Indecent Closing

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#2Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/13/17 at 10:17pm

You've just announced it! I imagine there'll be a press release tomorrow then?

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dramamama611
#3Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/13/17 at 10:18pm

It wasnt.  Yet. 


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

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#4Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/13/17 at 10:22pm

I feel bad for the cast. I really enjoyed the show and thought the cast was excellent. 


Not to be confused with Dave19.

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Broadway Joe
#5Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/13/17 at 10:22pm

Can't say I'm surprised about this one either. I thought this show was rather meh and I would have probably left early if there was an intermission. 

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#6Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/13/17 at 10:29pm

It's a good show, but not a "broadway" show. Happy Voguel finally made it to Broadway. But wish it had been with a more interesting play. 

10086sunset
#7Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/13/17 at 11:11pm

Nice news break, PThespian.

Perhaps M. Butterfly will be announcing soon at the Cort.

Updated On: 6/13/17 at 11:11 PM

lczvera
#8Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/13/17 at 11:19pm

No!!!!! I was hoping to go again @ the last performance, don't let it be the same day as Sunset Blvd's closing nightIndecent Closing

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Mr. Nowack
#9Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 12:49am

Hoping this one holds on till the end of the summer, I was hoping to catch it late July.


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KnewItWhenIWasInFron
#10Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 12:58am

Count me among those who loved this production. It seems like the plan/expectation always was that it would be a short run (although perhaps there were hopes for more Tony recognition and a not-quite-as-short run). Lenk probably knew all along that she was going to be moving on to another commitment with "The Band's Visit" and regional productions of "Indecent" were already being announced literally the day it opened on Broadway.

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wonderfulwizard11
#11Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 1:05am

Not a surprise in the least, but a real shame. I don't think anyone involved expected Indecent to be a smash, but it got some fairly dismissive notices from critics which felt unwarranted. For my part, it was one of the best and most devaastaring plays of the year, and Taichman fully deserved that Tony. 


I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

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everythingtaboo
#12Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 10:45am

I just looked on Telecharge and it's now only booking to 6/25.

A shame, everyone I know how saw is raving about it.




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LesWickedly
#14Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 12:38pm

Paula Vogel is (understandably) not happy. https://twitter.com/vogelpaula/status/875026258710736897

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dramamama611
#15Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 12:40pm

A really remarkable piece.  Does anyone know if it has been published yet?


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BroadwayConcierge
#16Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 12:48pm

She's blaming straight white men for the failure of her commercial theatrical production in a dense season? Really?

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#17Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 1:01pm

She's blaming Brantley and Jesse Green for praising the other plays (by or about straight white men presumably) and for not praising Indecent and Sweat, not directly blaming straight white men. Overall unnecessary IMO though.

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LYLS3637
#18Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 1:01pm

Does her tweet refer to Ben Brantley and Jesse Green? If so, I'm confused. I thought Ben Brantley really liked it and made it a Critics' Pick?


"I shall stay until the wind changes."

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#19Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 1:02pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "She's blaming straight white men for the failure of her commercial theatrical production in a dense season? Really?

 

I think she's saying that reviews from Brantley and Green shut her play down, while those by straight white men are still open.

I don't think she's saying Brantley and Green are straight!

 

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newintown
#20Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 1:13pm

Brantley's review of Indecent  was not a pan, but it was mixed, and it was not a Critic's Pick.

But poor unfortunate Vogel blaming white men for the failure of her play is as sadly wooly-headed as Theresa Rebeck blaming misogyny for her numerous failures. Indecent has much to recommend; but, personally, I found it to be a triumph of wonderful staging and acting over rather shapeless and fuzzy writing. Nevertheless, it was clearly not the kind of crowd-pleaser that was going to be a hit with the masses needed for financial success (ditto the powerful but flawed Sweat).

Many artists believe that their work deserves something - adoration, popularity, bushels of money; it shows how comfortable and entitled we've grown as a culture. Art merely is; it deserves nothing.

If Vogel yearns for popular and commercial success, she should pay closer attention to the things that do make money - i.e., facile works that may appear profound on the surface, but are easily digested by the lowest common denominator.

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LYLS3637
#21Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 1:21pm

newintown said: "Brantley's review of Indecent  was not a pan, but it was mixed, and it was not a Critic's Pick."

My apologies. I saw the show advertise it as a critics pick and it's because Isherwood made it one for the 2016 production at the Vineyard.


"I shall stay until the wind changes."

fb1123
#22Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 2:30pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "She's blaming straight white men for the failure of her commercial theatrical production in a dense season? Really?

 

it's 2017, it seems they are to blame for everything

 

DeepVSexyWitch2
#23Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 2:48pm

Unfortunately, Broadway is indeed a white straight/gay man's game. Look up the ratio of how many plays by women are produced each year against plays written by men. The scale is incredibly tipped. Vogel and Nottage are both extremely talented playwrights who create worthy and interesting work. I personally feel both shows deserved better from critics and audiences alike. Vogel isn't wrong in speaking her thoughts. There always seems to be a sense on this board of "that's showbiz, kid!" but showbiz and commercial theatre are notoriously laced with racism and misogyny. 

Straight white men aren't to blame for everything, it's just tiresome that their voices tend to prevail above the rest. 

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wonderfulwizard11
#24Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 2:51pm

Eh, I think Vogel has something of a point. I think Brantley and Green were needlessly dismissive towards both plays, and I say that as someone who didn't love Sweat. As much as critics have an impact, these two have the most, and a woman or a person of color could have been hired in Green's place who might have had a different take on both plays. I think it's also a reaction to the Tonys, which gave Best Play to the only play not written by a woman and featuring few women, all of whom were underdeveloped. Sure, both critics are not fully to blame, but given that it took her and Nottage this long to get a play on Broadway at all, I understand her frustration. 


I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

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bwayphreak234
#25Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 3:01pm

I think that tweet is tacky beyond belief.


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newintown
#26Indecent Closing
Posted: 6/14/17 at 3:07pm

"I personally feel both shows deserved better from critics and audiences alike."

Again, plays don't deserve anything - you write them, produce them, put them out there, and they find an audience or they don't. Blaming others for one's own failure(s) is excessively immature and ultimately self-destructive.