Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
10086sunset
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/8/16
#1Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 8:18am
http://nypost.com/2017/05/25/is-groundhog-day-musical-in-trouble/
Best news to come out of this article is that Angels is looking to transfer.
ladypresent
Understudy Joined: 3/13/17
#2Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 8:31am
Reidel is usually wrong on all of his predictions. Also i would imagine Kinky boots will be closing in the fall so maybe it could go in there? Thogh GHD probably wont make it past january of 2018.
Updated On: 5/26/17 at 08:31 AM
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#3Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 9:04am
It's percentage of gross money is only at 60%.....it's not doing great business...but I doubt it's closing its doors too soon.
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neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#4Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 9:12am
Things haven't been looking great for them for awhile, and that's a low advance, so that's no surprise.
Does "next season" for Angels mean 17/18 or 18/19??
#5Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 9:18am
Yeah, I've been looking at tickets and there are a lot and a lot of tickets for all of the performances. Hope the Tonys spike everything up
#6Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 9:19am
"'Groundhog Day' is a long shot, theater people say, though a snappy production number on the June 11 Tony telecast could well boost its box office."
I don't really recall anything like a "snappy production number" in Groundhog. They could do the car chase number ("Nobody Cares"*), which seems to be an audience favorite, but then the humans (vs puppets) wouldn't get much of a showcase. The most coherent numbers are the ballads ("Everything About You," "If I Had My Time Again," "Night will Come," etc.), but it seems that ballads are rarer than peppy numbers on the Tony Awards, doesn't it?
#7Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 9:38am
I wouldn't classify "If I Had My Time Again" as a ballad, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them perform that number on the telecast.
#8Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 9:40am
In what reality is it hovering at 1 million Riedel?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#9Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 9:42am
Only Riedel would predict that Groundhog Day was going to be a smash hit.
So to review the article: Groundhog Dog is in trouble but not really don't worry! Also, the star-studded and acclaimed revival of one of the most important American plays might transfer- who would've guessed!?
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Updated On: 5/26/17 at 09:42 AM
BroadwayConcierge
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/24/15
@z5
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/30/15
#11Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:02am
Why can't ANGELS go to the Kerr since that's empty and I don't recall anything announced to go in soon.
#12Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:04am
Kad said: "Only Riedel would predict that Groundhog Day was going to be a smash hit.
So to review the article: Groundhog Dog is in trouble but not really don't worry! Also, the star-studded and acclaimed revival of one of the most important American plays might transfer- who would've guessed!?"
And you left out the other half of the "shocker," that if it transfers, Jordan Roth will be all over it.
#13Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:08am
Jordan Roth? Produce a work with gay themes? Well, I never!
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Ginger3108
Swing Joined: 5/4/17
#14Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:18am
10086sunset said: "http://nypost.com/2017/05/25/is-groundhog-day-musical-in-trouble/
Best news to come out of this article is that Angels is looking to transfer.
Can you confirm or deny you are Michael Riedel?
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#15Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:24am
Tbh, I was surprised when Jordan jumped all over the white straight misogynistic Groundhog Day.
Skimbleshanks2
Broadway Star Joined: 2/11/15
#16Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:25am
I mean, much as I love ANDY KARL, I won't miss "Playing Nancy".....
This show will be TARGET NUMBER ONE after it loses all seven Tonys... Even I know that LOL
"See that poster on the wall? Rocky Marciano." - Andy Karl as Rocky in 'ROCKY'
#17Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:34am
... "Playing Nancy" was the best song in that show. Sigh. I'd argue that was the only bearable song in that show.
Caption: Every so often there was a rare moment of perfect balance when I soared above him.
Skimbleshanks2
Broadway Star Joined: 2/11/15
#18Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:38am
You know GROUNDHOG DAY needs to close when even SKIMBLES thinks BEN PLATT deseves the Tony LOL!
"See that poster on the wall? Rocky Marciano." - Andy Karl as Rocky in 'ROCKY'
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#19Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:45am
How does one thing (the best actor Tony) have anything to do with the other (GHD closing)? Lots of shows won't win the "important" awards and won't need to close.
Without a bump from the Tony coverage, it will last the sumer...with one, to January.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Skimbleshanks2
Broadway Star Joined: 2/11/15
#20Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:47am
B/c it's the only tony GROUNDHOG could conceivably win... They could try to leverage that for a longer run one supposes...
Not saying it would WORK, just that they could try... I think the show will be gone by Jan as well!
"See that poster on the wall? Rocky Marciano." - Andy Karl as Rocky in 'ROCKY'
#21Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 10:47am
Valentina3 said: "... "Playing Nancy" was the best song in that show. Sigh. I'd argue that was the only bearable song in that show.
You are right, Playing Nancy is the best song in the show - given to a character that I cared nothing about and whose "arc" did nothing to move the action forward.
This was the most disappointing show of the season. I was bored.
#22Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 11:41am
Riedel is right in 2 parts of his argument though...
- No one expected Dear Evan Hansen to be the SRO hit that it is.
- No one expected Come From Away to actually be a Tony contender and be open past Tony Nominations, let alone be a regular of the Million Dollar Club.
Honestly going into this season there were only 3 things that most assumed:
- Hello Dolly would be the Hottest Ticket in Town
- Natasha Pierre and The Great Comet of 1812 would be the only Fall show that would definitely make it to the Spring on the back of Josh Groban.
- Charlie and the Chocolate Factory would open with a massive advance and would quickly burn through it once reviews came out like every other show that has played Lunt-Fontanne Theatresince Beauty and the Beast closed.
All of that was even foggier when Groundhog Day announced its Broadway intentions in January of 2016. This season has honestly been one of the most unpredictable in a long time.
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#23Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 11:45am
"All of that was even foggier when Groundhog Day announced its Broadway intentions in January of 2016. This season has honestly been one of the most unpredictable in a long time."
No, and no. Thanks as always, bdn.
VotePeron
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/2/13
#24Riedel on Groundhog Dog possibly being in trouble
Posted: 5/26/17 at 12:32pm
Angels is opening at another Jujamcyn house. Soon.
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
