Sara Bareilles Instagram Rant- Page 2

[schubox]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 11:30am

I too have a mixed feeling in bootlegs. I spend ALOT of money each year flying into NYC and seeing shows, and I never watch a bootleg instead of seeing a show, unless I physically cant get to NYC. And any instance of someone distracting an actor by recording is unacceptable, but like frankly, any professional bootlegger is not sitting in the front row using a camera phone. And theyre not sitting with their phone out distracting people during the show.

Ive wnjoyed being able to go back and re-watch shows Ive seen. Or see shows from before I could regularly attend. Of course I wish all shows were released on Netflix it Broadeay HD, but I know thats not reasonable.

I also understand the argument that these actors havent given consent to be filmed, and that bootlegs can and do sometimes cost shows money. But they can also allow them to make more. I know plenty of people who have watched a bootleg and decided they had to get tickets to see the show in person.

Its a tricky subject. Rising ticket costs and premium seats are only going to make bootlegs a more viable option. However, people breaking the bootleggers rules are causing the availabilty of bootlegs to be an issue anyway.

[Yankees02]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 11:58am

I think it's rude for people to be taking out phones at all, I went to American Son and this guy in the aisle in front of me had his phone out for at least 30 minutes. It was in the corner of my eye but took me out of the show

I didnt want to shout something out and cause more disturbance. 

[RWPrincess]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 12:07pm

I've been to several shows in the past month where I've seen ushers actively and repeatedly telling people to put their phones away. Different theaters on Broadway. So I feel like in this case if it was distracting Sara, it should have been visible enough to ushers or theater management. Hopefully she took this up with them after the show and they've put some new procedures in place.

As for bootlegs, I feel like most shows have gotten better at videos on social media and even traditional tv commercials. I saw an Anastasia commercial during Jimmy Fallon last night that basically covered every part of the show except for the ending. If I were show shopping, that video would have been more than enough to get me to the theater. I feel like if you are unable to get to the theater, that's a good use of a cast recording so that at least you can experience the music and even some dialogue in a legal way.

[robskynyc]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 12:25pm

I don't understand how the people around them don't say anything?! if I see a phone out during a show my inner Patti comes out and I'm like "yo put you ****ing phone away or ill put it away for you"

most people put it away. but I did snatch someones phone out of their hand at Chicago and throw it into the aisle.

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 12:27pm

Seems everyone has gone on a tangent about bootlegs. Per Sara herself, person wasn’t bootlegging the show but did so during her pivotal song. This audience member was sitting in the front row so it was impossible to not notice, hence how it distracted Sara.

Its quite obvious Sara would have taken action earlier if this person had her phone out and filming when the show started. Sara’s beef is about the fact that this person just whipped out her phone and just started filming when the song started as if no one could see her when everyone on stage could thus becoming an annoying distraction and breaking their concentration.

[JSquared2]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 12:37pm

robskynyc said: "I don't understand how the people around them don't say anything?! if I see a phone out during a show my inner Patti comes out and I'm like "yo put you ****ing phone away or ill put it away for you"

most people put it away. but I did snatch someones phone out of their hand at Chicago and throw it into the aisle."

Then I'd say it's only a matter of time before someone beats the sh"t out of you (and/or you are arrested).

 

[LarryD2]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 12:40pm

Wick3 said: "Maggie05 said: "Every time someone records a show, it is a total distraction to the people behind them. Each person has paid money to see and enjoy the full experience of immersing them selves in a Broadway show. The light from the phone recording distracts the eye and mind from what is happening on stage.

Theaters need to come together and solve this problem, because at almost every show I have been to this year (probably about 20) someone in front or next to me has taken out their phone, and checked their texts or tried to film something and it has ruined the moment for me and those around me. I have paid for my ticket, too, and another person doesn't have the right to take that experience from me. At some point, there is going to be a bad fight over this in a theater, and I will totally understand the rage. If you don't like the rules of the theater, don't buy a ticket..."



I know what you mean but if that's the case then theaters should also stop selling snacks that definitely ruins an experience when someone cracklesplastic wrapper during an intensely quiet scene.

 

The difference is that one of these things is illegal and a form of copyright infringement and the other thing...isn't.

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 12:56pm

robskynyc said: "I don't understand how the people around them don't say anything?! if I see a phone out during a show my inner Patti comes out and I'm like "yo put you ****ing phone away or ill put it away for you"

most people put it away. but I did snatch someones phone out of their hand at Chicago and throw it into the aisle."

I understand the sentiment but actively grabbing someone's phone out of their hands and throwing it can lead to some very real legal trouble for you. Just because they're conducting copyright infringement doesn't mean you have the right to violate that jurisdiction's criminal code.

[Wick3]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 1:19pm

LarryD2 said: "Wick3 said: "Maggie05 said: "Every time someone records a show, it is a total distraction to the people behind them. Each person has paid money to see and enjoy the full experience of immersing them selves in a Broadway show. The light from the phone recording distracts the eye and mind from what is happening on stage.

Theaters need to come together and solve this problem, because at almost every show I have been to this year (probably about 20) someone in front or next to me has taken out their phone, and checked their texts or tried to film something and it has ruined the moment for me and those around me. I have paid for my ticket, too, and another person doesn't have the right to take that experience from me. At some point, there is going to be a bad fight over this in a theater, and I will totally understand the rage. If you don't like the rules of the theater, don't buy a ticket..."



I know what you mean but if that's the case then theaters should also stop selling snacks that definitely ruins an experience when someone cracklesplastic wrapper during an intensely quiet scene.



The difference is that one of these things is illegal and a form of copyright infringement and the other thing...isn't."

Yes but it still ruins the moment for other theatergoers.

[Rob120]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 2:23pm

OlBlueEyes said: "There wouldn’t be a need for bootlegs if Broadway would stop living in the last century. In general, people no longer have to be at the right place at the right time to see films, television shows and live concerts. Not long after first release, films and TV shows can be streamed right to your home. And there is fantastic money in it, as you know if you follow Netflix.

An increasing number of live concerts are being recorded and made available for later viewing. Even subscription streaming radio, especially SiriusXM, broadcasts live concerts and makes them available to listen to later “on-demand.”

Half of the population is over 1000 miles away from Manhattan. Someone who wants to see a live show has to pay big bucks just to fly to NewYork and get a room in a hotel (25 percent sales tax, thank you). Then they can buy a good seat for $175 or so.

Is it a surprise that the Tony awards are on the brink of being dropped by the major networks? No one has seen the shows. After the first six or nine months, when the first rush of attendance has passed, allow the rest of the country to share. Maybe pay-per-view with a good stiff cost, but not $175.

If enough money is realized from this, ticket prices in New York might be reduced allowing more people to attend. And to hopefully eliminate eight shows a week. This burden sends the best actors and actresses out on concert tours instead of into another Broadway show."

CBS has a multi year legal agreement with the Tony Awards so that argument is baseless.  Many shows are filmed for later realease or television (Memphis, She Loves Me, etc) but theatre is meant to be witnessed live which is why there are tours.  You don’t have to fly to New York to see a Broadway show.  You can see them all across the country and throughout the world.  Living in a El Passo is no excuse.

[Sauja]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 2:47pm

uncageg said: "But isn't the appeal and the point of live theatre seeing something that never can happen again?

This."

100 times over. THIS. These are performances that casts, directors, and designers work so incredibly hard on to make sure that they will be experienced fully and LIVE. Bootlegs are an insult to everyone who worked to build a performance for the theater, and they're a slap in the face to anyone who didn't give their consent to have their work shared for free. And knowing judgmental people are going to sit at their computers talking about how terrible the design is or a performance is in a show they're watching in rough image quality with bad sound in a 3x4 square...it's an insult to the artists, and it is theft. 

 

And "shouldn't everyone be able to see it eventually?" NO. Part of what makes theater special is having been there. Whether it's community theater or regional or Broadway, this is an industry BASED on being LIVE. The ephemerality isn't just a part of the process, it's part of the point.

 

And don't get it twisted--when shows choose to record for posterity, they do so with permission of every artist from lead actress to props manager, and everyone is compensated, AND everyone knows that they're doing that performance for posterity. It's not the same. 

 

[Babe_Williams]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 2:50pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "I’m not contradicting myself, you’re confused. Patti didn’t know people audio recorded her screamin stop taking pictures at someone who was distractingly taking pictures with a flash. I’m glad someone audio recorded the incident. I’m not glad someone took a photo with a flash at a show. That was ridiculous.

Regarding this now legendary LuPone/GYPSY/ "Rose's Turn" rant, it was later revealed that the photographer taking those photos was GillianLaub, who was on assignment for New York Magazine, and had been approved/authorized bynot only LuPone herself but GYPSY management. It wasn't some random audience member taking photos. Gillian has said that LuPone DID call her later that same night and profusely apologized as (to quote LuPone) "she was mortified." Sadly, LuPone has never mentioned this follow-up whenever it's been mentioned in interviews."

I'm cringing. that poor photographer

[theaterlyfe19]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 3:31pm

Sauja said: "uncageg said: "But isn't the appeal and the point of live theatre seeing something that never can happen again?

This."

100 times over. THIS. These are performances that casts, directors, and designers work so incredibly hard on to make sure that they will be experienced fully and LIVE. Bootlegs are an insult to everyone who worked to build a performance for the theater, and they're a slap in the face to anyone who didn't give their consent to have their work shared for free. And knowing judgmental people are going to sit at their computers talking about how terrible the design is or a performance is in a show they're watching in rough image quality with bad sound in a 3x4 square...it's an insult to the artists, and it is theft.



And "shouldn't everyone be able to see it eventually?" NO. Part of what makes theater special is having been there. Whether it's community theater or regional or Broadway, this is an industry BASED on being LIVE. The ephemerality isn't just a part of the process, it's part of the point.



And don't get it twisted--when shows choose to record for posterity, they do so with permission of every artist from lead actress to props manager, and everyone is compensated, AND everyone knows that they're doing that performance for posterity. It's not the same.

"

THIS THIS THIS 

[LuPita2]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 4:23pm

I care that it distracted her and potentially the audience in this particular instance. However, if she were hypothetically this upset about someone recording her show without her knowing then I dont care at all, sorry.

You shouldn't go see shows then, actors hate people like you.  What you are supporting is illegal and distracting to everyone on stage and disrespectful to everyone who worked on it.  Can't see it live?  Oh well, that's life.  

Sara should have stopped mid show and had that person removed by security and tossed on their ass to the curb.  Avoiding confrontation and using Instagram isn't going to solve anything. The audience would have supported her anyways. 

[binau]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 4:36pm

The premise that must be true for it not to bother me is that it is unnoticed by either actors or audience.

[SweetLips22]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 5:14pm

This world wide epidemic with phones and the use there of -anywhere, will never be stopped by the individual.

The world has gone crazy to 'share' [sorry Cher] whatever with whoever.

If an individual cannot control that desire where they shouldn't, than that privilege should be removed---enter Big Brother.

Don't rant on about 'your rights'---you have none.

If a man has wandered around the moon then the person responsible for that miracle can find a way to shut down these fkn phones, when necessary.

[LuPita2]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 5:19pm

More and more concerts are having phones checked at the door, including the upcoming Freestyle Love Supreme shows.  They will begin doing this at Broadway shows, hopefully sooner rather than later.  Then the majority of us on here will be much, much happier at the theater.  

[robskynyc]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 5:40pm

JSquared2 said: "robskynyc said: "I don't understand how the people around them don't say anything?! if I see a phone out during a show my inner Patti comes out and I'm like "yo put you ****ing phone away or ill put it away for you"

most people put it away. but I did snatch someones phone out of their hand at Chicago and throw it into the aisle."

Then I'd say it's only a matter of time before someone beats the sh"t out of you (and/oryou are arrested).

"

she got 2 warnings before I snatched her phone out of her hand. I'm 6'1" and a brown belt in krav maga and a green beret vet. I'm pretty sure nobody is beating anything out of me.

and arrest? LOL riiiiight. assuming she got kicked out of the theatre and then what? ran up to the nearest cop and said "officer he snatched my phone out of my hand while I was actively breaking the law." and then convince the cops to come back to the theatre? LOL you must not be from nyc. I've seen someone get physically assaulted by a homeless psycho, and when they went up to the cops who were two feet away they shrugged it off. 

Updated On: 1/16/19 at 05:40 PM

[RWPrincess]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 6:02pm

I've been to a number of Disney embargoed events through their official fan club and depending on the crowd size, they either take the phone and keep it at the door or for larger crowds, they hand you a large envelope at the door and security makes you seal your phone inside at bag check. So if you open the envelope at your seat, it would be loud enough for ushers/security to catch it.

[Up In One]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 6:03pm

On the subject of her rant - she went overboard - the show has had its run dragged out by stunt casting including her taking the lead. Stunt casting brings in the fans who think they are at concerts where filming and singing along is normal. She will never tame her fans.

On the subject of recording, there should be more, not by the audience but by marketing. So many shows and performances would live on forever if they did . Broadway is stuck in decades old marketing concepts and the tix prices and cost of traveling to New York is keeping many fans from being born. There should be well produced recordings of every performer whoever sang that song somewhere on line.

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 6:12pm

Despite the strictest of ushers there are excellent bootlegs of Bette, Donna, and Bernadette in Hello Dolly! that are widely circulated and have periodically made their way to YT.

[darquegk]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 7:18pm

Nobody's ever going to change anyone's mind on bootlegging, a practice and a debate that dates back to the first Queen Elizabeth's reign. The law and manners are on the anti-boot side, but history and realities of the industry are on the pro-boot's side.

[MikeInTheDistrict]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 7:30pm

I've watched/listened to so many bootleg performances online that I would be a hypocrite to get all up in arms about them. I am willing to bet I'm not alone in this. Updated On: 1/16/19 at 07:30 PM

[Yankees02]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 10:16pm

it would be nice if theaters do what comedy shows are doing. I've went to Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle recently, before you enter the show your phone is turned off or on vibrate and placed inside a pouch.

If it goes off, its on you to leave to a designated area and have the pouch unlocked. Takes a little longer to leave but it shouldn't be an issue at broadway theaters considering how small they are. I went to larger venues and this was done without issues.

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 10:38pm

robskynyc said: "JSquared2 said: "robskynyc said: "I don't understand how the people around them don't say anything?! if I see a phone out during a show my inner Patti comes out and I'm like "yo put you ****ing phone away or ill put it away for you"

most people put it away. but I did snatch someones phone out of their hand at Chicago and throw it into the aisle."

Then I'd say it's only a matter of time before someone beats the sh"t out of you (and/oryou are arrested).

"

she got 2 warnings before I snatched her phone out of her hand. I'm 6'1" and a brown belt in krav maga and a green beretvet. I'm pretty sure nobody is beating anything out of me.

and arrest? LOL riiiiight. assuming she got kicked out of the theatre and then what? ran up to the nearest cop and said "officer he snatched my phone out of my hand while I was actively breaking the law." and then convince the cops to come back to the theatre? LOL you must not be from nyc. I've seen someone get physically assaulted by a homeless psycho, and when they went up to the cops who were two feet away they shrugged it off."

You sound lovely. But more to the point I absolutely have seen situations escalate over much less and the cops get involved with arrests made. So you are pushing your luck. If someone is misbehaving you get the theater managers to take care of it. You don't have the right to put your hands on another person, green beret or not. That's called assault and battery and you might think you're tough until you spend one night in a county jail.