Despite Turnaround, ‘Beetlejuice’ Being Forced Out of Theater Dec 10
2019, 12:37:32 PM
From a legal standpoint, the terms of the stop clause seem quite unfavorable to the tenant. Does it really go into effect immediately after opening? It’d be fairer if it didn’t kick in for a bit, and was then an average of grosses in that stated period. So two sub-800K weeks wouldn’t do it, but a sub-800 average over maybe 6 weeks or whatever would.
Maybe it still would have been triggered here (I don’t remember the subsequent #’s) And owners can’t give a show forever to catch on... but
You all make really good points. And it's probably just my own bias and personal priorities. I recognize this, but sort of stand by my argument at the same time.
Uncle Charlie points out that "It's unfair to constantly single theater out as the one form of entertainment that is "unaffordable." I have no real defense there, in that it's not "unaffordable" in the context of amusement parks, concerts, and sporting events. But I
And I mostly agree with you, Joe Mayo. Granted, you need what amounts to an advanced degree in Broadway Planning, which most of us here have....so it is doable, but most people are beyond clueless. I've helped many friends -- even some who live in NYC -- who have no idea about any of this, even after Googling. It's not exactly written about a lot, compared to most other things in the marketplace.
Again, I don't disagree with you about the "Hottest Ticket" issue. But agree to disagree on how affordable theater is around the country to the average American, and how much it's not even on their radar as a result.
Would you say $160 is a lot for a family of four to see Peter Pan? How many American families are going to shell out for that? I use this as an example because here in Pittsburgh, we recently had the good fortune to have Jenn Colella sta
Can't afford a luxury item? Youcan't go! Boo hoo! Welcome to REAL LIFE."
I think the underlying frustration here may be the feeling that the theater overall -- like many other things in this country -- is becoming increasingly out of reach, available to the "haves" but not the "have nots." And unlike an $80,000 car or a piece of jewelry, I'd assume most people here would agree that many artistic endeavors provide *actual value* to bot
iwuldwf said: "dramamama611 said: "VotePeron said: "Y'all lost your MINDS whenever someone said something negative in The Prom's closing thread, but you're out the gate swinging with joy about BMC. Hate this place sometimes."
I thought the same thing."
Is this joy happening in a different thread? I'm mostly seeing"Not my favorite show, but I feelfor the cast/crew" sentiments."
Kad said: "Well, if nothing else, this will demonstrate the commercial viability relying entirely on being viral. A million streams of the album means nothing if those people don’t buy tickets."
Don't a lot of shows that fail to recoup on Broadway make the money back -- albeit slowly -- via tours, licensing, etc? I feel like with a couple of lyric changes, this show could be a steady earner in high school and community theater for a long time. I
veronicamae said: "This weekend I was channel surfing and was confused/surprised that Phillipa Soo was on my TV. And then she turned around and started talking to Adam Chanler-Berat, who was also on whatever that show is.
Woah -- I did a quick IMDB search, and it's "The Code" on CBS. And I've never seen so many Broadway folks make appaerances in just 8 episodes of television. Here's a list of names I recognize (and I'm sure ther
Eliza2 said: "and by "breaking close to even," they are hemorrhaging the money from the initial investment that is not being paid back to the investors."
I get that. But how does closing solve that problem? Forgive me if I'm being dense, but it seems that staying open if you're treading water is the best hope in terms of paying that back. Aside from eventual tour/licensing revenues, and I don't know how those are dole
Eliza2 said: "Here I Am said: "But you asked why people thought it wasn't doing well, and I answered your question with fact. People think it's not doing well because financially, it's not. And unfortunately, that's what matters to keep a show running on Broadway."
OK, but do you have any actual knowledge of its weekly running costs? It's averaged $560,000 per week so far in 2019. I've seen it said many times that 50% of poten
GeorgeandDot said: ...so they're playing the stakes like they're performing Macbeth.
They're not "playing the stakes" that way. Those *are* the stakes to the characters. Because they're teenagers. That's what teenagers feel. Maybe you were different, but I think most humans remember at least *once* feeling just like that: that what you're going through has never been endured before. That what&#
Scarlet Leigh said: It's a decent show (also why didn't it get a orchestrations nomination, that's the real snub) but I get a bad impression of some showspersonally that are okay, good, or even decent, that have toxic fanbases that get up in my face on social media over how perfect, wonderful, and untouchable that show is. Not against the SHOW itself but against thatTOXIC part of the fanbase. That chunk that is currently raging on twitter and tumblr over this being and talking
- This is the bitter old timer in me, pardon me for a moment.... but I am drinking the delicious tears of the BMC Stans in my cereal this morning as it got pretty much exactly what I figured it was gonna and it's really lucky to have gotten Score considering that their were other strong play scores waiting in the wings to take it's spot. That was a "welcome to Broadway at last Joe" nomination. Fans that don't recognize that while they might
The Great Apr 28
2019, 08:12:58 AM
The fifth slot isn’t automatic, unless they’ve changed the rule since 2017-2018.
“Where there are nine or more eligible shows in a Best Show category, at the Tony Nominating Meeting, the Nominating Committee will be instructed to cast one vote each for four eligible shows as nominees on his/her secret ballot. Such ballot shall be collected and tabulated by a representative of the Accounting Firm. The four eligible shows with the highest number of votes will automatically be designated a
I'm a little ticked off right now, and wondering if someone can shed some light on the general rules that govern when a seat is labeled "partial view."
I needed to buy a last minute ticket for someone for tonight's performance. Given the general scarcity and last minute nature, I wasn't as careful as I usually am. I just grabbed a seat on Stubhub. It was Orchestra F 16 (last seat on the right). I was texting with her after she arrived and s
Apologies if there's a separate thread for seating questions -- if so, I couldn't find it.
I'm wondering why the last row of the Orchestra Center is only $99----and whether that means you're missing something because of the overhang. Can anyone confirm how much action takes place on upper levels of the set that might be obscured? Thanks!
