Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way

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#1Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 12:15am

Sorry for starting another WOODS thread, but that Phantom London person's thread is not worth discussing this in.

Riedel is EXTRA nasty here. He conveniently ignores the fact that the production received several rave/positive reviews. And before someone says it, I'm aware that there is only one review that matters.


http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/theater/no_woods_on_way_9EqHlkG23oYVMMi5JZOV2O

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#2Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 12:19am

I will say that he has Eustis pegged. That man will do anything to get a show on Broadway. Other than that, I wonder if his sources are the same ones that told him all about those theatre switches that never came to fruition.

The last line of the article is quite funny. I wondered the same thing when I read about the "high demand" quote in the Times.


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#2Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 12:21am

I was just coming here to post this. That article is Riedel at his BEST. He's nasty, but he's RIGHT.


"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

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#3Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 12:22am

Riedel is such a Debbie Downer Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way


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#4Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 12:23am

So Riedel fancies himself a lyricist now? He should leave the parody work to Gerard Alessandrini.

bk
#5Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 12:26am

But he's right here. It's all PR horse manure. Joey Parnes has not dime one, there is no offering, no papers, no plan - he's just putting it out there, gets his name in the press and because of it gets his deserved ridicule from Riedel.

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#6Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 12:27am

Good. I hope when the show does come back to Broadway they do it as written without the God awful changes.

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#7Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 12:37am

I don't know if anyone else saw Amy Adams' appearance on Live With Kelly last week, but when Nick Lachey (who was guest co-hosting) asked her if this experience has made her want to do a show on Broadway, she was very awkward in responding. She paused for an inordinate amount of time before saying, "Um... I'll think about it. I'll definitely think about it. Right now, I'm so focused on this, and then, um -- I've got a few films coming out, but I'd love to, yeah. I'd like to do something dancey. Something real... showey."

For what it's worth, I've heard similar things to what Reidel's reporting, which is nothing particularly new: Joey Parnes is trying to use the Times piece to drum up interest from investors, but no one wants to go near the show. While Adams has apparently been the definition of lovely to work with, as Reidel says, I've heard she has no interest in moving forward with the show, if it really does go anywhere. Her schedule doesn't really afford her the opportunity to commit to another run anyway, but the person I spoke to got the impression that she's walking away from this experience feeling very burnt out and emotionally exhausted. She wasn't well prepared at all for the demands that are presented by putting up a show in the park, and all the drama behind the scenes throughout the rehearsal and preview period really took a toll on her, as I'm sure it did for everyone.

And as harsh as Reidel may be, his criticisms of Oskar Eustis's Broadway ambitions going against the essential mission of The Public are very valid. I'm surprised he didn't mention THE MOTHERF*CKER WITH THE HAT, which was another show that was supposed to happen downtown before Eustis moved it to Broadway when they were able to land a viable film star. There have also been similar rumors that Eustis has Broadway hopes for GIANT, though that's about as uncommercially friendly a piece as I've ever seen.


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Updated On: 8/15/12 at 12:37 AM

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#8Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 12:54am

I certainly love this production and would hope that a transfer will take place for the audience's who may not be able to see it during its limited park run....

However, this production is truly magical and "at home" in the park. I feel the two go hand in hand.

I do find Riedel amusing, although it's very obvious he loves to hear himself talk.

I do agree, that although Adams had some lovely moments (no pun intended) while singing, her performance left too much to be desired. Although during both viewings I was still rooting for her, I feel that if she cannot transfer with the production (if it does) then there is no loss. Recast another actress.



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#9Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 1:08am

While GIANT may not be commercial, neither was BRING IN DA NOISE nor PASSING STRANGE. But the Public transferred those to Broadway.

To transfer this production of INTO THE WOODS to the Delacorte was ambitious. It fits SO well, and it makes perfect sense to produce at that venue. I'm proud that the Public produced this production. It's understandable that there would be a tight and difficult schedule to get the production up. It seems that schedule may have taken a toll on the actors, as per the reports about Amy Adams and Donna Murphy.

I don't think you can do this production in a Broadway theater and still retain its awe and atmospheric wonderment that the outdoor venue provides. It just wouldn't be the same.

In addition, in a season that is already packed with high-profile productions, I question that there is "room" for INTO THE WOODS on Broadway this Spring. Too much competition to take away from its box office.

The Public did right by producing INTO THE WOODS at the Delacorte. Now let it end and move onto the next show.


"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle

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#10Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 1:09am

Please cancel at least one of those awful holiday shows and bring Woods to Broadway. No matter how bad this production of ITW is I'm sure it will be much more enjoyable than those holidays fluff fests.

Updated On: 8/15/12 at 01:09 AM

FlowerChild67
#11Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 1:13am

Or it's not going to Broadway because of the fact that from what I've seen of it (which, granted, is just photos and a few videos), it relies very heavily on the whole "outdoor" aspect of it, so some major changes would have to be made to move it to an actual theater. Just my opinion, but again, I have not seen it live- unfortunately....

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#12Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 1:23am

The two major 'stars' Murphy and Adams also have commitments for this spring so they may have to recast.

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#13Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 1:32am

I feel also he is spot on about Eustis (and I said it somewhere a few days ago).
The Public, (like every other theatre company) needs money to do ALL the smaller projects they do, but you can't force something on the paying audiences, they have to find it and make it a hot ticket.
It must be hard to walk the lines of Art and Commerce.

I'm still amazed that the director didn't see the pratfalls of this production and plan accordingly. When I saw it again this week, after that first preview, they did fix a lot, but it just isn't up to the great score and book.

JeanGudio
#14Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 3:30am

Kelli o Hara would be good in the amy adams roll and the audul women is spring awk would be good as the witch. All they have to do is fix the whole revival

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#15Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 4:38am

I have a like-hate relationship with Riedel's column. In this case, I have have to agree with him. Eustis seems to have an obsession with Broadway, and though he's a fine dramaturg and all, he ought to stick with putting on exciting and quality work downtown, and not worrying about Broadway.

It was a good move for the summer. As CapnHook said, end it.

JeanGudio
#16Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 7:45am

some shows do not belong on bway they may be good works but do not belong bbaj was one

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#17Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 8:26am

Bitchy, nasty, venomous and 100% correct.


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#18Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 8:33am

The truth often hurts.
Great article.

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#19Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 8:38am

Why is GIANT, a musical based on an epic novel which was a popular Hollywood movie, be non-commercial? It would seem to be the first R&H type new musical in decades.

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#20Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 8:41am

To anyone really listening, the only thing Joey Parnes' announcement accomplished was to confirm the fact that this production isn't transferring.


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#21Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 8:41am

double post


"Tracy... Hold Mama's waffles."
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#22Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 8:47am


"Why is GIANT, a musical based on an epic novel which was a popular Hollywood movie, be non-commercial? It would seem to be the first R&H type new musical in decades."

Because it's LaChiusa.


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#23Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 9:02am

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and I think its Riedel's time of the day... from all accounts I've read and people I've talked to, transferring this to Broadway is not a good idea and all this talk is simply to lure the money in.

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#24Riedel: No 'Woods' on B'way
Posted: 8/15/12 at 10:33am

I wish we'd get more gossip about what Sondheim & Lapine think about this production. Like actual details and stuff.