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#125Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/29/17 at 6:36am

On one level, Tamate commits suicide because she is convinced Kayama's mission will be a failure (he has said that if it was a failure, they know what they must do). This makes her the first real victim of the Westerners' arrival; not a national tragedy but an intensely personal one.  On another level, her story is over.  Kayama's arc to his own Westernization (downfall?) may not have happened with Tamate's continued love and support.  He's lost his anchor.


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Updated On: 4/29/17 at 06:36 AM

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#126Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/29/17 at 2:26pm

It would be quite impossible to NOT understand what is going on. The plot is quite self-explanatory if you listen to the lyrics.

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#127Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/29/17 at 4:20pm

I really enjoyed this production and Doyle's direction.  I found the entire experience to be very beautiful.  I had not seen any other production or heard a single song previously so that gives me a different perspective than many people on this thread.  That being said, I think a production like this is better viewed without comparing it to the original.  I feel like it is often very easy to feel nostalgic for an original production that you viewed many times and when someone makes changes it annoys the part of your brain that just wants to re-experience the original production you saw.  I personally love what Doyle said in that American Theatre article.  "There will always be a part of the audience that has a fundamental approach to how a work should be done—a nostalgic element. Good directors who do revivals don’t set out to trash the original. They’re honoring the original. They simply hear the words differently and see the work differently. For them, it’s a different experience."

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#128Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/29/17 at 4:35pm

Dancingthrulife2 said: "It would be quite impossible to NOT understand what is going on. The plot is quite self-explanatory if you listen to the lyrics."

In regards to Tamate? Maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention, but listening to the lyrics even now, her reasons aren't super clear. I have been watching the video of the original and think the whole moment is much clearer there, actually. 


I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

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#129Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/30/17 at 2:26am

There Is No Other Way was sung by two "Observers" in the original Broadway production. As Tamate did a dance, her feelings and thoughts were expressed through the Observers. Kayama dressed to meet the Americans as the scene progressed. It was a beautiful moment ending with Tamate taking out a sword after Kayama has left. We're left with wonder if she will kill herself or not. And, of course, we discover that she did as Kayama finds her upon his return. Another great moment in the show.  For me, this production didn't have that emotional pull. Having Tamate and Kayama sing There Is No Other Way felt odd to me. But then I guess I have that nostalgic feel for the show as Mr. Doyle mentions in the interview mentioned here. Again, I saw the Broadway production 17 times. I will always love this show so  it feels strange that I don't have an urge to revisit this production.

p.s. Again, no boat? That scene stoped the show on Broadway as Boris Aronson's incredible set came downstage in several pieces. Not to mention Tharon Musser's brilliant lighting. If you haven't seen the YouTube tape of this show, and hopefully it's still available there, you owe it to yourself to check it out. I have trouble with some of the camera choices but it's still incredible that it exists at all.

Updated On: 4/30/17 at 02:26 AM

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#130Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/30/17 at 12:25pm

Let's imaging, for the moment, that John Doyle were to direct a production of MY FAIR LADY, omitting  Alfred Doolittle's two time-consuming ensemble numbers, replacing Ascot with Mrs. Higgins' at-home day (being true to Shaw, of course), and eliminating the ball, since Higgins tells the whole story anyway during "You Did It".  Sleek, trim, and able to be done in one act.  Would I still be nostalgic for the real thing?

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT I WOULD!


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Updated On: 4/30/17 at 12:25 PM

mpkie
#131Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/30/17 at 12:37pm

I quite enjoyed this production. But I did read this thread (when it was only 1 page long), which was good for calibrating expectations that it was a small, minimalist off-Broadway affair with bare stage and essentially no costume. I also didn't pay a ton of money -- I won the lottery -- which was a great way to see this show on the cheap. I recommend that if you are on the fence and can leave it to chance to try your hand at the lottery.

I have no previous exposure to Pacific Overtures, didn't know what it was about, and wouldn't have known about the cuts if you hadn't told me. I realized that between this and Sunday in the Park with George, I'm not a huge fan of Sondheim (hoping to give it one more shot with Sweeney Todd). Nonetheless I found this story and the characters compelling. 


The story was really easy to follow. I actually liked how the actress playing Tamate drifted in and out of being an audience surrogate and an actual character within the show. When the story began to re-focus on Kayama, I think that is where it started to shine. It's odd there's confusion about Tamate's suicide, but I suppose that some people may never have heard of the practice of seppuku / harakiri (not sure which is the more appropriate term). In order to preserve your honor and the honor of your family, rather than face failure (e.g. capture by enemy), you must commit suicide (code of samurai). I thought that was pretty clear when he said, "You know what you must do" (paraphrasing). That's why when she sings, "I Will prepare for your return" (paraphrasing) over and over in an upbeat way, it was pretty heartbreaking because they were 100% confident he was going to fail.

Also, this is the first time I've seen an on/off-Broadway production with 100% Asian cast, and their performances were absolutely splendid. As an Asian-American it's always a bizarre and refreshing experience (outside of The King & I -- while I loved, I found to be almost offensive stereotyping, as it was from a white person's vantage point -- Allegiance was the first time I saw a show predominantly Asian cast, Vietgone was the other).

I really enjoyed the history lesson, too, even though it barely scratched the surface. I've honestly never though about the end of Japanese isolation and the impact of it, and this show has certainly piqued my interest.

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#132Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/30/17 at 1:08pm

I saw this production last night.   I think Kdogg makes a good point that, once stated, seems to go without saying, but still *needs* to be said in the context of this discussion.  (There is a sentence there, just take your time reading it).  

Your first version of a show--the one you've been listening to for years-- is the "correct" version.  MY version of 'Pacific Overtures' started out as an LP, so there were even cracks, hisses and pops that my ear used to expect at certain points.  There are wonderful performances in this show and some lovely moments--as others have said, 'Someone in a Tree' is outstanding--but it isn't MY 'Pacific Overtures'.

Am I glad I saw it?  Absolutely. Perfect, they say, is the enemy of good.  If you have the opportunity to see just 80% of a show you love, why not see it??  

 

 


You think, what do you want? You think, make a decision...

amaklo
#133Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/1/17 at 4:20pm

I saw this yesterday afternoon as the first part of my Sondheim Sunday off-Broadway double feature (Sweeney Todd at night). I never saw a production of Pacific Overtures before, but I wore out the OBC record many years ago. Unfortunately, while I still appreciate the beauty and wit of the score, and the performances were very good, this production doesn't come close to being worthy of the material.  The staging was so minimal, it was like a concert version of a truncated score. If you're going to do such a minimalist production, why not just do the whole thing?  I don't get it.  I didn't like Doyle's Sweeney Todd either, so I guess he's just not my cup of (chrysanthemum?) tea.

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#134Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/1/17 at 4:53pm

I appreciate reading the differing opinions of Doyle's work on the show, and I assume that Sondheim and Weidman have agreed to them. Doyle is a variable talent, imo; he truly brought THE COLOR PURPLE to life, but his work on THE VISIT, which I saw years ago at Signature and loved, did not help the piece at all.

PACIFIC OVERTURES is a difficult show; over the years I have come to admire and even love it. I am seeing it later this month, and am hopeful that this version respects the material.

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#135Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:35pm

Finally saw this tonight. Terry Teachout was there and at least one other critic. 

Pacific Overtures is the one Sondheim show I have the least connection with, although I am extremely fond of the score. This was my first live production of the show and I have to say that I quite enjoyed it. It clearly feels like a cliff notes version of the show, as some plot points roll by without enough time to communicate its importance. I found the staging unique, immersive, and strange in the Doyle sense that we've all come to expect.

The star of the show is the achingly beautiful score played by a surprisingly full sounding orchestra. Of course, nothing beats the grand sound of the original orchestrations, but this sounded perfect for the small theater. 

The case is excellent, Harada is standout, and Takei is indeed wasted. 

Many elements of this production need to settle with me and I would absolutely like to see it again. As someone without a deep connection to the show, this production felt fulfilling enough for my first exposure to the actual show. If you're not a Doyle fan, you will not change your mind with this production, as he uses  his usual bag tricks throughout the show. If you're new to Pacific Overtures, definitely give this a chance. 

Updated On: 5/3/17 at 09:35 PM

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#136Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/3/17 at 9:57pm

I was also there tonight! 

The production works despite Doyle's self-serving, opaque, and humorless take on the show, largely because it is a strong piece of musical theatre. In fact,  "Someone in a Tree" and "Please Hello" are almost perfection- because Doyle lets the material do the talking and his very talented cast serve it and not his vision.

The orchestra sounds wonderful and far larger than its size and the whole cast acquits themselves very well. Takei is underutilized but I do feel maybe his part was reduced to fit his current abilities. 

But the piece was not written to support an austere directorial vision, and it constantly seems to chafe against the constraints upon it.  The central symbol of the young woman simply doesn't cohere into a clear vision, while Doyle's go-to crutch of swapping clarity for symbolism is in heavy use. His cuts don't sharpen the focus, but rather reduce the scope (not to mention rob "Next" of its potency as a finale).

I would recommend seeing it simply because how often will you get to see Pacific Overtures? And that stretch of the show- "Someone in a Tree" through "Please Hello"- very nearly soars and makes it worthwhile. But it succeeds despite Doyle's attempt to shackle it.

 


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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#137Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:08pm

I agree, using the young woman as the central symbol felt like a framing device that wasn't explored or communicated well enough. 

And yes, "Someone in a Tree" and " Please Hello" were stunning moments, the former is touchingly and beautifully performed because as you said he lets the unbelievable song do the work. "Welcome To Kanagawa" and "Pretty Lady" were also standouts for me.

Updated On: 5/3/17 at 10:08 PM

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#138Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/3/17 at 10:19pm

Welcome to Kanagawa I think is funnier depending on the side of the audience- my side didn't see the fans until later in the song, so it took me a while to figure out what The Madam was referring to. In all honesty though, the more I listen to the song, I'm just not sure it's a very funny song period. 


I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.

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#141Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/4/17 at 7:28pm

The Hollywood Reporter is a rave 

"A masterwork in miniature."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/pacific-overtures-theater-1000003

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#142Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/4/17 at 8:09pm

Green hits the nail on the head, for me at least. 


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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#143Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/4/17 at 8:10pm

I agree, Green gave it an extremely fair assessment.

 

NBC NY is Positive

“Pacific Overtures” is a complicated musical, even by Sondheim standards. But Doyle has shaped a delicate production that’s comparatively easy to parse.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/entertainment/the-scene/Review-Sondheim-Pacific-Overtures-Takei-421320143.html

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#144Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/4/17 at 8:18pm

Theatermania is Positive, though has a minor issue with the sound design. 

Fans of Sondheim's score may be disappointed by the absence of the palace intrigue number "Chrysanthemum Tea," a fun but ultimately unnecessary song that slows the progress of the story while introducing new characters that never reappear. Beyond that omission, this ultra-lean production retains every other number in the score and they all sound gorgeous under the direction of Greg Jarrett, who leads a two-tier orchestra with an entire level solely devoted to percussion. The sound is magnificently rich in this intimate space.

Megan Masako Haley plays the most inscrutable part in this production: She briefly occupies the minor role of Kayama's wife, Tamate, but she remains onstage long after Tamate is out of the picture. She silently observes everything with a catlike sense of wonder and caution. She is the spirit of Japan in one body, mournfully reviewing the past while peering apprehensively into the future. She has yet to make a decision about her next move, but as the explosive finale number suggests, we ought to brace ourselves for what happens when she does.

http://www.theatermania.com/off-broadway/reviews/pacific-overtures_80968.html

Updated On: 5/4/17 at 08:18 PM

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#146Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/4/17 at 9:27pm

Sidenote: While Green's review has some mixed aspects, he did make it a Critic's Pick. 

Updated On: 5/4/17 at 09:27 PM

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#147Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/4/17 at 9:48pm

Variety is Positive

Theatergoers who treasure their memories of the opulent production originally staged on Broadway by Harold Prince will have to pack those memories away. Spectacle has no place in this production; it’s replaced with intimacy. By seating the audience on both sides of the ramped stage, Doyle creates the enchanting illusion that John Weidman’s historically faithful book and Sondheim’s magnificent score are literally unfolding from the pages of an ancient manuscript.

http://variety.com/2017/legit/reviews/pacific-overtures-review-george-takei-1202409370/

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#148Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/5/17 at 4:25pm

Justoldbill, that assessment of Tamate's suicidal significance was terrific. I own the Finishing the Hat book and found it tough to glean all the context and subtext for this show by reading the (brilliant) lyrics alone...


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#149Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 5/13/17 at 7:29pm

This is a very belated reply to hushpuppy's post of April 9. (I saw the show this afternoon, and just read through this whole thread.) i'm glad to know I'm not the only nit-picky type who was bothered by the hammer and sickle being on the Russian flag in the 1850's. I'm not only nit-picky, I'm also obsessive, so I Googled and found out that the hammer and sickle were added to the Russian flag in 1923. Good to know if you're ever on Jeopardy.