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7 years later, little is still understood about the shooting of Trayvon Martin
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7 years later, little is still understood about the shooting of Trayvon Martin#26
Posted: 3/6/19 at 2:34pm

sabrelady said: "Again so sad that this is agenda is what you are spending your time pursuing . <<edited by BWW staff>>There is so much more to the world but not to you there is only (poorly disguised as rational argument) RACIAL issues specifically how persons not of color are being denied their rights and privileges, when it is the exact opposite for 98%. <<edited by BWW staff>> May G*d bring you enlightenment and peace to your <<edited by BWW staff>>. G*d's mercies be upon upon you soonest."

The subject is interesting, and I believe a lot of other people find it interesting too.  That people who disagree with my opinion about a verdict are unwilling to engage in a discussion about relevant evidence (not a discussion about race) is what is surprising.  I have made no mention of race and have not implied I want the discussion to be about race.  That people believe I'm racist based solely on my opinion about this one case, a case where there is a truck load of evidence that has nothing to do with race, is what should raise eyebrows and wishes of enlightenment.  If people wish to discuss the racial aspect, and I acknowledge there is a racial aspect, I'm willing to have that discussion.  But that's not the discussion I invited.

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7 years later, little is still understood about the shooting of Trayvon Martin#27
Posted: 3/6/19 at 2:40pm

dramamama611 said: "To the OP: this is why most are not fully engaging with you ----

“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Mark Twain"

Am I a fool for wanting to engage in a conversation about evidence in a controversial case, or am I a fool for believing what I believe about the evidence?

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7 years later, little is still understood about the shooting of Trayvon Martin#28
Posted: 3/6/19 at 2:46pm

Pauly3 said: "Am I a fool for wanting to engage in a conversation about evidence in a controversial case, or am I a fool for believing what I believe about the evidence?"

These are the only two choices?

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7 years later, little is still understood about the shooting of Trayvon Martin#29
Posted: 3/6/19 at 11:39pm

I have an offer.  My wish is to discuss the case with reasonable people, and most of you (so it appears) wants me to leave this alone.  I claim I have said nothing unreasonable in this thread, and yet most responses have been unreasonably unkind.  Despite that, I believe there are reasonable people here.  Here's the offer:

Pick out any single comment I have made in this thread about the evidence in the case, and then make a brief (or extensive) argument as to why that comment is untrue or unreasonable.  If you make a decent argument, I will leave this thread alone and never speak of this case here again.  No winner needs to be declared.  Just make a reasonable argument that demonstrates my comment was false or unreasonable - and allow me to respond to your argument.

 

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Posted: 3/13/19 at 2:03pm

It does not appear any discussion is going to happen here, which is OK.  So, I will leave it alone.  What's not OK is the behavior directed towards me simply because you disagree with my opinion about a verdict in a specific and controversial - and very confusing case.

With the breaking news of the college entrance fraud (yesterday), it got me (and many others) asking what are the kids being taught?  What kind of kids have these parents raised?  And what kind of kids are YOU raising?  What other kids are YOU influencing?

I wonder if your teenager was reading this thread topic along with you, and you said out loud what you have written here - or wrote your comment in front of your kid, what would your kid's reaction be?  Would it play out anything similar to this?

Mom/Dad:  "This Pauly guy is an idiot." (or whatever your choice of insult might be)

Kid:  "Why do you say that?"

Mom/Dad:  "Well, you probably don't remember the Zimmerman case, but Zimmerman is an awful human being and this Pauly moron is defending him."

Kid:  "But didn't he agree Zimmerman was a sleaze?  It looks more like he's concentrating on the evidence in the one case and defending how he arrived at his opinion.  He isn't rude and hasn't insulted anyone.  I don't understand why you and others are being so mean.  You would never teach me to behave this way."


The question for you Mom's and Dad's (and teachers and/or role models) is:  If the conversation with your kid was remotely similar, would you be disappointed in your kid - or maybe even insult your kid?  Or would you be proud of your kid?

 


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