Theater for Uma, The Parisian Woman

[RaisedOnMusicals]

Anyone know, or willing to hazard an educated guess as to where The Parisian Woman will locate come November? I'd assume it will be in a 1000 seat or less playhouse.

[BroadwayConcierge]

I predict the Booth.

[RaisedOnMusicals]

BroadwayConcierge said: "I predict the Booth.

I doubt it. The Booth has a capacity of only 766, and I doubt that the producers will want such a small capacity when they are banking on a star to sell tickets for a 20 week limited engagement. So I'm thinking it will be a house of 1000 or so.  Not TOO small, but right for a play. If the play (and Uma) get good reviews, it will keep ticket prices high  

If I'm right, what 1000 seat theaters will be available?

 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Well, let's do process of elimination if the show is said to be opening November 30 and ostensibly beginning previews in mid-to-late October:

Theaters that are currently occupied and will safely be through at least the fall: Ambassador, Broadhurst, Broadway, Brooks Atkinson, Gershwin, Lunt-Fontanne, Hirschfeld, Majestic, Minskoff, Music Box, Neil Simon, New Amsterdam, O'Neill, Rodgers, Schoenfeld, Shubert, Sondheim, Winter Garden

Theaters that are currently slated to open a new show in the fall: American Airlines, Barrymore, Belasco, Circle in the Square, Cort, Friedman, Palace, Vivian Beaumont, Walter Kerr

Theaters that are otherwise unlikely to host the show for other reasons: Helen Hayes, Hudson, Lyric, Marquis, St. James

That leaves the following categories:

Theaters with current tenants that could randomly open up for the fall: Golden, Longacre 

Theaters with current tenants in real danger of fall vacancies: August Wilson, Imperial, Jacobs, Lyceum, Nederlander

Currently vacant theaters: Booth, Studio 54

So, there ya go. I just personally predict the Booth, but take your pick.

[BroadwayGuy12]

I doubt it's the Booth; otherwise it would have been announced already, with the dates and preliminary casting. My guess is they're waiting for a theatre that's already booked to announce a closing date - something like the Jacobs or the Golden, both of which very well could be available come fall. 

[RaisedOnMusicals]

BroadwayConcierge said: "Well, let's do process of elimination if the show is said to be opening November 30 and ostensibly beginning previews in mid-to-late October:

Theaters that are currently occupied and will safely be through at least the fall: Ambassador, Broadhurst, Broadway, Brooks Atkinson, Gershwin, Lunt-Fontanne, Hirschfeld, Majestic, Minskoff, Music Box, Neil Simon, New Amsterdam, O'Neill, Rodgers, Schoenfeld, Shubert, Sondheim, Winter Garden

Theaters that are currently slated to open a new show in the fall: American Airlines, Barrymore, Belasco, Circle in the Square, Cort, Friedman, Palace, Vivian Beaumont, Walter Kerr

Theaters that are otherwise unlikely to host the show for other reasons: Helen Hayes, Hudson, Lyric, Marquis, St. James

That leaves the following categories:

Theaters with current tenants that could randomly open up for the fall: Golden, Longacre 

Theaters with current tenants in real danger of fall vacancies: August Wilson, Imperial, Jacobs, Lyceum, Nederlander

Currently vacant theaters: Booth, Studio 54

So, there ya go. I just personally predict the Booth, but take your pick.

Could you expand a bit on the category of theaters that are "unlikely to host the shows for other reasons"? I think at least one of them might very much be in play  

 

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[BroadwayConcierge]

RaisedOnMusicals said: "Could you expand a bit on the category of theaters that are "unlikely to host the shows for other reasons"? I think at least one of them might very much be in play"

Lyric and St. James: Both undergoing massive renovations to make way for their big hits in the spring (Harry Potter and Frozen, respectively).

Helen Hayes: Also currently undergoing renovations, but even still, it's now owned by 2econd Stage, which has already announced its anticipated season.

Hudson: A) 1984 is set to close in mid-October, which I don't think leaves enough room for load-out and load-in for a November 30 opening, and B) I've been hearing rumors about ATG's next tenant there, none of which include Parisian Woman.

Marquis: Of all the theatres I included on this list, I guess this one could be the one to be a possibility, with On Your Feet! closing next month. But I think this is more of a musical house than a play house, and I'd imagine something more along the lines of The Illusionists to tide the venue over until Margaritaville.

[AEA AGMA SM]

This play would be swallowed in the Marquis, so I really doubt that it would be used as a place holder between On Your Feet and Escape to Margaritaville. 

 

It's certainly feasible that it could go into the Hudson. 1984 is set to close on October 8, if I recall correctly. If they could load out Sunday in the Park and load-in and tech 1984 in 3.5 weeks then that could certainly happen for this show as well (not saying that it's going to the Hudson, but the time frame is certainly feasible).

[RaisedOnMusicals]

AEA AGMA SM said: "This play would be swallowed in the Marquis, so I really doubt that it would be used as a place holder between On Your Feet and Escape to Margaritaville.  

It's certainly feasible that it could go into the Hudson. 1984 is set to close on October 8, if I recall correctly. If they could load out Sunday in the Park and load-in and tech 1984 in 3.5 weeks then that could certainly happen for this show as well (not saying that it's going to the Hudson, but the time frame is certainly feasible).

Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking. Gun to my head, I'd bet on the Hudson.

 

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[Robbie2]

Probably the Golden...Meteor Shower may take the Booth

[Allegra23]

So Hudson it is.

[Jarethan]

RaisedOnMusicals said: "BroadwayConcierge said: "I predict the Booth.

I doubt it. The Booth has a capacity of only 766, and I doubt that the producers will want such a small capacity when they are banking on a star to sell tickets for a 20 week limited engagement. So I'm thinking it will be a house of 1000 or so.  Not TOO small, but right for a play. If the play (and Uma) get good reviews, it will keep ticket prices high  

If I'm right, what 1000 seat theaters will be available?

 Does anyone really think that Uma Thurman is going to sell tickets in a serious way?  I will be really surprised if that is the case.  Pulp Fiction is 20 years ago, and I would have thought that the majority of members of the Kill Bill crowd are not theatre goers.  Beside those, what else has she really done that was a hit because she was in it.  Not trying to be a jerk but I think of her as being most famous for her marriage to Ethan Hawke, sort of a Tier 3 Brangelina.  I am struggling to remember any non-Tarantino movies in which she appeared that were any good.  There was Gattaca, but that was the Hawke / Law's movie.

PS -- Not dissing Kill Bill fans, I have loved most of the Quentin Tarantino movies for their sheer audacity

PPS -- Just went and looked at her film portfolio.  I was right.  Decent number of movies, but never even heard of most of them and some that I did, she had a microscopic role in, e.g., Burnt.  Tarantino aside, her film portfolio is very unimpressive, with no real hits that I can recall.

 

[BWAY Baby2]

True- Uma is hardly a big name in the movies these days- but House of Cards is a big hit and has a big following. I do think that the play itself will be the draw if gets very good reviews and is a good play. Jennifer Ehle is not much of a name either- but look at Oslo? If the play is of a high quality- a limited run should go just fine- if the play is a mediocre one- I agree that her name alone will not be a draw. 

[Jarethan]

BWAY Baby2 said: "True- Uma is hardly a big name in the movies these days- but House of Cards is a big hit and has a big following. I do think that the play itself will be the draw if gets very good reviews and is a good play. Jennifer Ehle is not much of a name either- but look at Oslo? If the play is of a high quality- a limited run should go just fine- if the play is a mediocre one- I agree that her name alone will not be a draw. 

 

I was responding to a specific post, which was premised on her name selling tickets.  I have no objections to her coming to Broadway, I think it is great.  She is a beautiful, fairly talented actress.  I just question whether her association with the show is going to sell any tickets, which the original poster took as a given.

If, in fact, they are really planning a limited engagement, the producers must also think she will sell tickets the way many stars in limited engagements do...otherwise it will have little / no opportunity to return its investment.  Curious Incident aside, what is the last non-musical that returned its investment in 20 weeks without a star as the underlying reason.  Since I do not think Uma's name will sell as many tickets as Sally Field's sold for Glass Menagerie or Patti Lupone and Debra Winger sold for that Mamet disaster 7 or 8 years ago or Jennifer Ehle sold for Oslo, I think it is a mistake to assume it will return its investment in 20 weeks, so why announce a limited engagement?.

Now, I love 2-time Tony winnerJennifer Ehle and I was delighted to see her in Oslo; but I would have seen Oslo with or without her or Jefferson Mays, based on reviews from its prior Lincoln Center run.  Had it been a for-Profit engagement, however, the producers would have either had to rely on MUCH bigger stars to help sell tickets for a limited engagement or plan for an open-ended engagement. 

Of course, they can always extend without her (we see how well that is doing for ADHP2 without its original lead), but that was not the premise of the original post, with which I was disagreeing.