Joe's Pub Announces Rated RSO, Willie Nile, Baby Dee
Joe's Pub at The Public Theater debuted in October 1998 and has quickly became one of New York City's most celebrated and in-demand showcase venues for live music and performance. With its genre-blind booking and vast diversity of interests, the stage at Joe's Pub gives voice to a world of varied and stellar artists.
SON OF A GUN
Monday, May 9 at 7:00 PM; $17
Danderhauler Agamemnon Khrusty finally admits to himself and his girlfriend, Lucy that he is going to quit the family band. The confession proves untimely when the next day their father and band leader is diagnosed with aggressive tongue cancer, leaving Dan the responsibility of carrying on the family legacy. Packed with dueling cowboys, flaming vans, seduction and one angelic host, Son of a Gun is a darkly comic rock/country musical that tells the tale of this wildly eccentric Appalachian family. Music by Don and Lori Chaffer of the band Waterdeep. Book by Chris Cragin (Public Theater EWG 08) and Don Chaffer. Directed by Steve Day, Drama League Fellow and Artistic Director of Firebone Theater. Cast Includes: Justin Badger (Hair), Billy Brimblecom, Lori Fisher (Barbara's Blue Kitchen), Rebecca Hart (Struck), Jared Mason (Million Dollar Quartet), Drew McVety (Billy Elliot), Ryan Melia (PigPen Theater), with additional band members Michael Castillejos and musical director David Hahn.
RATED RSO: COLLEGE EDITION Presented by Pace U
Monday, May 9 at 9:30 & 11:30 PM; $15
Pace University presents Rated Rso: College Edition.
One night. Two performances. Don't miss the world premiere of Pace University presents RATED RSO: COLLEGE EDITION, featuring the talents of Pace University's Freshman BFA Musical Theater Class of 2014 and the music of Ryan Scott Oliver (Darling,35mm, Mrs. Sharp).
Also, catch a sneak peek of songs from RSO's brand new show, "Jasper in Deadland". You don't want to miss it.
Tuesday, May 10 at 7:00 PM; $25
"Stunning...THE rock'n'roll album of 2011!" - BBC
"One of the best singer-songwriters of our time." - JAM Magazine
The New York Times called him "one of the most gifted singer-songwriters to emerge from the New York scene in years." His album "Streets Of New York" was hailed as "a platter for the ages" by UNCUT magazine. He has been called everything from "a one-man Clash" (UNCUT) to "the next Bob Dylan" and his critically acclaimed solo albums have gotten rave reviews around the world. Bono, Lou Reed, Lucinda Williams and Little Steven are among those who have sung his praises. For more information go to willienile.com
Tuesday, May 10 at 9:30 PM; $15
One of entertainment's most ?amboyant musical artistes of the last decade, Baby Dee is back with a new LP, Regifted Light, on Drag City Records. the album is not merely charming, nor simply enchanting and/or deeply touching - it is also an unusually arrayed album, scattering four vocal performances among eight smartly arranged, classically focused instrumentals, creating quintessential Baby Dee in all her unconventional glory.
Baby Dee is an extraordinarily feeling talent on the keyboard, and while she can play anything put before her, her passion is for the concert grand: e Steinway D in particular, or, as she puts it, her "Rolls Royce of choice." is album was composed on a
very special Steinway D that has been living with Dee for the past few years and is as responsible as she is for the dynamic music and sounds of Regifted Light.
Can you sense that there is a story here? It's the old one about a love a?air between a woman and a piano. It all began after Baby Dee had met and played with Andrew W.K., and their mutual admiration and amazement was assured. She visited his NYC
home and played on his Steinway D concert grand piano. The sound she made at the keyboard was astonishing to both Andrew and Dee. As Andrew recalls, "They say that pianos become better when they're played by good pianists. Ever since Dee touched that piano, I swore it sounded better. She loved the piano and is one of the only people I met who could really appreciate it as an instrument and use it for all it's worth." A couple years later, Andrew found himself moving into a new place in a high-rise where the piano wouldn't ?t and could barely be lifted to the necessary height without a municipal order. He knew just where the piano should go, and soon, it was traveling west to reside in Dee's Cleveland home. It was then and there that these songs came into being.
Rather than record in a studio, the studio was brought to the house, where the piano resides. Recorded on the Clockwerke mobile unit at Dee's house in Cleveland, Regifted Light is illuminated by the likes of multi-instrumentalist Jon Steinmeier (Mucca Pazza), the cello of Matthew Robinson and the tuba, sousaphone and bassoon of Mark Messing. e record is notable for its largely wordless, yet wildly lyric bent, highlighted by Andew W.K.'s dramatic mixing techniques, which allow the grandness of the piano to hear and re?ect the arrangements of the band back at the listener. While there are highs and lows aplenty and several breaking ballads, there is a distinct lack of comic songs until Baby Dee capriciously unleashes one of her
most hilarious (and minimal) lyrics (" e Pie Song") upon the listener as something of a penultimate movement in this mini-aria before restatement of the theme, the falling action and the ?nal bow.
Baby Dee's musical career has seen her perform worldwide with musical connoisseurs such as Will Oldham (who co-produced Safe Inside the Day with Matt Sweeney), Antony Hegarty, Marc Almond, Alex Neilson and David Tibet. When not performing across the globe Dee resides in Cleveland with her many cats, harp and of course, Andrew W.K.'s Steinway D.
CMA SONGWRITER SERIES featuring "WHISPERING BILL" ANDERSON, DEAN DILLON, STEVE WARINER, CRAIG WISEMAN & host BOB DIPIERO
Wednesday, May 11 at 6:30 & 9:00 PM; $30
Joe's Pub and the Country Music Association are proud to announce the continuation of the successful CMA (Country Music Association) Songwriter Series with some of Nashville's finest songwriters. Bob DiPiero will return as host. CMA Songwriters Series is proudly sponsored by American Airlines, ASCAP, BMI, SESAC and GAC.
"If You Ever Stop Loving Me" / Montgomery Gentry
"Southern Voice" / Tim McGRaw
"Blue Clear Sky" / George Strait
"You Can't Take The Honky Tonk Out Of The Girl" / Brooks & Dunn
"Whiskey Lullaby" / Brad Paisley and Alison Krauss
"Once A Day" / Bill Anderson
"Give It Away" / George Strait
"City Lights" / Bill Anderson
"She Let Herself Go" / George Strait
"A Lot of Things Different" / Kenny Chesney
"A Little Too Late" / Toby Keith
"The Chair" / George Strait
"Holes In The Floor Of Heaven" / Steve Wariner
"Two Teardrops" / Steve Wariner
"Life Highway" / Steve Wariner
"Longneck Bottle" / Garth Brooks
"Live Like You Were Dying" / Tim McGRaw
"The Good Stuff" / Kenny Chesney
"Summertime" / Kenny Chesney
"Where The Green Grass Grows" / Tim McGRaw
For the past 20 years, Bob DiPiero has helped define the best that is Music Row. A legendarily funny and compelling performer, he is one of a handful setting the bar for present-day songwriter/entertainers.
As a raconteur, he may have no equal among his peers, and as a musical ambassador and bridge-builder, he has helped make Nashville a port of call for legendary performers from all genres, writing with Neil Diamond, Carole King, Johnny Van Zant and Delbert McClinton, among many others.
He is one of Nashville's most consistent and prolific writers of hits, and he remains at the top of his profession more than two decades after hitting #1 on the charts for the first time in 1983. His long string of hits includes the Oak Ridge Boys' "American Made," Montgomery Gentry's "If You Ever Stop Loving Me," Vince Gill's "Worlds Apart," Shenandoah's "The Church On Cumberland Road," Ricochet's "Daddy's Money," George Strait "Blue Clear Sky," Brooks & Dunn's "You Can't Take the Honky Tonk Out Of the Girl," and Martina McBride's "There You Are."
DiPiero has received three dozen BMI Country and Million-Air honors; CMA's Triple Play Award in 1995 and 1996, "Song of the Year" for "Worlds Apart" at the Country Radio Music Awards in 1997, and Songwriter of the Year awards in 1998 at the Nashville Music Awards and in 2000 from Sony/ATV Nashville.
Bill Anderson has been using that philosophy for almost fifty years to capture the attention of millions of country music fans around the world, en route to becoming a member of the Country Music Hall of Fame and one of the most popular, most enduring entertainers of our time.
He's known, in fact as "Whispering Bill," a nickname hung on him years ago as a result of his breathy voice and his warm, soft approach to singing a country song. His credentials, however, shout his prominence: One of the most awarded songwriters in the history of country music, a million-selling recording artist many times over, television game show host, network soap opera star, spokesman for a nationwide restaurant chain, and a consummate onstage performer. His back-up group, The Po' Folks Band, has long been considered one of the finest instrumental and vocal groups in the business.
Bill Anderson was born in Columbia, South Carolina, but spent most of his growing-up years around Atlanta, Georgia. He graduated from the University of Georgia with a degree in journalism, having worked his way through college as a disc jockey on nearby radio stations. It was while he was still in school that he began performing and writing songs. At the age of nineteen he composed the country classic, "City Lights," and began rapidly carving his place in musical history.
He moved to Nashville, Tennessee, secured a recording contract with Decca Records, and began turning out hit after hit with songs like "Po'Folks," "Mama Sang A Song," "The Tips Of My Fingers," "8X10," and the unforgettable country and pop smash, "Still." His compositions were recorded by such diverse musical talents as Ray Price, Porter Wagoner, James Brown, Debbie Reynolds, Ivory Joe Hunter, Kitty Wells, FaRon Young, Lawrence Welk, Dean Martin, Jerry Lee Lewis, Aretha Franklin, Walter Brennan and many others.
Bill has been voted Songwriter Of The Year six times, Male Vocalist Of The Year, half of the Duet Of The Year with both Jan Howard and Mary Lou Turner, has hosted and starred in the Country Music Television Series Of The Year, seen his band voted Band Of The Year, and in 1975 was voted membership in the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame. Ten years later, the State of Georgia honored him by choosing him as only the 7th living performer inducted into the Georgia Music Hall of Fame. In 1993, he was made a member of the Georgia Broadcasters' Hall of Fame. In 1994, South Carolina inducted him into their Music and Entertainment Hall of Fame. And in 2001, he received the ultimate honor, membership in Nashville's prestigious Country Music Hall of Fame. An entertainer in every sense of the word, Bill Anderson was the first country artist to host a network game show, starring on ABC-TV's, "The Better Sex." He also appeared for three years on ABC's Daytime soap opera, "One Life To Live." For six years he hosted a country music game show on The Nashville Network called, "Fandango," later an interview show called "Opry Backstage," and somehow found time to be co-producer of another TNN Show called, "You Can Be A Star." In addition, Bill has appeared frequently as a guest star on television's top variety and game shows, including The Tonight Show, The Today Show, Match Game, Family Feud, Hee Haw and others. He currently hosts "Bill Anderson Visits With The Legends" on XM satellite radio.
Bill Anderson's autobiography, "Whisperin' Bill," was published by Longstreet Press in 1989 and relates the fascinating details of his life and lengthy career in show business. The book, which Bill personally wrote over a period of three years, made bestseller lists all across the south. Bill's second book, a humorous look at the music business titled, "I Hope You're Living As High On The Hog As The Pig You Turned Out To Be," was published in 1993 and is currently in its fourth printing. His most recent literary effort is "Letters To My Fans - Volume One."
Bill Anderson continues to paint a broad stroke across the Nashville music scene. He has been a member of the Grand Ole Opry since 1961 and performs there regularly. He continues to record, his latest album, "Songwriter," having been released as well as a video of the first single, "Thanks To You."
Despite his hectic schedule and the demands of his multi-faceted business enterprises, Bill has made a renewed commitment to his first love - songwriting. "I feel like I've come full-circle," he smiles, "because songwriting is what got me to Nashville in the first place." In 1995, Billboard magazine named four Bill Anderson compositions - "City Lights," "Once A Day," "Still," and "Mama Sang A Song" - among the Top 20 Country Songs of the past 35-years. No other songwriter had as many songs listed.
Anderson closed out the 20th century with a pair of #1 hits, "Wish You Were Here," by Mark Wills and the Grammy nominated "Two Teardrops" by Steve Wariner. His song, "Too Country," recorded by Brad Paisley along with Anderson, Buck Owens and George Jones, won CMA Vocal Event Of The Year honors for 2001. The following year saw Kenny Chesney soar with his version of the Anderson-Dean Dillon masterpiece, "A Lot Of Things Different."
But in a period of twenty-five months between November, 2005, and December, 2007, Anderson enjoyed perhaps the most fertile period of his songwriting life. He won CMA Song of the Year honors for his and Jon Randall's poignant ballad, "Whiskey Lullaby," recorded by Brad Paisley and Alison Krauss, a Dove Award from the Gospel Music Association for co-writing with Tia Sillers the Country/Gospel Recorded Song of the Year, "Jonah, Job, and Moses," sung by the Oak Ridge Boys, and his first ACM Song
of the Year Award for "Give It Away," recorded by George Strait and written with Buddy Cannon and Jamey Johnson. "Give It Away" went on to win the CMA Song of the Year as well as affording Anderson his fourth Grammy nomination.
In 2002, Broadcast Music, Inc. named Anderson its first country music songwriting Icon, placing him alongside R&B legends Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, and James Brown as the only recipients of that prestigious award. In 2008, the Academy of Country Music honored him with their inaugural Poets Award. His compositions can be heard on recent or forthcoming releases by Sugarland, Kenny Chesney, Vince Gill, Joe Nichols, Sara Evans, and others, serving notice that the past fifty years may well have
been only the beginning.
Between 1979-1983, as an artist Dillon charted eight times, and broke the Top 30 with "I'm into the Bottle (To Get You Out of My Mind)." He also wrote hits for other country stars, like the 1983 George Jones hit "Tennessee Whiskey." These successes establishEd Dillon as a performer and songwriter. Dillon took a hiatus from recording and concentrated on songwriting. He wrote or co-wrote a number of hits during this period, and had considerable success with George Strait, who took five of his songs to the charts between 1981-1988.
Dillon's songwriting career thrived for the rest of the 1990s, as he continued to work with Strait and newer faces like Kenny Chesney, Toby Keith and Lee Ann Womack. In 2002, he was inducted into the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame (along with Bob Dylan and Shel Silverstein). At present, Dean is still cranking out the hits and just this year recorded a duet with his friend and hero George Strait. "West Texas Town" co-written with the fabulous Robert Earl Keen can be found on Strait's Troubadour album. To date Dillon has had over fifty songs recorded by King George alone. Other notable hit songs penned by Dillon include Kenny Chesney's "A Lot of Things Different", Toby Keith's "A Little Too Late", Lee Ann Womack's "Twenty Years and Two Husbands Ago" and Strait's "She Let Herself Go".
The last time Steve Wariner recorded an instrumental album, he won a Grammy Award.
"Producer's Medley," drawn from his acclaimed CD My Tribute to Chet Atkins, was named the Country Instrumental Performance of 2009 by the Recording Academy. Steve now has four of the music world's highest accolades.
"That Grammy was definitely a big inspiration, no doubt about it," Steve comments. "It was quite an encouragement. That, plus so many guitar guys saying to me, ‘Do more, do more.'
"Rebounding off the Chet project, I got a whole lot of communication from the guitar world. Some serious guitar players really felt compelled to express how they felt about that record. It really meant a lot to me.
"So I was in a guitar frame of mind. I spent hours and days in my studio trying out different riffs and tunes. And I decided I wanted to do a project that showed versatility and diversity. What I wound up trying to do was not only demonstrate the different styles that I can play, but also the different kinds of music that I love."
Steve Wariner calls his new collection Guitar Laboratory. The title comes from a friend's remark that he seemed like a "mad scientist" holed up in his studio while he was making it.
Just as its maker says, the record is a showpiece of instrumental versatility. "Kentuckiana" is breezy, "traveling" music. "I Will Never Forget You" has the lilting mood of an old French bistro. "Waikiki ‘79" evokes Hawaiian music. "Phyllis and Ramona" has a shuffling, jazzy groove. "Sting Ray" is rock ‘n' roll, while "Up the Red Hill" and "Crafty" are country.
Textures range from folk to swing to rockabilly on this continually compelling collection. Whether it's the rapid-fire "chicken pickin'" sound of "Tele Kinesis," the mellow mood of "A Groove," the jaunty and bright style of "Goody 2 Shoes" or the sweetly mournful "White Dove," the performances on Guitar Laboratory are consistently ear tickling. A speedy, dazzling arrangement of the standard "Sugar Foot Rag" and the bouncy Chet Atkins evocation "Pals" illustrate the disc's diversity.
Most guitarists have an identifiable "sound" or a particular groove they generally fall into. With this stunning collection, Steve Wariner emerges as a brilliantly diverse craftsman, far ahead of most of his peers.
"It was all just so much fun," he insists. "I couldn't help myself. I just couldn't resist working on it. Sometimes, I was up there in the studio in the middle of the night. This was a project I just had to do."
On "Goody 2 Shoes," "Kentuckiana," "Tele Kinesis," "Up the Red Hill," "White Dove" and "Waikiki '79," Steve Wariner plays all the instruments you hear. "Crafty" is a solo on acoustic guitar.
Elsewhere on the album, he enlisted some of Nashville's finest players to collaborate with him. The legendary Leon Rhodes is his partner on "Sugarfoot Rag." Top session musicians join Steve on "A Groove" and "Phyllis and Ramona." His talented sons Ross and Ryan Wariner join him on "I Will Never Forget You" and "Sting Ray," respectively. Ross, 23, is a student at Belmont University in Nashville who also works full time and has a pop band called Kinderkastle. Ryan, 27, has a rock group called Sweet Eastern Saint and tours as a sideman in LeAnn Rimes's band.
"They're both in town, but actually they were the hardest to pin down," their proud pop reports. "They're both so busy working all the time, but I really wanted to get them involved in this, if they could or would.
"I had begun ‘I Will Never Forget You.' Ross came to me with the idea, though. He had the vision. He had the whole story in his mind about a World War II soldier leaving his French girlfriend behind after the war. The rest of his life he regretted it. So my challenge was to try to tell that story without having words.
"Ryan is more ‘80s, guitar-driven rock ‘n' roll. I had a couple of little riffs going on the song ‘Sting Ray.' I sent him an MP3 with me noodling on this little groove. When I talked to him the next day, I go, ‘Did you get it?' He goes, ‘Yeah, but I modified it. I came up with something I think is cooler.' He embellished it. I let him run with it.
"I'm proud of both of those guys. Ross and Ryan are like polar opposites. I think my two sons pretty much display the diversity of this project."
The most obvious guest on Guitar Laboratory is Paul Yandell, who plays on "Pals." The guitarist is the reason Steve Wariner became a recording artist in the first place. Indiana native Steve was discovered as a teenager by Grand Ole Opry star Dottie West. After touring as a member of her band for three years, he was hired by Bob Luman. Steve was playing bass on Luman recording sessions produced by Johnny Cash in 1976, and Paul Yandell was playing guitar.
"Bob would say, ‘Play that song for John.' We were in the studio, and I'm shaking, because I'm playing a song for Johnny Cash. I wound up singing four songs, and we recorded all four. They were the first songs I ever had recorded, ever. Paul Heard these and offered to take some of my songs to Chet Atkins. He said, ‘Chet needs to hear from you.' So that's what began everything."
Thanks to Yandell, Atkins signed Steve Wariner to RCA Records. When Steve's early singles struggled and his boss Luman died in 1978, Chet also hired the youngster for his band, in 1979.
After seven years with RCA and hits such as "All Roads Lead to You" and his remake of Luman's "Lonely Women Make Good Lovers," Steve Wariner moved to MCA Records and stardom. Between 1984 and 1990, he topped the charts consistently with self-penned smashes like "You Can Dream of Me," "Where Did I Go Wrong" and "I Got Dreams," plus hits such as "Lynda," "Life's Highway," "The Weekend" and "Some Fools Never Learn." He took home his first Grammy Award for his 1991 performance of "Restless" with Vince Gill, Ricky Skaggs and Mark O'Connor.
His 1991-92 hits on Arista Records-- "Leave Him Out of This," "The Tips of My Fingers" and "A Woman Loves"--led to a Gold Record for his CD I Am Ready. In 1996, Steve was invited into the prestigious cast of The Grand Ole Opry. His tenure at Capitol Records in 1995-2000 resulted in Gold Records for Burnin' the Roadhouse Down (1998) and Two Teardrops (1999). Steve's self-written 1998 hit "Holes in the Floor of Heaven" was named Single and Song of the Year by the Country Music Association. He befriended fellow guitar wonder and Capitol artist Keith Urban and co-wrote the latter's 2001 smash hit "Where the Blacktop Ends." During this phase of his career, Steve also scored notable hits in duets with Garth Brooks, Clint Black and Anita Cochran.
Collaborating with his fellow stars also led to two more Grammy Awards. Steve's 1999 "Bob's Breakdown" western-swing instrumental with Asleep at the Wheel earned him his second. His 2008 Grammy was for "Cluster Pluck," an instrumental collaboration with Brad Paisley and other stellar guitarists.
In the new millennium, Steve Wariner and his wife Caryn formed their own label, SelecTone Records. Guitar Laboratory is his fifth collection for the company, following Steal Another Day (2003), Guitar Christmas (2003), This Real Life (2005) and My Tribute to Chet Atkins (2009). In a community full of such tremendous instrumental talents, Guitar Laboratory places Steve Wariner in the forefront.
"With all the different styles, I know it's a show-offy album," he says, chuckling. "I guess this is my real self-indulgent album. But with my own studio and my own label, I have that liberty. I think I'm in a real good place."
Founder of Big Loud Shirt Industries, Craig Wiseman is one of today's most celebrated songwriters and has played a significant role in shaping Country music. To date, Wiseman has had well over 300 cuts, 100 singles, 18 #1's and has had songs on over 80 million records sold. He has also won countless awards, including a Grammy for Tim McGRaw's 10 week #1, "Live Like You Were Dying", ASCAP's Songwriter Of The Year three times and CMA & ACM Song Of The Year awards in consecutive years. In 2009, Craig was honored by NSAI as the Songwriter Of The Decade. Craig has written songs for, among many others, Faith Hill, Kenny Chesney, Beverly Knight, Roy Orbison, Dolly Parton, Brooks & Dunn & Toby Keith.
Marlo Marron w/ special guest MoM
Thursday, May 12 at 7:00 PM; $15
Marlo Marron was born in New York City and was immersed in the world of art and music before she could talk. Marlo's father managed the legendary recording studios, Electric Lady (Jimi Hendrix) and Record Plant (working with Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, and Stevie Wonder and more) as well as musicians during the 70's at Bearsville Studios in Woodstock. Her mother of African American descent was a fashion model of historical significance thus beginning Marlo's passion for travel and devotion to projects of education within several countries in Africa. Having been exposed to varied cultures and music while growing up among musical legends gave birth to her own artistic expressions. Living amongst madness and magic inspired Marlo's need to create through song, music, theatre, and film. Marlo Marron returns to Joe's Pub again after several sold out shows in the past, most recently debuting her last two albums, "Blind Pony" and "Stay With Me Awhile", both produced by the gifted musician and songwriter, Stuffy Shmitt. Both albums featured musicians and engineers who have worked with acclaimed artists such as Aimee Mann, Jewel, Sonic Youth, Ryan Adams, and Bruce Springsteen.
Tonight's show at Joe's Pub is an evening of music in response to the 40th year Anniversary of Electric Lady Studios. After deep reflection Marlo has created an eclectic night of songs that are both originals and covers reflecting her experience growing up behind the scenes in an intense world of music, fashion and art. The show will be an authentic expression of her multi-cultural life. The music presented in this show will reference her relationship to her childhood experiences at the legendary Electric Lady recording studios, her father and his intimate connection to '60s and '70s music icons Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Nicks, as well as her time spent in Spain, Africa and her love of children- the world's children as well as her own. This show is Marlo Marron's message of love.
MoM - A Rock Concert Musical. Selected songs.
"Outstanding Musical", NY International Fringe Festival. "Five suburban moms start up a band just for laughs and inadvertently become a phenomenon."
Bridget Everett & THE TENDER MOMENTS
Thursday, May 12 at 9:30 PM; $15
Bridget Everett hits the stage with a live band and a bottle of booze to sing all her favorite love songs and share the stories of the men that made her ... feel? From tender moments to prison sex, come get inside her. Special guests include Murray Hill and more!
"You can call it making love, you can call it having sex, but somebody is getting fucked tonight." -Bridget Everett
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