Color-blind and gender-blind casting Oct 31
2020, 12:05:16 PM
I'm guessing HogansHero is a far-left liberal with major white guilt and a white savior complex, who thinks in black-and-white terms (no pun intended). In these extremists' simple minds, one size fits all. But not every play/musical can be easily cast color-blind, especially when it takes place in a specific time and place. For example, in Rodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella, which is set in a magical fairyland where anyth
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Lyric changes in MISS SAIGON Oct 2
2016, 10:25:29 PM
QueenAlice, but "Now That I've Seen Her" doesn't try to make Ellen sympathetic. She actually says (or sings, rather) that she will do what it takes to keep Chris.
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Lyric changes in MISS SAIGON Oct 2
2016, 07:42:31 PM
Wildcard, I believe Maltby wrote the English lyrics -- or rather, translated Boublil's French lyrics.
"Maybe" makes no sense. Kim has just revealed that she and Chris were more than a one-night stand, and Kim has screamed in Ellen's face, so why should she suddenly feel compassion for Kim? "Now That I've Seen Her" is a far better reaction to that.
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Lyric changes in MISS SAIGON Oct 1
2016, 03:04:12 PM
QueenAlice, that excerpt is from the original London production/OLCR. By the time it came to Broadway, the lyric was:
Gigi: Each day more GI's disappear.
Engineer: There's still some left and they'll all be here.
All Girls: A girl can trust the Engineer.
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Lyric changes in MISS SAIGON Oct 1
2016, 11:57:37 AM
IMO, the original Broadway production was the best. They were still tinkering with it in London, but by the time it arrived in NY, I thought it was the definitive edition. I don't understand all these rewrites and revisions and new songs. They make the piece worse. I hate these new lyrics changes and the inclusion of "Too Much for One Heart" and "Maybe." At least, the former uses the same melody (and some lyrics) as "Please," but the latter is a travesty
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CATS Reviews Aug 6
2016, 12:31:25 PM
TheatreFan4: "What the f**k? I mean Cynthia Erivo was lauded to high heavens and you want to throw out "They didn't like her cause she's not American!" about a production of a British show. That was Composed, Written, Designed, Costumed, & largely choreographed by Brits? This is such a stupid statement that I question your objectivity on really anything."
T.S. Eliot, the author of the poems th
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Why did Bonnie & Clyde flop? Aug 4
2016, 12:18:52 PM
CATSBTrevival: "It also helped that the show did not open with their deaths in La Jolla. We already know they're going to die when we take our seats so I've never understood the point of opening the show with the shootout like they did on Broadway."
Since they used historical photographs throughout the show, they should've started the show with the "How 'Bout a Dance?" instrumental prolog play
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Why did Bonnie & Clyde flop? Aug 3
2016, 03:38:18 PM
I agree that Act II needed a bit of work. This is when they should've introduced one or two members of the Barrow Gang, particularly W.D. Jones and/or Henry Methvin. Jones was 16 (later turned 17) and from the same squatters' camp (under the Oak Cliff Viaduct) as the Barrows. In fact, he was a good friend of Clyde's younger brother and idolized Clyde, who was six years older. He was on the run with B&C for longer (nearly a year)&n
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Why did Bonnie & Clyde flop? Jul 30
2016, 12:04:14 PM
They already did the impotent angle in the 1967 film. After they scrapped the ménage à trois nonsense, the writers decided to make Clyde impotent, instead, because they argued that Bonnie and Clyde couldn't just commit felonies and be happy. They needed something to keep them apart, to overcome -- in this case, his impotence, which Bonnie finally 'cures' by writing the poem about them. Somehow that did the trick in the movie.
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Why did Bonnie & Clyde flop? Jul 29
2016, 06:46:59 PM
¿?Macavity?: "These are all interesting points, but why has this thread come back? I have no problem with it, it just seems to come out of the blue."
Last weekend, I finally watched a bootleg of the Broadway show, which I enjoyed very much (to my surprise), so I searched to see if there were any B&C threads remaining, just to see what people had to say at the time, since I didn't participate in
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Why did Bonnie & Clyde flop? Jul 29
2016, 06:28:21 PM
WhizzerMarvin: "I also remember there being some director's note in the Playbill about how Clyde wasn't a homosexual or bi-sexual, or at least it hadn't been substantiated and therefore they weren't going to include it in their musical. It was this kind of announcement of wholesomeness and stripping of the gritty that would have been fine in the 1950s, but by 2011 I would much rather have seen an exploration of what life was like t
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Why did Bonnie & Clyde flop? Jul 29
2016, 05:34:37 PM
newintown: "Actually, authentic history shows us that they murdered at least 13 people and robbed small family-owned stores, as well as banks patronized by poor and lower-class investors, taking the money of those who could least afford to lose it or defend themselves."
Correction: the Barrow Gang (which at one point consisted of 9 members) was responsible for 13 murders (mainly lawmen), no
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Why did Bonnie & Clyde flop? Jul 27
2016, 01:11:59 PM
newintown wrote: "I would say that it had an unusually bad book, idiotically reducing two complex anti-social psychopathic murderers to sexy misunderstood kids just trying to express their individuality, like an episode of a YA TV show."
You obviously don't know anything about the real Bonnie and Clyde, which is who the musical was trying to capture (pun intended, I guess). I've studied the pair for over twenty
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Monique Wilson Jul 16
2016, 03:45:46 PM
One Eponine/Kim similarity: They both died happily in the arms of the object of their affection.
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New song for Ellen in Miss Saigon - Translation Jun 24
2016, 05:22:07 PM
Ellen also finds out that Kim meant much more to Chris than he had told her.
Not to mention that Ellen didn't learn about Kim until after the "Bui-Doi" number (a month before the "Room 317" confrontation). Before then, Chris had never mentioned Kim (except by shouting her name in his sleep) nor shared his experiences in Vietnam with Ellen. That's why, in "I Still Believe," she frustratingly laments
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Scherzinger backs out of CATS, Lloyd Webber furious May 15
2016, 09:59:54 PM
'Can we focus on the obvious question? How in the world does ALW actually think that the actress playing Grizabella would have an easy shot at the Tony????? This isn't the 80's Andrew.'
'Totally agree - we are not casting Rose in GYPSY here. This is a musical that has already had its limelight come and go, and from the perspective of people I have encountered on this forum at least, the show has not exactly he
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Unpopular Opinions May 13
2016, 07:38:54 PM
He has said before that there are hardly any roles for latinos and the ones that there are he isn't suited for so he writes his own.
Yeah, 'cause Alexander Hamilton was very Latino.
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Crucible Revival Aug 6
2015, 05:31:15 PM
Isn't Actors' Equity usually adamant about foreign actors (regardless if they're Irish or British) displacing American talent? What's going on here?
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Will anyone be tuning into Disney's Descendants? Aug 1
2015, 02:44:13 PM
I read that Prince Ben's parents are referred to as 'Queen Belle' (ok) and 'Prince Beast' (?). Why not 'King Adam'? In Disney canon, 'Adam' has been the Beast's official name, even if it's never mentioned in the movie -- or Broadway musical, for that matter.
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Bizarre Tony nominations May 9
2015, 02:21:00 PM
I forgot, Cats also won for Best Book, with the award going to long-dead T.S. Eliot, who obviously had nothing to do with that production other than his poems being the source for the show, which was entirely sung and had virtually no plot.
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