and teaching the youth for 30 years I am very saddened that one of the theatres I am involved in is teaching the youth that rules can be broken.   Not the impression I want given with my name attached to it  

 

[Cmanchester2]

Sondheimite said: "Cmanchester2 said: "For those commenting about me not getting the part or that it is a high school... I am an adult who is very involved in local theatre (including this one) as a volunteer building sets and creating costumes. I have been doing it for almost 30 years and believe in the integrity of the theatre and rules arerules. So many are affected when one rule is broken. It creates a domino effectwhen that one role is given to someone who shouldn't even be in the show because every person under that person could have been in a different role that they worked hard for but didn't get all because that one person was given a part they are not even eligible for. And it isn't a high school...it is a local theatre. And it doesn't matter what age high schoolers can be...the rule states age 18 and under with NO EXCEPTIONS! What are the performers being taught if the adults running the shows are violating rules?"

You must get invited to a lot of parties."

you obviously have nothing constructive to say.   Sad that trolls are on every website!  There are several people very concerned over this because if it isn't reported before the show and the person removed it can be reported after and then the theatre can lose it privileges for licensing and then what happens to all the kids involved?   

 

[Cmanchester2]

Maybe I should have made myself clearer with my reasoning about asking about reporting:
Several volunteers from the theatre are concerned if something isn't reported before the show and the person removed than what happens if it is reported after the show is over and he was is in? We are concerned that it will affect the future licensing to this theatre and then the kids suffer! That is the reason behind the question. Not because we are being petty.

[Cmanchester2]

The Distinctive Baritone said: "Don’t report them. You’re not the theater police. It’s meant to be a youth production and 19 is still pretty young. Besides, you can legally be a high school student until you are 22."

the student edition has nothing to do with being in high school.  It is strictly an age thing with no exceptions   This question was asked because we (volunteers at the theatre) are concerned if it isn't handled before the show and it is reported after he was already in the show it will affect future licensing which will hurt everyone in the long run  

 

[Cmanchester2]

[Shh_413]

Don't jump on me if I'm wrong, but as an outsider who has no experience with these things (I came from a STEM high school), it appears that this rule was made to prevent theater directors from fulfilling their childhood dreams of starring as Jean Valjean in a school production of Les Miz and potentially taking roles away from kids.

That's why they put the 18-year-old rule as a random cap as they think that most high schoolers would be around that age before they graduate. But if the student was held back or home-schooled for a part of his/her life and came into high school slightly older and is sufficiently talented, I think MTI would understand.

[dramamama611]

Since you already know what you want to do (report them) why did you bother to join this site to ask? And, since we gave our opinions, why are you arguing with us?

I've gotten permission to do lots of things from MTI, Samuel French, etc., that are stated to have no exceptions.

If you think it's worth telling MTI, then do it. It is highly unlikely that anything will be done. Have you talked to the director/producers? What's their excuse for allowing this to happen?

[Cmanchester2]

Shh_413 said: "Don't jump on me if I'm wrong, but as an outsider who has no experience with these things (I came from a STEM high school), it appears that this rule was made to prevent theater directors from fulfilling their childhood dreams of starring as Jean Valjean in a school production of Les Miz and potentially taking roles away from kids.

That's why they put the 18-year-old rule as a random cap as they think that most high schoolers would be around that age before they graduate. But if the student was held back or home-schooled for a part of his/her life and came into high school slightly older and is sufficiently talented, I think MTI would understand."

Again this is not a high school.  It is a local theatre.  And the person in question is a college honors student. He will actually be 20 by the time the show happens.  Our concern is a rival theatre will report it after the fact and it will affect future licensing.  We were told the reason for the age is because the regular Les miserables for adults is restricted and cannot be purchased so MTI wants to make sure adults are not doing the student edition. 

[Cmanchester2]

dramamama611 said: "Since you already know what you want to do (report them) why did you bother to join this site to ask? And, since we gave our opinions, why are you arguing with us?

I've gotten permission to do lots of things from MTI, Samuel French, etc., that are stated to have no exceptions.

If you think it's worth telling MTI, then do it. It is highly unlikely that anything will be done. Have you talked to the director/producers? What's their excuse for allowing this to happen?

i am sorry if you think I am arguing but that is not what I am doing   I wanted to know if it gets reported now what will happen? Will they just have to remove him before the show.  We don't want a rival theatre reporting it after the fact and it affect the future licensing (sadly rival theatres around here have reported much less).  And yes we did talk to the directors and the reason is because if he doesn't do it then the girlfriend will quit which means her father won't help build the sets.  To us it is reasons not worth the risk.   We all help and have done shows there for decades without with father and will continue after she goes off to college!  

 

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Cmanchester2 said: "The Distinctive Baritone said: "Don’t report them. You’re not the theater police. It’s meant to be a youth production and 19 is still pretty young. Besides, you can legally be a high school student until you are 22."

the student edition has nothing to do with being in high school. It isstrictly an age thing with no exceptions This question was asked because we (volunteers at the theatre) are concerned if it isn't handled before the show and it is reported after he was already in the show it will affect future licensing which will hurt everyone in the long run

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You should find a grownup version of the show and play Javert. Sounds like it would be a good role for you.

[Cmanchester2]

The Distinctive Baritone said: "Cmanchester2 said: "The Distinctive Baritone said: "Don’t report them. You’re not the theater police. It’s meant to be a youth production and 19 is still pretty young. Besides, you can legally be a high school student until you are 22."

the student edition has nothing to do with being in high school. It isstrictly an age thing with no exceptions This question was asked because we (volunteers at the theatre) are concerned if it isn't handled before the show and it is reported after he was already in the show it will affect future licensing which will hurt everyone in the long run

 



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You should find a grownup version of the show and play Javert. Sounds like it would be a good role for you."

Again no constructive answers from certain people.  Why doesn't anyone understand that we are concerned with the future licensing. WE WANT THE SHOW TO HAPPEN.  We want to make sure it is being done within the rules so it doesn't get reported after the fact.  Then the future of shows is affected and the kids suffer.  There are 6 of us who are worried...all adult volunteers at this theatre.  We tried speaking to the directors and now we wanted to reach out to others who might know the answer.  Any person with the performers' best interest at heart would be concerned.  But unfortunately most people think I care because me being a 53 year old woman wants the part the almost 20 year old male got.  I received quite a few private messages regarding this and they are very helpful.  Only the trolls with negative comments like to do it publicly.  Theatre  shouldn't be made into an outlet for hate and that is exactly what is happening on some of these these threads. 

[The Distinctive Baritone]

I think you mean well, but are not seeing this situation clearly: Even if it gets reported, nothing will happen. NOTHING. The show is okay. You’re okay. Everything’s okay. Nothing bad is going to happen. I’m sure of it. Take care.

[Cmanchester2]

The Distinctive Baritone said: "I think you mean well, but are not seeing this situation clearly: Even if it gets reported, nothing will happen. NOTHING. The show is okay. You’re okay. Everything’s okay. Nothing bad is going to happen. I’m sure of it. Take care."

That was my concern!   That something would happen. A theatre less than an hour away had licensing pulled for breaking rules and I was concerned. Thanks. 

[Elfuhbuh]

If you're really, truly worried about it, have the director contact MTI and ask if an exception can be made for this production. I really doubt they'll throw a fit if someone one year older than the stated age limit is in the show.