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g.d.e.l.g.i.
#50Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 3:02pm

^ Which is what I was referring to. In other words, does PJ view this as the stage plot, or that proposed plot, in his head?


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CarlosAlberto
#51Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 3:03pm

Gwyneth Paltrow as Phyllis...hmmm, will she better her mother's take on the character from that ill-fated Roundabout revival?

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PalJoey
#52Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 3:04pm



Well, if Judy had lived a few more years, it could have been filmed the year after Follies opened on Broadway in 1971, and the movie would have been about a reunion 30 years after the final (sort of) Ziegfeld Follies of 1943.

It could have been a revival as well for the Freed Unit of MGM.

Judy would have outshown Dolores Gray for the Oscar that year, and Gene Kelly would have bested Donald O'Connor.

Bette Davis's "Broadway Baby" would have inspired a generation of drag queens, and everyone would have absolutely hated Joan Crawford's croaking of "I'm Still Here"...everyone except Steve Sondheim, of course, who would have pronounced it "definitive."

Liz Taylor's surprisingly flawless French accent and even more surprisingly tuneful rendition of "Ah, Paris!" would have resulted in a comeback of sorts.

But the big shocker of the film would have been the dazzling performance of Vivian Vance in the role of Stella, doing the original Michael Bennett choreography for "Who's That Woman," and winning her her only Oscar nomination and award, for best supporting actress. The award would have been presented to her by...Lucille Ball.



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Wynbish
#53Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 3:09pm

Kathleen Battle or Jessye Norman would be great as Heidi. Love their voices. Kathleen has more of a lyric soprano, and Jessye has more of a dramatic soprano.

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lovebwy
#54Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 3:11pm

Pal Joey that sounds like a fever dream of Follies. And I LOVE it!!!

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The Josh
#55Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 3:21pm

Meryl Streep as Phyllis
Helena Bonham Carter as Sally
Alec Baldwin as Ben
John C Reilly as Buddy

Gothampc
#56Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 3:40pm

Word on the street is that Barbra Streisand bought the rights and she will play a combined character of Sally and Phyllis. She will take Buddy as her husband and Ben will show up as a widower trying to woo Sally-Phyll.

"Broadway Baby" will be performed by Barbra as a flashback of Sally-Phyll performing the song in vaudeville.

Carlotta will begin the first notes of "I'm Still Here" at the piano and Sally-Phyll will take the song over and bring it to a rousing conclusion.

"Who's That Woman" will be a song for Sally-Phyll done in front of a mirror in the dressing room. Streisand wants to use clips from the movie "Funny Girl" during the "Who's That Woman" montage.

"Losing My Mind" will be reconceived as a song Barbra sings to the "ghost" audience.

"Ah, But Underneath" will replace all the other incarnations and will fit in the show after Sally-Phyll rejects Ben's advances.


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PianoMann
#57Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 3:41pm

Honestly, I would much prefer to see Follies done as a small independent film with a cast of character actors / unknowns who are perfectly suited for the roles. Some musicals benefit from huge Hollywood treatment, but I think that is the entirely wrong approach for Follies.

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Sally Durant Plummer
#58Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 4:22pm

Did anybody SEE the Oscars? CZJ's voice was shot and sung "Jazz" down about half an octave. And that was only a 30 second cut.

And after that "performance" (is that what they call it nowadays?) of "Send In the Clowns", I'll wager anything I have that I made the right choice in waiting until Bernadette and Stritch took over to see it. CZJ can take a break from musicals - forever.

Follies needs to be done as a grand, lavish, old-school MGM Musical. None of that gritty "realistic" approach that is so popular nowadays. Open up the entire theatre and get some scenes in the lobby, or the wings, or even backstage. The ghosts need to be people - not CGI, not any film tricks, just people. For the follies sequence - I want lavish costumes with obviously painted backdrops - in the vein of the recorded Ziegfeld Follies.
In a perfect world, all of the roles would be played by stage veterans - and the ghosts by unknowns.

My dream cast:

Sally - Bernadette Peters
Phyllis - Toni Colette
Ben - Ron Raines
Buddy - Danny Burnstein
Carlotta - Patti LuPone
Stella - Tonya Pinkins
Heidi - Barbara Cook
Hattie - Barbara Harris
Solange - Leslie Uggams

I think Heidi should be older, like Mrs. Cook, but Harris and Uggams may be too old. Wherever, it's my dream!


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Updated On: 8/7/14 at 04:22 PM

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best12bars
#59Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 4:54pm

I'm hoping for an all-Muppets "Follies." That would be easier to cast.


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binau
#60Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 5:00pm

tbh I don't think CZJ's performance of Clowns in the show itself was as bad as the Tony performance (but obviously Bernadette's performance was leagues better).

Sally - Bernadette Peters

Of the choices listed so far Bernadette is actually one of the few people who will be able to sing the role. A studio will only help her this time round, and it would be great to see a musical that casts genuine singers. It would be great to introduce her to the public once more so that she can truly demonstrate what it is like to act a song. With a more heavy-handed director, she could adapt her performance slightly for film (e.g., get rid of "I. don't. have. to. fight etc." line). She isn't a film star anymore but she is still a little bit of a name.

Phyllis - Meryl Streep

Meryl Streep is cast in everything and might not be a perfect 'fit' for the role, but she is a great actress, Bernadette's age and a box-office powerweight.

Carlotta - Patti LuPone

Again back to the "genuine singers" idea Patti will belt the **** out of this song.

Hattie - Angela Lansbury

Yes!! Sure a little bit too old but I can just imagine her eyes in "Broadway Baby".


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WIth the right cast this film will be so exciting, Rob Marshall's schtick could make this work (I'm imaging cut scenes to ghosts, almost like flashbacks rather than they always being there).



"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 8/7/14 at 05:00 PM

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SweeneyLovett
#61Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 5:27pm

Barbara Harris as Hattie? YES! PLEASE!

Whoever suggested Winona Ryder as Sally, please marry me. I hadn't thought of her at all, but she'd be brilliant. I doubt she can sing, but her acting would be terrific.

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theeatah
#62Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 5:39pm

That's quite a fever dream where Bette Davis sang better than Joan Crawford (neither were singers, but Crawford had the more pleasant tone). I would love to have seen Dolores Gray's Lucy and Jessie in her "The Body" prime, though.

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MichelleCraig
#63Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 6:16pm

"People who enjoy musicals and mothers with children will go to see it."

What child would want to see FOLLIES? Just sayin'...

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Sally Durant Plummer
#64Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 6:19pm

My 10 year old self. I knew every note of the OBC when I was 9.


"Sticks and stones, sister. Here, have a Valium." - Patti LuPone, a Memoir

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MichelleCraig
#65Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 6:33pm

...come to think of it, I did see it at 13. That probably explains a lot.

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lovebwy
#66Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 6:40pm

There was talk of taping the 2011 revival for PBS but that c word Mrs. Goldman put an end to THAT!

I think it's the best idea. I think Follies belongs on stage.

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#67Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 8:23pm

I'm surprised no one has brought up the idea of Goldie Hawn as Sally. She may be a bit too old now but she's a good singer, close to the right age, and may even be a draw. Steve Martin or Woody Allen as Buddy. Mia Farrow as Phyllis perhaps.

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MichelleCraig
#68Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 8:32pm

Goldie Hawn is 68. At the close of the show, Sally announces that she is 49.

Updated On: 8/7/14 at 08:32 PM

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jewishboy
#69Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 8:53pm

It is kind of unbelievable that there is not one A/B list movie actress of the right age who can play Sally. And not only vocally, but also type. Meryl has the voice for it, I think, but she is just not right for it (and too old). I really can't think of anybody. Sissy Spacek, Sally Field, Diane Keaton and others are just too old.

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Musical Master
#70Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 8:56pm

Laura Osnes would be a perfect young Sally.

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binau
#71Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 8:56pm

Meryl does not have the voice for Sally. Not even close. Did you watch Mamma Mia!?


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

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jewishboy
#72Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 9:06pm

I have heard Meryl sing live and she used her upper register. She has it, or had it (this was at least 7 years ago). What about Calista Flockhart? She sung on Ally McBeal, but was definitely playing it as if Ally couldn't sing. Can Marisa Tomei sing? Or Holly Hunter maybe? Still, those three are not big enough to star in this probably.

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best12bars
#73Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 9:13pm

The thing is if you're looking to cast it age-appropriate, you better start looking at Jodie Foster, Hillary Swank, Sandra Bullock, Julia Roberts, etc.

Not the 60-70 year old set.


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henrikegerman
#74Follies Movie Dream Cast
Posted: 8/7/14 at 9:23pm

How about:

Brooke Shields as Phyllis and Juliette Lewis as Sally?