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FROZEN Previews#26
Posted: 2/18/18 at 11:59pm
Sounds to me like I’ll be as disappointed in this as I was with Charlie and the chocolate factory in terms of the set. Sigh.
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FROZEN Previews#27
Posted: 2/19/18 at 12:20am

RippedMan said: "Literally they aren't creating a masterpiece. They're creating a cashcow. And that's it. Sure, it could be a 1000000% better, but they don't care."

T H I S

I hope that they prove us wrong because I want this to be wonderful 

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FROZEN Previews#28
Posted: 2/19/18 at 1:28am

disneybroadwayfan22 said: "RippedMan said: "Literally they aren't creating a masterpiece. They're creating a cashcow. And that's it. Sure, it could be a 1000000% better, but they don't care."

T H I S

I hope that they prove us wrong because I want this to be wonderful
"

I saw the show in Denver and thought it was wonderful. To be fair, Caissie Levy could sing the dictionary and I'd pay to hear it. I thought the lack of castle was odd, but the quick change is really cool. I thought the sauna number was actually pretty funny and it was a good way to come back from intermission. So many kids attend this show that people were trickling in late because of bathroom lines, which wasn't a big deal during that number. I'd have been super irritated if it was further along and people were still walking in front of me. The part that bothered me the most was when the parents died. I hope they changed that scene because it was pretty awkward, especially for anyone living under a rock who missed the movie. It sounds like the narrator was cut, that was the other part I didn't love... but even with those few criticisms I absolutely loved the show. I saw it a few times in Denver and am going to see it in NYC when I'm there in May.

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FROZEN Previews#29
Posted: 2/19/18 at 2:49am
Curious if they replaced the opening song with the narrator being cut now.
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FROZEN Previews#30
Posted: 2/19/18 at 12:01pm

I won't see Frozen if no ice castle in Let It Go. It's the crescendo of the song and everyone (no exaggeration intended) knows. I'm also concerned about the two act plot structure. Based on what I read, Act One should end with Elsa kicking Anna out of the ice palace.

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FROZEN Previews#31
Posted: 2/19/18 at 6:09pm
If there is no ice castle then this show is DOOMED. It’s not a time to be abstract. People don’t pay hundreds of dollars for a glitter curtain from 1962. People want Lion King Hydraulics and Mary Poppins magic. In my opinion the theme park version was ok. Broadway needs to be a step up from that not a step down. This is not an experimental student piece - this is Disney and Broadway. It needs to be a Defying Gravity moment - I’m sorry to compare but it will be made. Standing on an empty stage waving arms in the air when the song is about building a castle says it all. If this show is done right it could run for 30 years and open 15 productions around the world and make them BILLIONS. I’m sorry but Frozen needs a jaw dropping Ice Castle or I feel it will be anther Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and dissapoint the whole community and industry. No pressure!
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FROZEN Previews#32
Posted: 2/19/18 at 6:45pm
I don't think it will be doomed if there is no castle. It's Frozen. Just the name alone is selling tickets.
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FROZEN Previews#33
Posted: 2/19/18 at 9:42pm

Disneyland didn't have an ice castle.....

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FROZEN Previews#34
Posted: 2/19/18 at 9:55pm

They kinda do. It's mainly the interior and the staircase, but other than that, it's an empty stage as well. At the very least, the broadway production's ice castle isn't just projections.

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FROZEN Previews#35
Posted: 2/19/18 at 10:14pm

Joshua Boyd-Williams said: "They kinda do. It's mainly the interior and the staircase, but other than that, it's an empty stage as well. At the very least, the broadway production's ice castle isn't just projections."

True, but least SOMETHING is happening overall. I wouldn't call projections the most ideal idea for this, but I'll take that because at least SOMETHING is happening, over a stupid blue curtain that just sits there and nothing actually happens while Caissie waves and walks aimlessly. Now....are there more sets for this or aren't there?? Seems even with someone directly involved saying there is, we still can't get a straight answer...we'll find out soon enough anyway.

 

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FROZEN Previews#36
Posted: 2/19/18 at 10:59pm

Let It Go is not about building an ice castle, it's about Elsa realizing that what she was told to hide about herself is what makes her special. It's about her realizing that she is ok just the way she is and that she doesn't have to be afraid of being outed anymore. She happens to realize all of that in the movie while building an ice castle, but there is no rule that she has to find herself while building an ice castle. Making it all about the castle is missing the entire point of the song and the entire climactic moment for that character if you ask me. Is the ice castle rad in the movie, yes obviously it is. Would an ice castle be fun and flashy? Yes totally. But does an ice castle really add anything to the actual story? Not really. It's about flash and fun, which does matter at that price point I agree. The quick change is super cool and flashy, and in Denver was sort of the climatic moment of that song rather than the ice castle. If they could add some flash it wouldn't hurt, but if they don't the story doesn't suffer at all because it's not about the castle. To totally just say you won't go if there's no ice castle seems really weird to me.

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FROZEN Previews#37
Posted: 2/19/18 at 11:01pm
As I said before that's not my only worry. It's also the two act structure. Let It Go makes sense vocally but not in any other way
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FROZEN Previews#38
Posted: 2/19/18 at 11:07pm

BwayLB said: "As I said before that's not my only worry. It's also the two act structure. Let It Go makes sense vocally but not in any other way"

Did they change the two act structure? In Denver act 1 ended with Let It Go... I mean it has to. There was no other way they were going to end act 1. I thought it worked pretty well in Denver, plus the way she kicks Anna out would leave act 1 feeling way flatter than ending it with Let It Go. Although now I'm wondering how they will transition out of that scene where she does kick her out because it ended with a narrator moment. Should be better now if they cut the entire narrator. 

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FROZEN Previews#39
Posted: 2/19/18 at 11:09pm
It was just my opinion
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FROZEN Previews#40
Posted: 2/19/18 at 11:55pm
They changed the narrator part after the reprise of for the first time in forever during Denver. Elsa sings a reprise of dangerous to dream. I think it was like 45 seconds to a minute.
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FROZEN Previews#41
Posted: 2/20/18 at 12:11am

It's "FROZEN" it will run. But I've never counted the MINUTES till a show was over. I wanted to think of an excuse to leave but I paid for my out of town ticket. Everyone is horrifically vanilla. It will run ten years. And broadway will die a slow slow tragic and painful death everyday of those years. 

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FROZEN Previews#42
Posted: 2/20/18 at 12:39am

LOL at anyone saying the show will fail without an ice castle. How about we wait and read some actual reviews once previews start?

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FROZEN Previews#43
Posted: 2/20/18 at 1:21pm
Here’s a look at Elsa’s new costume for Act 2....

https://instagram.com/p/BfbZ_NKh764/
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FROZEN Previews#44
Posted: 2/20/18 at 1:22pm

bwayphreak234 said: "Here’s a look at Elsa’s new costume for Act 2....

https://instagram.com/p/BfbZ_NKh764/
"

...PANTS?

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FROZEN Previews#45
Posted: 2/20/18 at 1:26pm

bwayphreak234 said: "Here’s a look at Elsa’s new costume for Act 2....

https://instagram.com/p/BfbZ_NKh764/
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YES, love it!!!!! Hopes she still wears the dress at some point, but a worthy replacement. And LOL at Twitter complaining.

IdinaBellFoster said: "LOL at anyone saying the show will fail without an ice castle. How about we wait and read some actual reviews once previews start?"

Like, really. Can they do better? Yes. But, at least it won't be anywhere like the box as the chocolate room i CACF

 

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FROZEN Previews#46
Posted: 2/20/18 at 1:35pm
Remember, everyone thought The Little Mermaid was a guaranteed hit, and that flopped big time. No guarantee with FROZEN either.
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FROZEN Previews#47
Posted: 2/20/18 at 1:36pm

There is a LOT tied into **why** the character is building her ice palace during "Let It Go" that's not being discussed. For me, this is why her ice palace must be grand and appear as Elsa's delivering the song. She could've built her ice palace in a boring book scene but the intent behind it changes when she's building it while exclaiming her newfound "freedom." She's singing about how it's her time to do what's best for her and not what other people think is best for her. At the same time, she's building an isolating ice palace that will keep her safe and protected from everyone else - and everyone else protected from her. She's creating this beautiful, magnificent place to be her physical sanctuary and/or tomb. I don't think we can underestimate the reason she builds the castle during "Let It Go" and a simple quick change isn't going to relate any of this. We need to see the castle built while she's singing this song. Otherwise it's just a park 'n bark and ultimately renders the song incredibly less effective. This is Disney so there is absolutely no reason why we can't get a visual wow with the palace as well. Add me to the camp of no ice palace, no ticket purchase.

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FROZEN Previews#48
Posted: 2/20/18 at 1:54pm

ACL2006 said: "Remember, everyone thought The Little Mermaid was a guaranteed hit, and that flopped big time. No guarantee with FROZEN either."

True, but I'm sure FROZEN has a much bigger advance than THE LITTLE MERMAID did.

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FROZEN Previews#49
Posted: 2/20/18 at 2:04pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "bwayphreak234 said: "Here’s a look at Elsa’s new costume for Act 2....

https://instagram.com/p/BfbZ_NKh764/
"

...PANTS?
"

I like that costume...EXCEPT the pants...a really cool looking skirt and still show those bomb ass boots, would be better, I just don't think the aesthetic of pants works for her...

greensgreens- ALL of what you said. It's not just just about having a glorious set being built, it's about what it represents. That's the point. Yes it's about her finding her freedom and deciding "**** everything" but the culmination of that decision IS THE INCREDIBLE CREATION WE MUST BE ABLE TO SEE (Yes I meant all caps). The whole point of the scene is to finally see what she's really able to do with these powers she's been unhealthily suppressing for over a decade. We don't see that? The scene falls flat if not outright dies.

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FROZEN Previews#50
Posted: 2/20/18 at 3:20pm
There’s an invited dress happening right now. Lots of posts on Instagram.