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Grand Hotel has a few homosexual subplots that feel very shoe-horned in, but I can't not bring up:
-One bellhop hits on the other bellhop, calling him a "fancy boy"... very classic gay predator.
-Raffella is so so so in love with Elizaveta, but nothing ever comes of it and she just sings about how upset she is the entire show.
Man that show... is all over the place.
EDIT: Now that I've read the chart properly, you already got this one. Check!
Seems like opera is just here to up the "dead" numbers?
And does Billy Elliott count as a character that ends up pining for a straight guy? I mean, for a minor barely teenaged character, what else is he supposed to do?


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I seem to remember either Buddy or Terry being gay and closeted in the SideShow revival... does anyone remember if I'm correct?


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haterobics - True Billy's friend Michael has few options. His two kisses with Billy seem to fit him in the category though. The movie does flash forward to an adult Michael with a partner, but the musical ends with him bidding Billy a wistful goodbye.
raddersons - Thank you! I'd remembered Raffella but had forgotten the Bellboy!
MrsSallyAdams said: "haterobics - True Billy's friend Michael has few options. His two kisses with Billy seem to fit him in the category though. The movie does flash forward to an adult Michael with a partner, but the musical ends with him bidding Billy a wistful goodbye."
Love Simon seemed to be about the lead characters having a happy ending, so to extrapolate that to any minor character in a musical seems a stretch. Of course, if you reduce musical theater to only shows with LGBTQ leads doing anything, then it is such a small chart...


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I just remembered another one: Louis from American Psycho. I'm not sure where to put him on the chart though. He starts engaged to a woman. Then he becomes infatuated with Patrick. We see Patrick attack him late in act two but then reality is called into question so we don't know if it really happened.
I laughed out loud when I scrolled down and noticed the "undead" category.


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Ursula, The Little Mermaid
King Herod, JCS
Farwquaad, Shrek
Arachne, Spider-Man (she loved those shoes!)
Evil Bellhop, Grand Hotel (I’m counting it, dammit)
Frank-n-furter (and his whole castle, for that matter), Rocky Horror
Who is the LGBTQ+ character in Carrie? Also in Hair, are you referring to Woof?


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The revised book of Carrie gives Tommy Ross a small group of friends. One of them is closeted. A running gag is that he keeps flirting with Tommy only to hesitantly back off. He died at the prom with the rest of his class.
I believe the character in Hair who sings Sodomy is Woof. The lady who sings Air tells the audience that he's in love with Berger. I've also seen some Bergers play the character as bi but that's not really in the text beyond one joke.
Also, I would add that Peter in Bare a pop opera is also gay but does not die by suicide and ends up single.
The best Claude I ever saw in Hair played the character as completely and openly gay. It made Jeanie a much funnier and more oddly sympathetic character, and her "He loves me..." got applause and huge laughs.


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I remember the musical "Curtains" had a joke about the men's chorus being blackmailed for homosexuality. The detective said "What are you boys doing that you don't want your mothers to know?" Then they each quickly placed an arm around a female chorus member.
The rude director in that show was coded gay but I don't believe it's confirmed in the text.
MrsSallyAdams said: "Re thebookofwhizzer:
The revised book of Carrie gives Tommy Ross a small group of friends. One of them is closeted. A running gag is that he keeps flirting with Tommy only to hesitantly back off. He died at the prom with the rest of his class.
I believe the character in Hair who sings Sodomy is Woof. The lady who sings Air tells the audience that he's in love with Berger. I've also seen some Bergers play the character as bi but that's not really in the text beyond one joke."
Oh, of course! Now I remember him from Carrie! And yes Woof does sing Sodomy and Jeanie does tell them that he is in love with Berger. I believe Woof also mentions Mick Jagger as well.


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More brainstorming
Cruel Intentions
Drowsy Chaperone (I'd forgotten Trix the aviatrix)
Loving Repeating (Gertrude Stein and alice Toklas)
Rebecca (Ms Danvers)
Tales from the City (hasn't reached NY)
Does the gay dad in Mama Mia have a boyfriend? I know the film paired Colin Firth with a chorus boy.
edit: The Life (a trans character gets a verse in the song "Someday is for Suckers"
Very nice job on the chart!
For Aspects of Love, as you know, Rose and Giulietta have a minor fling. Rose ends up alone (widowed), but Giulietta - who I think is more clearly bisexual - ends up with Alex at the end of the show.


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There are also Logainne's married fathers in The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee, Carl and Dan.


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Vanity Fair's Richard Lawson recently wrote: "I want a gay thing about gay adults who are relatively well-adjusted and aren't dying, that is wistful, hopeful, fun."
He's talking about films but I'll apply it to musicals. I can't define "well-adjusted" but as for the rest of the categories I'd put the following:
Boy Meets Boy (1975)
La Cage Aux Folles (1983)
Priscilla, Queen of the Desert (2011)
Tales of the City (2011)
[title of show] (2008)
A Year With Frog and Toad (2003) (it's canon!)
When Pigs Fly (1996)









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Posted: 6/4/18 at 5:28pm