Strategy

[South Florida]

What do we do?  Nancy Pelosi has to go.  Can we start there?  You guys have noticed that the party is more left now, right PJ?

 

[javero]

Get rid of Pelosi and I'll reconsider rejoining the party.  It would be nice to come in from the cold.

Somewhat related, Kathleen Matthews is now running for the Maryland DNC Chair.  Nice lady but she's about as elite as they come, and married to everyone's favorite MSNBC windbag Chris Matthews.  I suspect that the party bosses here in MD are trying to elevate her profile to position her for a possible run for the governorship against the incumbent GOP governor Larry Hogan, who is somewhat popular with voters of all stripes.

[South Florida]

She's now officially a joke, this is making me very angry.

 

[South Florida]

Pissing me off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdq9B7OZ01s

[South Florida]

Debbie Wasserman Schultz is still in Congress do we need any more proof the system is ****ed?

 

[javero]

So is Jason Chaffetz...pox on both houses

[South Florida]

You don't win the Democratic primary if you don't have the black vote.  

 

[javero]

Then look for the love child of Bill Clinton & Elizabeth Warren (or Bill and Nikki Haley) and get him or her elected governor somewhere.  The Dems desperately need to win back seats on county boards and in state houses, preferably in the rust belt & midwestern counties.  Otherwise, you risk remaining a regional party that appeals mainly to the disciples of Nancy Pelosi, Rahm Emanuel, DWS, Donna Brazile, and Bill de Blasio.

[Petralicious]

South Florida, Check this out, this is what you are talking about.  CALLMEJORGE posted this from FUSION in another thread. that show just how badly the Dem leadership got outmanuevered and outsmarted. 

[South Florida]

Thanks for the history lesson.  Looking forward to confirmation hearings.

[South Florida]

Sanders and Warren are not disappearing from the fray for a minute.  Is that the strategy that is inevitably going to happen, or is it just the force of nature.  Have these two become the faces of the Democrats that will take us to 2020?  Is that a good or bad thing?

[madbrian]

I've been paying a lot of attention to Kamala Harris, they new senator from CA.  She was their AG before running for the Senate.

[PalJoey]

 

Stop focusing on "getting rid" of moderates and start focusing on winning elections. As long as moderates and progressives continue to fight, the GOP will continue to win.

A split party loses elections. Period. That's the only truth about politics. You either get out the vote--with enthusiasm--or you lose. And you lose big. 

All I care about is winning elections. That's all. You don't like Nancy Pelosi or Keith Ellison or Cory Booker? I don't give a shIt. You get one chance to unseat them: in their local primaries. Then STFU and get behind the Democrat candidate--or else the Republican will win. Every time.

There's only one reason the GOP and the Koch Brothers "cross lines" to fund third parties: to split liberals down the middle into two warring parties.

You wanna whine on and on about how the moderates are in the pockets of whoever the F*CK you think they're in the pockets of? I say look what our discord did: It put Goldman Sachs on the Cabinet and homophobes, racists, and misogynists all over the federal and state governments.

You want to elect more progressives? Fine. More power to you. But stop weakening the Democratic Party. All you're doing is voting in Republicans.

 

[South Florida]

You are continuing last summers rant, you've learned nothing.

[javero]

"All I care about is winning elections. That's all. You don't like Nancy Pelosi or Keith Ellison or Cory Booker? I don't give a shIt."

You're not going to win sh!t at the national level with either of those three in a visible role during the swimsuit portion...too many negatives.  Their appeal is limited outside their respective lanes.  At the moment, Tim Ryan and Tammy Duckworth hold the most promise as running mates for a sitting-governor-potus-nominee, but neither has any "executive experience".  Time is no longer on Elizabeth Warren's side.  Kamala Harris as the next attorney general is a no-brainer.

Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe wouldn't be my first choice but he's the best thing the Dems got going for them right now, followed by Louisiana governor John Bel Edwards.  McAuliffe bumps up against term limits next year which should free him to launch an early exploratory committee.  Unfortunately, his ties to the Clintons could be a liability.  J.B. Edwards is rather popular in the southeast where the Dems struggle mightily.  I personally don't believe that a federal lawmaker at the top of the ticket can duplicate Obama's success.

[adamgreer]

I personally don't think another old white southerner is the answer, but if either of those men becomes the nominee, I'd be behind them 100% because of everything the wise PJ said above.  For the record, I don't think Cory Booker is, either. Head over to data lounge and see what fun the Republicans would have with his "down low" homosexual dalliances. The man should just come out already, so they can't use that against him. 

At the moment I'm really enamored with Jerry Brown out in California, but I doubt he has any interest in the White House. 

[javero]

I get where you're coming from adamgreer but in 3 years McAullife will turn 63 and J.B. Edwards 53.  That places both in the sweet spot for potus runs.  Beyond that, they bump into questions that plagued Reagan, Hillary, and Trump.  Bill Clinton and Obama's relative youth worked in their favor.

Take this with a grain of salt, but a lil' twang goes a long way in the run to the White House.  After Trump's in-your-face over-enunciated-nyc-delivery, the electorate will crave a folksy candidate with a silver tongue & soothing demeanor.

RE: Jerry Brown, if he had only come along 15 years sooner I would rank him as the 2nd most prepared candidate for POTUS ever.

PJ will be pleased to learn that I believe that Gavin Newsome was born to be POTUS.  He has the right mix of smarts, compassion, executive experience, optics, and wife with similar attributes.  Gavin already has a national profile.  This thread has me now thinking that he's Obama's natural successor.

[madbrian]

Based on the atmosphere at the Women's March, I think we will finally be ready for a woman in 2020, and that's why I'm bullish on Kamala Harris.  She'll be 55, and her background as an AG should help.Her racial mix of Jamaican/Indian could fuse a lot of factions.  Also, her background as a prosecutor could make her a fantastic debater.

[javero]

ok madbrian...gimme either Kamala or Gavin in 2020.  But, for the love of all that is holy...no Elizabeth Warren or Corey Booker.  And just to clarify things, I'd readily vote for a non-hetero candidate for political office but the electorate will absolutely demand to know a national candidate's bent with absolute certainty in 2020.  It's unfortunate that both Corey Booker and Lindsey Graham have to pass that particular purity test.

[South Florida]

Is there some kind of secret society that knows who is gay?

[PalJoey]

 

As Tallulah Bankhead famously quipped, "I don't know, dahling, he never sucked MY cock."

 

[South Florida]

That explains nothing to me PJ.

 

[PalJoey]

 

Point proven.

[South Florida]

Should I feel shame?

[South Florida]

CLINTON 2020