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"Into the Woods" Movie Changes

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#126Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 1:30pm

It seems the studio reacted, and fast, to social media. "Any Moment," just as Sondheim originally stated, was not in the most recent screening. Wow. I guess Disney actually is listening?

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#127Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 1:30pm

Woohoo! Thank you, Sondheim.

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#128Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 1:41pm

I hope he's right that it's a first-rate movie. Nice to hear one of the best songs in the show remains.


"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"

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#129Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 1:43pm

Soooooooooooooooooo relieved!!!!


....but the world goes 'round

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#130Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 1:55pm

Ray - You think the prince's "Any Moment" is one of the best songs in the show? "Moments in the Woods," yes. But "Any Moment"?

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#131Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 2:13pm

It is one of the best songs in the show.


....but the world goes 'round

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#132Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 2:20pm

Taz. Huh?! I thought it was always cute and I realize it's an important turning point in the show, but always kind of felt like it was a throwaway song. Musically, I mean. It doesn't stand out to me and it's only about 1 minute and 45 seconds. Especially when I compare it to the wonderful "Moments in the Woods," which I completely love. So funny. I never really thought of it as being a song that some would consider the best.

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#133Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 2:26pm

Count me in as someone who's surprised people think "Any Moment" is one of the best parts of the score. It's clever and funny, but certainly not something I'd hesitate cutting for time if I were adapting the work. For me, it plays like an extended intro for "Moments in the Woods."


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#134Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 2:28pm

I'm with you, Kad. It always felt like an interlude to Moment in the Woods, to me.

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#135Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 2:40pm

We'll get Rapunzel killed yet!

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#136Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 2:42pm

Although I don't think it's the best song in the show, I do love when the Baker's Wife sings "This is ridiculous, what am I doing here? I'm in the wrong story!"

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#137Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 2:57pm

As I said before I was surprised someone said "Any Moment" is the best song in the show... I think the only thing it does do (which doesn't happen in other instances) is move the plot along.

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#138Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 3:08pm

'I think the only thing it does do (which doesn't happen in other instances) is move the plot along.'

You realize that's not a small thing though, right? Particularly in a show filled with songs where the actors park and bark the lessons they learned off stage. It certainly could be replaced by dialogue, and that's fine...but the entire seduction of The Baker's Wife is done in this song. I'd argue it's important and really quite wonderful.

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#139Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 3:12pm

Agreed, Robbie. Is it one of the "best" songs, though? Perhaps one of the most "important" could be more accurate?

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#140Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 3:17pm

I read a brilliant suggestion concerning this movie in an article...

If this movie turns out to be bad or a flop, someone needs to do a parody of the song "Your Fault", where Sondheim, Lapine, and Disney Executives blame each other for the movie's failure.

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#141Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 3:56pm

I can happily report that it is not only a faithful adaptation of the show, it is a first-rate movie. ~ Stephen Sondheim

Why do I have this image of Mickey Mouse holding a gun to his head as he is at a computer writing this?

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#142Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/23/14 at 5:22pm

Reminds me of Anne Rice squawking to the press her displeasure about Tom Cruise being cast as Lestat. Then, a couple of months before the release, she changed her tune and publicly praised the choice. A commentator quipped "someone must have explained profit sharing and gross percentages to Ms. Rice." Made me laugh...

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#143Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/24/14 at 1:03am

Thank goodness about this news!

Oh, and thank you Best12bars, but if the "Witch's Lament" leads into the new song, aren't there still some of those "Lament" lyrics which now won't make sense? At what point does she sing the song anyway?

FindingNamo
#144Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/24/14 at 1:11am

Nobody has even talked about how mean it is they made Meryl look like Helena Bonham Carter for the hag sequences.


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#145Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/24/14 at 6:27am

but if the "Witch's Lament" leads into the new song, aren't there still some of those "Lament" lyrics which now won't make sense? At what point does she sing the song anyway?

SPOILERS
According to the leaked script it's in the same spot, just that instead of running off stage to get squished by the giant, Rapunzel tells the witch AND the prince to basically F-off, steals his horse and leaves the kingdom. The prince goes after her but the witch stands there and sings...

This is the world I meant. Couldn't you listen?
Couldn't you stay content, safe behind walls, as I could not?
No matter what you say, children won't listen.
No matter what you know, children refuse to learn.
Guide them along the way, still they won't listen.
Children can only grow from something you love to something you lose...

...INTO NEW SONG FOR THE WITCH

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#146Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/24/14 at 7:16am



EDITED in an attempt to fix all the crazy bold. Sorry if it looked like I was shouting. Nope didn't work. Carry on ... wait! Double html end-tags for "bold" did the trick.



Thanks for the clarification (previously). I think I've always thought of "Any Moment" and "Moments in the Woods" as a continuation of the same song, rather than two (shorter) separate songs that fit together.

There are a lot of short songs that blend together in this musical, which is one of the things I like most about it. No six-minute arias or eight verses to a song.


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#147Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/24/14 at 7:27am

As I said before I was surprised someone said "Any Moment" is the best song in the show

Reading comprehension warning: If you read what I wrote, I never said it was the best song in the show, I said I thought of it as one of the best songs in the show. I think the way the Prince archetype gets turned upside its head (in a different context than earlier in the show) is clever, and I love the rhymes and lyrics Sondheim came up with for this number. It's another seduction number that ties in with "Hello, Little Girl," sung earlier by the same actor (as originally conceived). I think without "Any Moment," the payoff from "Moments in the Woods" is not as strong, and in that way, I agree with Besty's idea that the songs are a continuation of the same song. I think the impact of one depends on the strength of the other.
I'm also a fan of Bernadette Peters' performance of the song on her Carnegie Mellon record. Fantastic rendition.




"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
Updated On: 6/24/14 at 07:27 AM

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#148Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/24/14 at 7:29am





....but the world goes 'round
Updated On: 6/24/14 at 07:29 AM

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#149Stephen Sondheim Inc
Posted: 6/24/14 at 8:40am

Hmmm... That's a fair point, Ray. But I don't know that replacing the song with dialogue would take all that much away from "Moments In The Woods." I guess we'll never know now, though. Stephen Sondheim Inc