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Caroline, or Change: "That old copper statue?... 'Honorin' the brave Confed'rate Soldier'"

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#25Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/18/17 at 7:02pm

I would for The Actor's Fund or BCEFA or someone to do this as a concert benefit right now. I'd love a revival, but I'd like to see so many different people sing this show. 

I'm just going to ponder this with a sheet cake.

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#26Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/18/17 at 8:31pm

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I think Caroline, or Change is *vastly* superior to Fun Home. I so vividly remember everything about this show and what a masterpiece it was.   Adding to that was the fact that I saw the matinee of the Trashterpiece that was Dracula the Musical on the same day.

In the intervening years, I've had the chance to talk to several members of the cast - as well as George C. Wolfe - at industry events, and every single time I bring up the show, there's this acknowledgement in their face that they knew they were part of something very, very special that was cut short. 


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JBC3
#27Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/18/17 at 9:00pm

Caroline, or Change and Fun Home are so different that I feel no need to pit one against the other. Both have substantial merits.

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#28Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/18/17 at 9:07pm

Caroline, or Change was so ahead of it's time that audiences didn't know what to think of it.  Now it would feel so painfully relevant and also incredibly fresh.  I would love to see it come back.  I saw Uzo Aduba and Jane Krakowski mentioned on here one time as possible choices for Caroline and Rose and I really do think that the two of them would be sensational.

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#29Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/18/17 at 9:09pm

I consider Caroline, or Change the greatest musical of the 21st century, and my second favorite musical of all time. It is stunning. Fun Home is beautiful and important as well, but there's something about Caroline that makes it one of the greatest shows ever written. But, with such an embarrassment of riches, why should we debate it?


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orlikethecolorpurple
#30Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/18/17 at 9:23pm

PLEASE. TAKE ALL MY MONEY. 

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#31Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/18/17 at 10:21pm

Glad to see so much love for this show right now. It really is time. This needs to return. 

yeah
#32Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 10:10am

Audra McDonald as Caroline.  Anyone?  

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#33Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 11:11am

rcwr said: "**by most white people. (Who have considered them solved/fine for centuries.)

And YES to the Caroline revival right now.
"

Good catch. Broadway audiences are overwhelmingly white, unfortunately... this show flew right over most of their heads.

eorgeandDot said: "Caroline, or Change was so ahead of it's time that audiences didn't know what to think of it.  Now it would feel so painfully relevant and also incredibly fresh.  I would love to see it come back.  I saw Uzo Aduba and Jane Krakowski mentioned on here one time as possible choices for Caroline and Rose and I really do think that the two of them would be sensational."

Wow wow wow... Uzo and Jane... I would pay HUGE money to see that. 

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#34Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 11:20am

Honestly, for a revival the only person I want to see as Caroline is Anika. 

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#35Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 11:31am

How old is Caroline, and how old are her kids?

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#36Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 1:35pm

Caroline is 39. And still a maid.

 

Larry was born in 1943, making him 19-20. Emmy was born in 1947 so she's around 15. Jackie & Joe's ages aren't exact but I'm guessing they're around 8-10 years old. 

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#37Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 2:17pm

And I'm shocked to see that Anika Noni Rose is 44. Would be great to see her Caroline. Would she sell tickets? Would anyone who could be a good Caroline?

VintageSnarker
#38Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 11:30pm

orlikethecolorpurple said: "PLEASE. TAKE ALL MY MONEY. 

This. Oh my God, if I could watch Once On This Island and then Caroline, or Change... forget everything I've said about original musicals. There are just some revivals that would make my heart too happy to say no to them. 

 

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#39Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 11:42pm

Can we keep bumping this thread until a producer understands the extent to which this needs to happen right now?

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#40Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 11:44pm

Does Viola Davis sing? She would act this role so well they'd be throwing Tonys instead of flowers at her opening night curtain call. 

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#41Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 11:46pm

I hope they revive this but with a major star (I kind of wish Oprah could sing the part, I know that sounds ridiculous). I don't know if Audra's voice really suits the score either? The show deserves a revival with major buzz and a far reach. I don't want to see it open again, struggle and shutter in just a couple of months. I am afraid any revival with standard Broadway fare would be doomed from the start. 


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

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#42Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/19/17 at 11:47pm

I was just thinking "If only Viola Davis could belt." 

I'd honestly love to see someone like Classic Stage/John Doyle restage this show. I think the original - though I didn't see it - is incredible, but I can't imagine we'll get a commercial production. Maybe if Roundabout had the guts? But they don't seem to do many "ethnic" shows. 

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#43Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/20/17 at 12:16am

I'd rather see Doyle keep his hands off this, as I don't personally like his work. But knowing him and how he runs CSC, it does seem like the sort of piece he'd elect to tackle. And I'd rather see Doyle do it than no one at all. 

 

 

Updated On: 8/20/17 at 12:16 AM

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#44Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/20/17 at 3:22am

If Doyle got this, I would rain hell on him for cutting any of it. 

yeah
#45Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/20/17 at 8:44am

Viola and Oprah are too old for the role (I know, I hate to say that - I mean, look at Glenn Close in SB).  

I'd love to see it off-broadway, where it started, at the Public.  Erika Alexander is an extraordinary actress who can carry a tune - she's not really a big "name," but she'd do it justice, in my humble opinion.  

What about Idina Menzel?  Color-blind casting?   :P  

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#46Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/20/17 at 8:48am

Would Audra be willing to do another revival?  Is Patina Miller too young? (I think she has the fierceness)

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#47Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/20/17 at 12:08pm

yeah said: "What about Idina Menzel?  Color-blind casting?   :P "

 

Emmy Rossum HAS to play Caroline in "Caroline, or Change"

 

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#48Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/20/17 at 12:14pm

yeah said: "What about Idina Menzel?  Color-blind casting?   :P  "

I know you're joking, but color-blind casting in a show about race is... no.

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#49Caroline, or Change:
Posted: 8/20/17 at 1:13pm

MarkBearSF said: "Would Audra be willing to do another revival?  Is Patina Miller too young? (I think she has the fierceness)"

 

??????Has Audra said anything about being against revivals? I agree that Patina would be great, and would probably sell well. I still want to see a Heather Headley led cast. 

 


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