Obama is weak- Page 2

Posted: 9/15/12 at 5:12pm

There was a Romney rally in Michigan (one of his "home states") that drew a crowd estimated to be......seventeen people. 17. As a reporter on the scene observed "the campaign has the stench of death upon it."

[romantico]

Posted: 9/15/12 at 5:30pm

I love what Bil Maher said last night about Mitt

[Addison D.]

Posted: 9/15/12 at 5:51pm

No, no, no, people. Don't take the bait. Examine the bait. Look at it.

"Obama is weak"

What the F&*!K does that mean, exactly?

Physically weak? You want him, personally, to go over and wrassle up some evil-doers? Of course not.

Mentally weak? Compared to Mittens? Puh-lease. Laughable on the surface. Even the biggest GOP hacks acknowledge that President Obama has a sharp intellect and a quick intelligence.

So--what the crap does it mean? It means NOTHING. It means that our President doesn't indulge in the kind of embarrassing buffoonery in which the GOP demagogues love to wallow.

George W Bush, all dressed up like the brave little soldier that he WASN'T. That kind of ghastly window dressing just makes the gullible sheep shiver with pride.

It would be funny if it wasn't so damned SAD.

Updated On: 9/15/12 at 05:51 PM

[Yawper]

Posted: 9/16/12 at 5:37pm

a Romney rally in Michigan (one of his "home states")

Romney only gets to claim that because he was born here. He left for college and never looked back. He doesn't own any homes or other investments here and hasn't been active in anything locally to benefit Michigan. No one here really considers him a true homeboy. Even his Dad's own Lieutenant Governor - a lifelong Republican and the State's longest-ever seated Governor - refuses to endorse him.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/16/12 at 7:56pm

"He see's everything as a business opportunity"?

[Addison D.]

Posted: 9/16/12 at 8:36pm

"Even his Dad's own Lieutenant Governor - a lifelong Republican and the State's longest-ever seated Governor - refuses to endorse him."

And he is certain to lose Massachusetts to Obama.

Much like Newt Gingrich, the people who know Romney best seem to be the least enthusiastic about electing him to be President.

Updated On: 9/16/12 at 08:36 PM

[romantico]

Posted: 9/16/12 at 8:51pm

This is for the OP.

Obama is weak,huh? Well either you know nothing about Romney telling Detroit to go bankrupt or you are intentionally overlooking it,and that is dishonest and weak!

Mitt wrote an OP about how he would let Detroit go bankrupt. However, once Obama saved Detroit and it the risk he took turned out to pay off, then Mitt tried to take credit for it.

A weak coward who flip flops on EVERY ISSUE is no leader yet the OP seems to think Romney is the better choice. Um, yeah. This says about all I need to know about Mr.Colyer.

[Yawper]

Posted: 9/16/12 at 11:26pm

That's a bogus argument, though, because the Obama administration still dragged the automakers through bankruptcy while letting the banksters who caused the mess go free.

[romantico]

Posted: 9/17/12 at 7:19am

Its a FACT! Its also a FACT that Romney tried to take credit for it once it was a success.Obama saved jobs and the company saw a profit from that. Explain to me how that is bogus.

Updated On: 9/17/12 at 07:19 AM

[Yawper]

Posted: 9/17/12 at 1:01pm

Romney said let the companies go bankrupt and the Obama administration dragged the companies through structured bankruptcy - what's so hard to understand about that?

Posted: 9/17/12 at 1:15pm

Not that "dragged the companies through structured bankruptcy" is a loaded phrase or anything....

After hearing a lot about this subject (Mitt claiming he was the one who saved Detroit and knowing nothing except the headline of his editorial which sure didn't sound that way) I did some digging.

Mitt's divergence from the Obama plan seemed to be that he was dead set against any Washington "bailout" (another loaded word). He felt that a bailout would empower the automakers to continue their failed policies and that they would be unwilling to make any changes. And although he didn't come out and demand an end to unions it sure sounded like he thought that was a damned good idea.

At the time there was a reluctance to advance any capital to GM and Ford by any private firms. So Washington's involvement pretty much saved the day. Without some money to pay the bills would the US auto industry have survived?

Updated On: 9/17/12 at 01:15 PM

[SNAFU]

Posted: 9/17/12 at 1:20pm

The bail out money helped the support industries whom GM owed. With out it, the devestation would have been far greater.

[romantico]

Posted: 9/17/12 at 2:22pm

Un F###*&@ REAL. So, you don,t see him saving GM as one of his accomplishments? How petty. Considering what the outcome would be had he not stepped in.I suppose The Bin Laden raid was a failure because one of the choppers was destroyed.I'm sure those people who's job was saved in Detroit would disagree with you strongly.So the automakers had to go through bankruptcy. Look at the final outcome.How is this a bogus argument?

Updated On: 9/17/12 at 02:22 PM

[Yawper]

Posted: 9/17/12 at 10:30pm

GM and Ford

GM and Chrysler

[strummergirl]

Posted: 9/17/12 at 10:37pm

Ford was asking for bail-out money but the situation was getting so dire in Congress, they pulled out believing they could survive. They even put out commercials patting themselves on the back for not being one of the Detroit Big 3 to get bailout money. However, they were also in on it though they still maintain they went with GM and Chrysler to Congress just as support. I think both Chrysler and GM got a lot less money than they asked for too.

But anyway, had both GM and Chrysler gone into bankruptcy the way Mitt Romney wanted, who was going to emerge as the debtor to help them re-finance in the middle of a recession?

[Yawper]

Posted: 9/17/12 at 10:52pm

Ford was not asking for bailout money. They maxed out their borrowing a few years earlier, right down to even mortgaging their logo rights, and were good as long as the supplier chain didn't go down. The supplier chain was the primary worry all the way around.

Why do you think businessmen like Romney wanted to see them go bankrupt instead of having the government intervene? Opportunity!! They were licking their chops, waiting to pounce. Imagine getting GM on the cheap! GM was cash poor, not asset poor.

No one expected Chrysler to survive independently. Daimler-Benz just screwed the company over too hard, entirely gutting it. Handing it to Fiat just settled the mess quicker than putting Chrysler on the market.