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BAT OUT OF HELL Will Play 8 Weeks At NY City Center In 2019

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Posted: 8/22/19 at 10:05am

I think Rocky Horror is far more successful as a fully realized piece of musical theatre than Bat Out of Hell in nearly every conceivable way. 

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Posted: 8/22/19 at 10:13am

Lot666 said: "g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "Rocky Horror could, but not successfully; it flopped both times round."

It's not fair to equate financial failure with "this show has no place on Broadway". There have been numerous shows over the years that failed financially, but still had merit.

g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "this rock concert masquerading as a revue"

Bruce Springsteen, Morrissey, and now Barry Manilow have staged "concerts masquerading as revues" of their respective catalogs on Broadway.
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Sorry that g.d.e.l.g.l has to carry so much emotional baggage re this show, yet still isn't curious enough to even deign to see it.  I have no such investment, only a love of the original album, and I had a blast.  Perhaps he/she also doesn't care for sheer, unadulterated camp.  That IMHO is what the show embodies.  And how the cast can sing!  

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Posted: 8/22/19 at 10:19am

Sho-Tunes-R-Us said: "Lot666 said: "g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "Rocky Horror could, but not successfully; it flopped both times round."

It's not fair to equate financial failure with "this show has no place on Broadway". There have been numerous shows over the years that failed financially, but still had merit.

g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "this rock concert masquerading as a revue"

Bruce Springsteen, Morrissey, and now Barry Manilow have staged "concerts masquerading as revues" of their respective catalogs on Broadway.
"

Sorry that g.d.e.l.g.l has to carry so much emotional baggage re this show, yet still isn't curious enough to even deign to see it. I have no such investment, only a love of the original album, and I had a blast. Perhaps he/she also doesn't care for sheer, unadulterated camp. That IMHO is what the show embodies. And how the cast can sing!
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Were you able to go back Wednesday?

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Posted: 8/22/19 at 11:09am

Lot666 said: "Bruce Springsteen, Morrissey, and now Barry Manilow have staged "concerts masquerading as revues" of their respective catalogs on Broadway."

Categorically wrong. They were never advertised as book musicals or revues. You bought a ticket to Springsteen, Morrissey (though dear God, why would you, the weepy bastard), or Manilow, you know what you were expecting. Whatever they want you to believe, calling Bat a book musical with a straight face, especially in its present state, is a bit much.

As for my emotional baggage, Sho-Tunes... well, yes, I have some, and frankly I'm surprised more of Jim's fans with intimate knowledge of what led here aren't as bothered. My only conclusion is that if someone with my level of knowledge and baggage is happy with it, it's because they're ecstatic that some version of it actually made it to the public eye in their lifetime. In addition to the earlier incarnations of the show that I've linked, I've seen and heard bootlegs of this version, and read five drafts of the script ranging from 2014 to fairly close to the present (their ship has more leaks than a sieve). I'm fully aware of (at least some of) what I'd see, and, bolstered by most of the opinions in this thread, I'm all set with buying a ticket to that.

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Posted: 8/22/19 at 11:37am
Is a book musical, no doubt about it. Very much in the vein of Mamma Mia. Songs listed in the program, but not in any particular order.

I did return a second time Wednesday night. Met with Bradley Dean, received a backstage tour, met other cast members and had a photo taken. Still can't figure how to post the damn thing.
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Posted: 8/22/19 at 11:37am

g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "Lot666 said: "Bruce Springsteen, Morrissey, and now Barry Manilow have staged "concerts masquerading as revues" of their respective catalogs on Broadway."

Categorically wrong. They were never advertised as book musicals or revues. You bought a ticket to Springsteen, Morrissey (though dear God, why would you, the weepy bastard), or Manilow, you know what you were expecting. Whatever they expect you to believe, calling Bat a book musical is a bit much.
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I feel like you're missing my point, and perhaps intentionally, so that you can shoehorn your irrelevant distaste for Bat into the conversation. This exchange began from the statement, "Bat Out of Hell has no place on Broadway", which was made by bwayphreak234. I questioned why he/she would say such a thing, when The  Rocky Horror Show ran on Broadway. You attempted to argue that this was an invalid comparison because Rocky Horror was not "successful", and you described Bat as a "rock concert masquerading as a revue". I noted that financial failure should not be used as a measurement of worth, and also that other pop/rock performers have been doing Broadway residencies of late. My original statement, to which you replied at length and with considerable deviation from my point, was simply that it's not fair to say that "Bat Out of Hell has no place on Broadway" when other, similarly campy and crazy productions have been staged on Broadway, as well as revues by pop/rock performers.

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Posted: 8/22/19 at 12:57pm
Wish we could get Love Never Dies here
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Posted: 8/22/19 at 1:34pm

Sho-Tunes-R-Us said: "Met with Bradley Dean, received a backstage tour, met other cast members and had a photo taken."

I spoke with him after the show for a bit, and he was very nice. He told me about his next (not yet officially announced role) after Bat and I was over the moon.

 

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