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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#1
Posted: 5/6/18 at 3:08pm

... as a Broadway house? It's certainly needed, but the church may have locked up ownership. Does anyone walk by there on Sunday mornings to estimate how it's doing in terms of attendance?

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#2
Posted: 5/6/18 at 3:49pm

I don't think they are going anywhere anytime soon.

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#3
Posted: 5/6/18 at 4:21pm

yes, in the sense that the Dutch could reclaim Manhattan.

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#4
Posted: 5/6/18 at 6:38pm

Actually the church has outgrown it and wanted to dump it a few years ago, but aside from a nibble from Cameron MacIntosh, there were no takers.

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#5
Posted: 5/7/18 at 8:59am

I could see it happening in the next 20 years.

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#6
Posted: 5/7/18 at 1:06pm

This would be my dream venue for MOULIN ROUGE...

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#7
Posted: 5/7/18 at 1:28pm

Perhaps ATG would go after it now, if the church were to try to move out.

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#8
Posted: 5/7/18 at 2:07pm

Kad said: "Perhaps ATG would go after it now, if the church were to try to move out."

I was just going to ask if they had begun establishing their foothold here in the US the last time the church put out some feelers about potentially selling (I vaguely remember the Cameron Mackintosh info Jay mentioned, but can't recall when that was specifically). If I remember correctly, they didn't really arrive on the scene as landlords here in the US until 2015 or so when they announced that they would be taking control of the Hudson and had acquired ACE Theatrical Group and their venues. Based on their management of the Hudson (I haven't been to the Lyric yet since they've taken it over) I would be more than happy to see them add this one to their list of venues.

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Posted: 5/7/18 at 2:13pm

But the church is an amazing establishment that is part of an amazing wider system leading to humanitarian outcomes such as banning abortion, persecuting gay people, denying scientific truths and feeding the next American soldiers of God (aka Republican Party members). Why would we ever want to see it repurposed as a Broadway house?

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#10
Posted: 5/7/18 at 2:25pm

My understanding is that the church doesn't want to sell the Hellinger. I mean, where would it move to? Saint Patrick's? There are likely a lot of potential buyers out there for the theater (and its air rights).

Apparently the church, at least, is taking good care of the building. Probably better care than when Nederlander owned it. (Of course, the church also is tax exempt.)

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#11
Posted: 5/7/18 at 4:46pm

HogansHero said: "yes, in the sense that the Dutch could reclaim Manhattan."

Once this happened, the Lenape could reclaim Manahatta!

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#12
Posted: 5/7/18 at 8:17pm

In my opinion the Mark Hellinger is the most beautiful theatre on broadway, with not a bad seat in the house. I’ll never forgive the Nederlanders for selling it

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Posted: 5/7/18 at 9:04pm

tomwsjr said: "In my opinion the Mark Hellinger is the most beautiful theatre on broadway, with not a bad seat in the house. I’ll never forgive the Nederlanders for selling it"

I totally agree. The last time I was at the theatre, it was depressing because it was so in need of refurbishment. But, what a gorgeous theatre and what a spectacular lobby. There are opera houses that don't have lobbies as beautiful as the Hellinger. Hopefully, it will return to its original purpose at some point.

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#14
Posted: 5/7/18 at 9:19pm

qolbinau said: "But the church is an amazing establishment that is part of an amazing wider system leading to humanitarian outcomes such as banning abortion, persecuting gay people, denying scientific truths and feeding the next American soldiers of God (aka Republican Party members). Why would we ever want to see it repurposed as a Broadway house?"

Feel better?

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#15
Posted: 5/8/18 at 8:35am

kade.ivy said: "Feel better?"

I don't know about qolbinau, but I feel better reading it. These truths - so obvious, yet denied by so many - can't be emphasized enough.

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#16
Posted: 5/8/18 at 8:58am

Anyone know how much the Nederlanders sold it for?

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Is it possible to reclaim the Hellinger...#17
Posted: 5/8/18 at 9:49am

Deena Jones said: "Anyone know how much the Nederlanders sold it for?"

60 guilders?