There is indeed no such thing as misinterpreting art. Death of the Author is absolutely a thing, so even the intent behind it does not matter. Part of the whole beauty of art and entertainment is that it's not just what the creator (and in stage, also other factors such as the performers and everyone involved with the production) puts into, but also what each individual takes from it. Every audience member can react differently and the mixing of their own views, values, tastes, and the li
Ah, ok. That's fair. I still disagree personally on this respect only because I think Spongebob is good enough to warrant awards, and may possibly trigger that split that's happened before. I can see how some might think otherwise though.
Dramamama - you are right. I did over-react and I apologize for that. I've deleted the original autistic outburst, and I apologize to GeorgeAndDot for it possibly being too personal. It just really makes me furious when I see statements that imply that certain works are inherently superior and anyone who dislikes them are intellectually inferior. As stated, I've known too many other people who have personally just dismissed me as the r-word just because I didn't like certain
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2018, 02:51:10 PM
Haven't there been several years where when a big popular commercial thing was up against an "intellectual" musical, they gave best book and score to the "intellectual" show but best musical time the commercial? That's what I'm hoping for anyway. Anything that causes people to defend it by resorting to "if you didn't like it you're just stupid", as done in this thread, is elitist trash. And elitism is pure evil that must be destroyed. Broadway for the masses forever!
Just throwing this out there, but I know previous Tony Awards would occasionally include scenes from the nominated plays in addition to songs from Musicals. With the acknowledgement that there are only 3 Revivals this year, what do you all think are the chances that we might get scenes from some or all of the nominated plays in this year's ceremony, especially since it seems many feel that this year was a stronger season for new/revived plays than musicals?
JSquared2 said: "MadsonMelo said: "I'm soooo thrilled for this love that Mean Girls received, it was predictable, but still amazing! I believe Fey is winning Best Book, right?
I have to say I wasn't expecting so much nominations for CAROUSEL (5 acting noms! but not directing LOL) and so little for FROZEN. I mean, no tech awards? Wow, they really hated it LOL
I'm really sad for the featured performances of ONCE ON THIS ISLAND. No
I apologize for my ignorance, but what did Jack O'Brien do?
Also I loved Come From Away and think it deserved Best Musical over DEH too, but I see no reason to put down other shows over it. And if people are talking about musicals that would have won if they had come out for this season instead of last, what about Great Comet? Can we also probably say that if Great Comet had come out this season it would have been a lock for Best Musical?
I'm excited for all these nominees! Can't wait to see the show. I wonder if Margaritaville will still do a performance despite being completely shut out? Maybe they'll still buy a slot just to hopefully pump up summer tourist numbers?
Also I don't necessarily know if The Band's Visit is as sure of a lock as people thing - if The Lion King can beat Ragtime for Best Musical, Spongebob can beat The Band's Visit, is my view.
The 2018 Tonys opens with a deep apology to the truly justified entitled audience for 2017's by publicly torturing and executing Scott Rudin on stage, followed by forcing Bette Midler out to perform in chains.
That was somewhat disappointing. For such a strong season, I didn't feel like those performances truly captured the magic I felt when I saw those shows live on Broadway. The only performances that really felt good to me were Great Comet's and Bandstand's. Now I wish I had seen Bandstand instead of Dear Evan Hansen when I had gone to Broadway, I feel I would have enjoyed it a lot more.
A little disappointed at how much of a sweep it was for DEH, kind of wish it was more of t
Agreed on the matter re: icecreambenjamin - after seeing most of his posts through the past few months, I find it hilarious that he would call out froote as someone who "sticks his relentless hatred of DEH" into everything when his tone was reasonable, while benjamin is the one who spouts relentless hatred of CFA everywhere. And tone-wise icecreambenjamin is certainly the one who always has that aggressive, pretentious "my tastes are inherently superior to yours and make me sma
Of course you can hope for more works that you like. I enjoy many works with substance as well. I just also am able to appreciate more commercial works as well, which overall is a win since that means more works I enjoy compared to many. What I do reject is anyone who thinks that their preference and taste somehow makes them superior to me or smarter.
My statements were, to be fair, less directed specifically at you, but moreso at the sentiments of the original poster a
It's only crappy in the perception of people whose tastes, from what I have seen, run counter to mine, which means that to me it most likely will not be crappy at all. And I certainly hope I will enjoy it! May you enjoy your own preferred works as well.
That's your perception of a perfect world, maybe, and you are welcome to it. I can't entirely agree though, and not just due to difference in taste/preference. To me (and of course I am in no way here believing that my opinion on this is any kind of authority), a perfect world's Broadway is one with an exactly even balance of high-brow and low-brow theatre, with at least one show appealing to any possible set of interests or tastes. That way nobody would have any ca
Because Broadway does not cater exclusively to snobby elitists such as yourself. Having many shows that appeal to the masses and are lighter fare is a great thing - it brings more people and money to Broadway, and will entice people who otherwise would never see a musical, but will because of this subject (ie, Parrot Heads for Margaritaville), and then while they're there and seeing and hearing other stuff, they might be convinced to check out one of the other shows that sounds interestin
I have spoken to several people who assure me they are voters named Tony, and they insist that due to all the squabbling and fighting and hate over the whole thing, they are just tossing their hands in the air and giving all awards in all categories this year to Nathan Lane, who will then have them all melted for use as a base for the first prototype Lanebot, which are projected to replace flesh and blood actors and actresses entirely within the next 25 years.
Having now seen all of the major nominees, I also hope that the Tonys "spread the wealth" this year. Of the 4 nominees for Best Picture/Book/Musical, my least favorite was by far Dear Evan Hansen, but I won't be surprised if it does win since clearly I'm in the minority in my dislike of it, and even though I didn't like it personally I could still appreciate the power of the performance and that there were aspects of it that were great and award-worthy. My personal favor