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Liza & Lorna
Posted by do_re_milla 2003-11-26 13:16:10


As I was reading on 1 of the boards about Lorna, I recalled having seen Lorna singing in a night club several (many?) yrs ago in NYC. Anyone remember this? Was it Rainbow & Stars?

I distinctly remember thinking that Lorna sounded like young Judy & Liza the more "mature" Judy.

Milla

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Posted by Horsey2 2003-11-26 13:23:25


Lorna appeared at RAINBOW & STARS several times.

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Posted by TheaterBaby 2003-11-26 14:03:40


Lorna has a wonderful singing voice, and Liza is definitely the performer in the family...though I've never had the pleasure of seeing Lorna live.

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Posted by BoxOfficeJon 2003-11-26 14:15:03


I recall Lorna in a show I saw when I was younger. I cannot recall where but she does have a very pleasant singing voice.

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Posted by Seany 2003-11-26 14:41:34


Am I the only one who likes Lorna A LOT more than Liza?

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Posted by Horsey2 2003-11-26 15:01:32


Yes, Seany, you might be the only one who likes Lorna a lot better than Liza.

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Posted by robactorguy 2003-11-26 15:03:18


yes i think so seany, lol, although lorna was alot of fun in, dare i say it, grease 2.

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Posted by Seany 2003-11-26 15:03:48


Eh...I grew up on Grease 2. What can I say?

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Posted by robactorguy 2003-11-26 15:05:44


no, don't get me wrong, grease 2 is a fav, but ALOT of people on this post condem those who even mention it, lol.

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Posted by TheaterBaby 2003-11-26 23:39:52


Yes, Grease 2 can be added to my list of Guilty Pleasure movies.
LOL that Seasons song was like a knockoff of "His Love Makes Me Beautiful" from Funny Girl. And who doesn't love Michelle's pointless solo in the middle of that song. Tell me how she won that contest when that part of the song had nothing to do with the seasons!? And yet, I still watch it.

Liza & Lorna
Posted by cliffarico 2003-11-27 10:51:12


I was lucky to see Lorna Luft's Songs My Mother Taught Me, in Atlantic City in Jan 2002. She, it was great. I can only hope that she brings it back to the NYC area....
CB

re: Liza & Lorna
Posted by alterego 2003-11-28 00:27:39


I'll go for Lorna in this debate. Better singer and actress, especially now. She has Broadway credits too, at 19 she took over the female lead in Promises, Promises and played Adelaide on tour and on Broadway in the most recent revival. She was Sonia in the national tour of They're Playing Our Song.A few months ago she played Rose in a production of Gypsy

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Posted by MasterLcZ 2003-11-28 22:50:38


I just can never forgive Lorna for having Satan's spawn as her father.

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Posted by alterego 2003-11-28 23:15:03


Why Satans spawn?

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Posted by MaxHolmes 2003-11-28 23:39:22


Gee, why can't The Sisters stop all this feuding and work TOGETHER? Mama Judy once said she wanted to do a musical version of "Baby Jane" -- now tell me, what other role could Liza, at this freak-show stage of her career, play more convincingly than Baby Jane Hudson? Lorna could play Blanche. Yeah, I know, it's a tedious role, but throw her a big solo as she drags her ass down the stairs -- let her show that, yes, she has -- and has always had -- a better voice than Liza.

Do we all know the story about when Judy went to see Lorna in her high school musical? This was, of course, AFTER sister Liza had already won the Tony for Flora. But Lorna was so wonderful in her show that, after her first number as the audience applauded wildly, Judy turned to her companion and said, "Fuck Liza. THIS one's gonna pay my rent."

I guess the discussion may well be about why Liza made it and Lorna didn't...

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Posted by tkts 2003-11-29 00:08:24


Didn't Lorna do "They're Playing Our Song" on Broadway for a while way back?

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Posted by Victoria Grant 2003-11-29 00:32:21


Lorna was on the Jerry Lewis Telethon this past Sept she sang
"Smile" she did a really great job.

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Posted by Horsey!!! 2003-11-29 02:49:34


>>>I guess the discussion may well be about why Liza made it and Lorna didn't...<<<

Two words; "star quality."
Liza had it in droves.
Lorna had none.

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Posted by lensman55 2003-11-29 12:20:08


>Eh...I grew up on Grease 2. What can I say?

You led a warped and twisted childhood!

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Posted by BrdwyThtr 2003-11-29 15:07:23


Hey! I grew up on Grease 2 too. I remember dancing around to "Reproduction".

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Posted by MasterLcZ 2003-11-29 19:13:01


Lorna's father, Sid Luft defines the phrase "bloodsucking slimeball".
He saw Judy Garland as only one thing - his meal ticket.

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Posted by A_Boy_From_Oz 2003-11-30 13:37:19


I love Lorna more simply because of Grease 2. Any movie that can make a song about bowling into the best song in the score is fine with me.

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Posted by daisy hilton 2003-11-30 14:41:35


Lorna was the ONLY good part of that stupid movie! I've ALWAYS been more a fan of Lorna than Liza's. The only reason Liza is bigger is because she's CRAZIER and when you're crazy and have a kooky personality it makes you more interesting to watch. Liza is just a famous personality who throws in a few songs because she can't very well just stand there (and is possibly under the very false assumption that she CAN sing)... Lorna is the *talent*. Don't get me wrong, Liza has ALL kinds of presence and IS fun to watch, but biatch is insane (i'm not prejudice... crazy people are my faves) and CAN'T sing.

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Posted by JoshuaEads1984 2003-12-01 03:14:26


I, too, grew up on and loved "Grease! 2", and Lorna's performance as Paulette.

That being said, I'm not a big fan of Lorna's LIVE performance ability. She was a dreadful Adelaide on tour - no stage presence and lacking in the vocal department. Big disappointment. HOWEVER, this *is* the only impression I have of her stage work and would be interested in giving her another shot.

Liza, on the other hand, has always been a joy to watch on stage or screen. Her voice (at least the way it used to be) reminded me a lot of her mother: very raw and very emotional.

Just my two cents

Love,
Joshua

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Posted by MaxHolmes 2003-12-01 03:39:22


Two words; "star quality."
Liza had it in droves.
Lorna had none.

=== And what does "star quality" mean? That names a phenomenon without defining it. Mystery of the Ages... I've seen Liza on stage eight or nine times over the last 31 years. I can't imagine showing up for Lorna that often. So I agree, there is an enormous "You Gotta Watch Her" factor with Liza, whereas with Lorna -- well, there's just NOT. Liza is perhaps the ultimate of the "She's a Star because she's a Star" breed. What else could Liza be but a star? No one (no one) has ever had her feverish, near-psychotic onstage exhibitionism and desparate need to be adored. Never a particularly good voice, though her style was incredibly compelling. God knows, no looks. As an actress, she was never able to conform to any characterization beyond her own personality. But to contradict Judy, "Fuck Lorna. Liza paid the rent."

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Posted by alterego 2003-12-01 07:26:35


Some years ago I worked with the director of the tour she did of They're Playing Our Song. He was with the original Broadway production of same (with Lucie Arnaz) and put the likes of Anita Gillette, Stockard Channing and Marsha Skaggs into it. He also directed the first national company of Song with Ellen Greene. He claimed that Lorna was his favorite of all the Sonia's. Stacked up against those other women, she must have something going for her.

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Posted by do_re_milla 2003-12-01 10:43:36


My fav Liza movie is 1969's THE STERILE CUCKOO. I'll never forget her big scene in the phone booth talking to her Dad. Her Dad has just let her down big time & she's devistated, but trying to keep a stiff upper lip. Liza was nominated for an Oscar because of her wonderful characterization of Pookie in this scene. The film was quite daring for its times: nudity, strong language, & Liza's character was playfully sexual. I don't remember who won the Oscar that yr, but I can't imagine a better performance from anyone & sadly haven't seen her act up to this standard since. It was Alan Pakula's directing debut.

As I mentioned before, I'm a fan of both Lorna & Liza. However, I wish Lorna had the fire in her belly that Liza seems to have.

Milla