BWW Interviews: Anthony Rapp on Love, Loss and WITHOUT YOU

The subject matter is very heavy, how do you handle addressing the death of Jonathan Larson and your Mom in your show every single night?

The fact of my Mom's death or Jonathan's death are facts of my life. They're things that I have to live with every day whether I'm on stage or not. There are days where I feel the sadness more keenly and there are days where I just feel fondness, love and gratitude. Sadness over the loss of someone is commensurate with the love that you had for them. Because of that, I'm not afraid of the sadness, it is part of what it means to be alive. Losing people is part of loving people, and I think it's incredibly rare to go through life and never lose anyone.

There are certainly moments where it is heavier than others but I weather that storm, move through it and come out on the other side. It's nothing to be afraid of and doing the show never really feels 'heavy'. It feels intense and rigorous but I feel like it's alive and the people in it are alive to me for those eighty minutes. It brings them to life when I tell their story and I evoke them when I share their voice and their words. I feel close to them and the audience response is enriching and gratifying.

Do you think that the losses you experienced made you more driven? Did it ever make you acutely aware of how short life is and make you want to make sure you accomplish certain things?

Not really, I've always been a very driven person. For me RENT was in many ways the culmination of everything I've worked for my entire life. That's not to say I haven't done other things that I'm very proud of, but I feel like in a way everything after RENT has just been gravy. If I were to die right now, or even twenty years from now, I feel like the lead line of my obituary is likely always going to be 'Member of the Original Cast of RENT'. It will probably go down as the most notable thing in my life.

And does that make you happy?

Sure. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity. The original cast members of A Chorus Line have gone on to other things but I imagine people will always remember them for that show. I don't think people think of Gilmore Girls when they think of Kelly Bishop - they remember her for being a Tony Award Winner for A Chorus Line. It had a huge cultural impact and was transformative and RENT was as well.

So in that sense the losses I experienced in my life never made me feel like I had to write this book before I died, I feel like almost anything that happens to me from this point onward is just a great thing I get to do. I'm sure other amazing things will happen in my life, but if I died tomorrow I would die happy.

How about regrets? Do you purposely try and live the message of 'forget regret'?

Absolutely. I try hard not to have any regrets. My life is pretty hectic in terms of travel and work and when I'm in these periods where I'm working a lot it can be hard. When I got RENT it was the first time in my adult life where my world became really crazy, and it filtered out people who were more casual acquaintances than true friends. Even now with this path that I've chosen there are certain sacrifices in terms of the amount of time I can spend with my core group of friends, but they understand. The life we live in this business is very different from most human beings in so many ways. I understand that more and more the older I get - the landscape of the world that I live in is very different from 'average'. And sure I've made mistakes and I've hurt people and I've screwed up, but I don't think I have any real heavy regrets.

As you get to have all these amazing experiences in your life, do you ever have a niggling feeling of sadness when you think about things your Mom would have loved to experience?

Sure. I think about her a lot when I travel. She didn't express a lot of regrets before she died but one thing was that she wished she had traveled more. So in those situations I think of her, and certainly around the holidays. She loved cities and she loved to walk, and most of the places I go are great walking cities.

I remember on the first anniversary of her death I was in London doing RENT and that day was in many ways harder than the day that she died. I think that's true for a lot of people who lose someone, because you become acutely aware of how much life has carried on in their absence. Plus it was hard because she wasn't there and I know she would have loved it.

We were also starting to become adult friends, and starting to talk more and become closer. I'm sad that we didn't get to continue that and I think we would have been able to become even more open had she not passed away.

She was with you in Toronto when you filmed Adventures in Babysitting. Now that you're back in the city do you have specific memories of her time here?

She loved it in Toronto. She loved to walk and this is a great city for that so she explored a lot. I didn't have a lot of free time when I was here but I do remember going to those big record stores on Yonge Street and hanging out in arcades at night playing Super Mario Brothers.

For people who don't know the musical RENT or anything about Jonathan Larson or your book, what would you say to encourage them to come and see the show?

When I go to the theatre what I want to experience is heart, soul and truth. I want to feel like life is being reflected back at me. That I can find a mirror of human experience on stage. I feel like my show is that, so if that's something that someone goes to the theatre for than I think they will enjoy my show.

Musicals often don't do that, they're more focused on the glitz and the entertainment value. I think my show is entertaining, but we use music to help tell a story in a way that many musicals don't. I think we are successful in doing that in an effective, moving and meaningful way. I met a couple in Boston when we workshopped there and they had never heard of RENT, didn't know that Jonathan had died and they were very taken with the whole show. They were interested and engaged in the entire story, not just the parts they assumed they could relate to. I think that's encouraging.

When and Where?

Without You

The Panasonic Theatre

On now until January 6th

Tickets are $25 to $79 and can be purchased in person at the box office, by phone at 416-872-1212 or online at

Without You is the second show in the Off-Mirvish Season. For more details please visit their website here

There are a limited number of $20 rush tickets available in person at the box office two hours prior to the show.

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Kelly Cameron Kelly Cameron's love affair with the theatre began when she was just five years old, on an outing to see the Original Canadian Cast of Les Miserables at the Royal Alexandra Theatre in Toronto. She instantly fell in love, and is honoured to be representing the Toronto contingent of BroadwayWorld as Senior Editor overseeing the GTA region.

Her writing career started almost by accident, though it has always been in her blood as her Mom was an English teacher who firmly believed in the importance of being able to turn a phrase. She also loved sharing her love of theatre with her students (and her children), and was a staunch supporter of the arts in Toronto.

When not at the theatre, you can usually find Kelly with a Starbucks in one hand and her BlackBerry in the other, tweeting, reading or doing something quirky and clumsy for the sake of getting that next big story.

She's incredibly grateful to the amazing Toronto theatre community who have embraced her with open arms, giving her the greatest gift a little redheaded theatre geek could ever ask for - getting to be a part of this vibrant arts and culture scene. She may have never had the skills to be on the stage, but is thankful every day she gets to write about the inspiring people who do.

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