New ALW Phantom Musical

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SpellingBeeFan4Ever
#25re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 1:50pm

RENT 2 - Mimi dies of aids a week after she is found. Roger writes her a new song in that week then she tells him to **** off. He kills himself. Maureen and Joanne run off to Florida. Benny dumps Allison and runs off with Collins. Mark is left alone.


This could work. Who cares if Jonathan Larson is dead.


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#26re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 1:53pm

I second the opinion that the novel it is based on "Phantom in Manhattan" is a really bad book. I'm a PTO fan but a sequal is dumb. Eric disappeared at the end of the show and it should be left at that. We do not need to know what happened after that. Leave the mystery.


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JRybka
#27re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 2:04pm

How about The Phantom could become a vaudville star and do shows with all the stars of yesteryear...

The Phantom Phollies!


"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. It seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around."

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Mister Matt
#28re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 2:07pm

The last successful new show he had on Broadway was in 1993.

Which one was that? Joseph toured well, but the Broadway production flopped and it wasn't a "new show". Sunset Boulevard opened in November of 1994 and ran almost three years closing to a huge financial loss. The last hit Lloyd Webber had on Broadway is the still-running Phantom of the Opera which opened in 1988, meaning he has only had one show to gain a profit on Broadway in the last 20 years, though it has probably made up for the losses he took on all the others plus any future shows for the next 20-odd years. He can probably afford to play around with new ideas, good or bad, for quite some time.

What happened to that other show he was working on? The red somethingorother?


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JRybka
#29re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 2:09pm

Funny I recall Joseph was in NYC for a bit.. It is a cheap show to produce...


"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. It seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around."

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The White Half-Mask
#30re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 3:37pm

I keep hoping that this dies before it ever reaches the stage. It just sounds like a horrible idea, IMO. I feel that the ending of the original TPOTO is just perfect the way it is, and no continuation of the story is needed. It just sounds like a cheap attempt to make money to me. Here's hoping that wonderful kitten deletes the score again.

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LizzieCurry
#31re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 3:40pm

Then don't go.


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PhantomTango1
#32re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 3:42pm

Wonderful kitten got run over by a car not long after he deleted the score.

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#33re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 3:51pm

Mr.Matt: I was referring to Sunset Blvd as my reference. I thought it had recouped (which would make it successful by Broadway's failure rate for new productions). But I don't think Phantom was his only show to gain a profit. I'm pretty sure Cats recouped. :p


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SporkGoddess
#34re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 4:35pm

I wonder if it will flop because every Phantom fan pretty much universally hates The Phantom of Manhatten.


Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!

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PhantomTango1
#35re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 4:42pm

I would have thought that the bad vibes from nearly every Phantom fan hating on "The Phantom of Manhattan" would have stopped the project by now. Guess not.

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JRybka
#36re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 4:43pm

He really did some neat stuff with Whistle and also the beautiful game.. and some people were very into the whole Woman in White show... I hope that he can find his way again...


"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. It seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around."

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BroadwayEnthusiast2
#37re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 4:46pm

Tim Rice is no longer writing the lyrics, Glenn Slater is.


Oh, dear


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Mister Matt
#38re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 5:37pm

But I don't think Phantom was his only show to gain a profit. I'm pretty sure Cats recouped.

You're absolutely right, but I was referring to Lloyd Webber's last Broadway hit, not his only Broadway hit. Cats opened in 1982.


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Trap-Door Lover
#39re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 6:20pm

Ugh. Glenn Slater? Really?
He could have his pick of anyone and he picks Glenn Slater whose credits are a flopped Disney movie and the new songs in The Little Mermaid. The lyrics for the new songs are terrible.
Why doesn't anyone stop Andrew?? If the fans aren't on board, it really will flop. The only ones who will go see it will be the Japanese tourists (like the ones who sat behind me at Woman in White who didn't speak English and burped throughout the show).

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phantomo88
#40re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 8:59pm

"How about The Phantom could become a vaudville star and do shows with all the stars of yesteryear...

The Phantom Phollies!"

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#41re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/26/08 at 9:13pm

I had mentioned this to a couple of cast members this past saturday afternoon when I had saw the show. Even they thought it was a very bad idea.


Personally, I find this to be such a bad idea that I can't even fathom the thought that this is actually being created on in the first place.

And, If I recall correctly Webber not only wanted to open this show in NYC (his reasoning was that they opened the original Phantom in London so NYC gets the sequel.) And, that he wants to keep the original Phantom open while this is playing. In hopes that people will see the original and then wonder what happens next and then go see Phantom II. Keep in mind this sounds like a good idea in theory. But, then again everything sounds like a good idea in theory. It is when the idea is put forth that makes it a bad one or not.


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puppetman2
#42re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/29/08 at 12:01am

I hope when he previews it at his theatre on his estate, as he usually does, that he will see it is not a good idea and will abandon it. re: New ALW Phantom Musical


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SporkGoddess
#43re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/29/08 at 1:10am

At least now the lyrics may be so bad that they make the music seem good by comparison.


Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!

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Not Barker, Todd.
#44re: New ALW Phantom Musical
Posted: 3/29/08 at 1:37am

Well there goes Glenn Slater's career.


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