Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
#1Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 2:49pm
Has there been any surprises in who you thought would be more/less successful post Hamilton?
Taking LMM out of the equation, I would say that Ramos has exceeded my expectations and Odom has not gotten the opportunity I thought he would have. Diggs is making moves, Jackson has a steady gig but it's an underwhelming show. Jasmine is kinda swimming but I think she's likely to break through and it's a benefit that her dad is getting acclaim and mentions her often. Renee is yet to be seen and Soo had a flop.
So, have the ones you thought would be bigger sink or vice versa?
#2Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 3:30pm
Oak is or the biggest winner of them all!
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Timothy Davis
Swing Joined: 2/25/17
#3Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 3:41pmI mean Leslie’s had two albums and a big movie since Hamilton. But I would like to see him back on Broadway in a big role.
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#4Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 3:52pm
Timothy Davis said: "I mean Leslie’s had two albums and a big movie since Hamilton. But I would like to see him back on Broadway in a big role."
Broadway is in no big hurry to get him back --- there's a reason why within the industry he's known as Leslie Odious Jr.
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Posted: 11/22/17 at 3:57pm
I don’t remember the answer to this but his whole comment that he wasn’t going to be in the OBC taping then was etc. to me suggests that he was trying to play a hard negotiating game (maybe with legitimate reasons, who knows).
I don’t think anyone involved in Hamilton will have (or has - except LMM) mega success on the back of this show. This industry is hard - especially for POC. The show was bigger than the cast contributions.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Sunny11
Broadway Star Joined: 9/3/14
#6Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 3:58pm
Groff is the lead of a Netflix show, Mindhunter.
#7Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 4:07pm
Leslie "Odious" Jr.? Huh- when I conversed with him at the New Dramatists luncheon, he was so friendly. He even asked me to take a selfie with him.
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#8Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 5:18pmRenee did a movie with Oprah. She’s been seen.
Rainah
Broadway Star Joined: 11/24/16
#9Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 6:14pm
I get the strong feeling that some of the older OBC are happy in semi-retirement. Renee and Leslie have both talked about not wanting to open another show and do the whole 8 shows a week thing. They both have young kids now, I can definitely see them picking and choosing their projects.
Pippa has done pretty well. A lead role in a (bad) musical, followed by a lead role in a play right after. She's turning into quite the leading lady.
Ramos, Jas seem to still be finding their way. They certainly got a boost from Hamilton but not enough for either to break out. Daveed should get there with enough hustle though, he's been doing well. Jackson's been doing fine but I don't know how much his career was boosted with Hamilton. Same with Groff - he was already a rising star, I don't know if 9 min of stage time per night in Hamilton made much of a difference. Though of course, it didn't hurt either.
I ain't touching the Oak thing. Time will tell I guess.
#10Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 6:49pm
SchuylWERKsister said: "Renee did a movie with Oprah. She’s been seen."
Oh yeah, I forgot
#11Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 6:51pm
Rainah said: "I get the strong feeling that someof the older OBC are happy in semi-retirement. Renee and Leslie have both talked about not wanting to open another show and do the whole 8 shows a week thing. They both have young kids now, I can definitely see them picking and choosing their projects.
Pippa has done pretty well. A lead role in a (bad) musical, followed by a lead role in a play right after. She's turning into quite the leading lady.
Ramos, Jas seem to still be finding their way. They certainly got a boost from Hamilton but not enough for either to break out. Daveed should get there with enough hustle though, he's been doing well. Jackson's been doing fine but I don't know how much his career was boosted with Hamilton. Same with Groff - he was already a rising star, I don't know if 9 min of stage time per night in Hamilton made much of a difference. Though of course, it didn't hurt either.
I ain't touching the Oak thing. Time will tell I guess."
Ramos has been popping up a lot. He's on Will and Grace, Spike Lee's new show, some movies, etc. I think he might be the long term winner of using the role to catapult to a career
schubox
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/16
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Posted: 11/22/17 at 8:40pmIgnoring the Oak/Comet drama, he did get cast in a tv show right?
#13Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 9:23pm
Oak has a new Shondaland show. I don't think one needs to even mention PIERRE to say his career is beyond where it was before.
And Diggs is working extensively in TV and even developing projects in film and TV. So, again, quite fine.
trpguyy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/25/05
#14Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 10:40pm
Almost all of them are receiving north of $1k/week to do nothing; they're all winners in that regard.
#15Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/22/17 at 10:50pm
trpguyy said: "Almost all of them are receivingnorth of $1k/week to do nothing; they're all winners in that regard."
I thought it was the entire cast was sharing a percentage point of the box office. Not just each of them earning 1000 a week.
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grumpyoptimist
Leading Actor Joined: 2/26/11
#16Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/23/17 at 1:27am
According to Bloomberg, there are 38 (not the 22 the quote will cite) in the profit sharing pool, and they split "...1 percent of net profits from New York, all 22 will now share in 0.33 percent of the net profits from Chicago and all other U.S. productions, except Broadway and future revivals."(https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-hamilton-broadway-profit/)
Call_me_jorge said: "trpguyy said: "Almost all of them are receivingnorth of $1k/week to do nothing; they're all winners in that regard."
I thought it was the entire cast was sharing a percentage point of the box office. Not just each of them earning 1000 a week."
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Posted: 11/23/17 at 6:15amDiggs is one of the creators of the show "Mayor" on ABC. We may not technically see him on the show (although he has popped up on it), but I think he's doing alright for himself if he sold a show to network TV.
#18Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/23/17 at 9:24am
Maybe it’s the holiday and probably it’s because I just saw the show again in Chicago, but I consider anyone that has ever been associated with Hamilton a surefire winner. They will get to say they were part of this landmark show for the rest of their lives. This is my favorite, favorite show (which is saying a lot). So thankful to have seen it twice now.
herewegoabc
Leading Actor Joined: 1/26/08
#19Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/23/17 at 9:48am
Daveed also did a whole season recurring on Blackish.
Kitzka
Chorus Member Joined: 10/5/08
#20Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/23/17 at 10:47am
herewegoabc said: "Daveed also did a whole season recurring on Blackish."
And he's in the movie Wonder with Julia Roberts. It's a family movie and while not something I would see it's a big family film.
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Posted: 11/23/17 at 11:27amDiggs is definitely the one who has made the most of the past 15 months. Blackish, Kimmy Schmidt, The Mayor,Wonder. I rank him #1. I would rank Ramos #2 bc even though he doesn't have a series or a record, he's popping up everywhere which means that he catches the eyes of casting. Only a matter of time until he hits a homerun
SomethingPeculiar
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/15/14
#22Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/23/17 at 11:36am
Considering that the general public really did not know who any of them were before Hamilton (with the possible exception of Groff), they've all done pretty well.
I would agree Diggs probably has the most post-Ham visibility. (And not just because of his hair which has become sort of iconic/recognizable in a very good way.)
Leslie is also in the Nationwide commercial and has his regular album + Christmas album + Orient Express.
#23Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/23/17 at 11:36am
Hellob said: "Diggs is definitely the one who has made the most of the past 15 months. Blackish, Kimmy Schmidt, The Mayor,Wonder. I rank him #1. I would rank Ramos #2 bc even though he doesn't have a series or a record, he's popping up everywhere which means that he catches the eyes of casting. Only a matter of time until he hits a homerun "
Ramos is in all ten episodes of the ten episode She’s Gotta Have It. Are we not counting that as having a series?
#24Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/23/17 at 1:13pm
Anakela said: "Hellob said: "Diggs is definitely the one who has made the most of the past 15 months. Blackish, Kimmy Schmidt, The Mayor,Wonder. I rank him #1. I would rank Ramos #2 bc even though he doesn't have a series or a record, he's popping up everywhere which means that he catches the eyes of casting. Only a matter of time until he hits a homerun "
Ramos is in all ten episodes of the ten episode She’s Gotta Have It. Are wenot counting that as having a series?"
Yes, we would. I should have checked IMDb. I assumed he was recurring. He's doing so well!
schubox
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/16
#25Winners and losers of Hamilton obc a year later
Posted: 11/23/17 at 1:14pm
Hellob said: "Diggs is definitely the one who has made the most of the past 15 months. Blackish, Kimmy Schmidt, The Mayor,Wonder. I rank him #1. I would rank Ramos #2 bc even though he doesn't have a series or a record, he's popping up everywhere which means that he catches the eyes of casting. Only a matter of time until he hits a homerun "
He’s also got a bunch more movies coming out, including a Spike Lee film
