There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Alex M
Broadway Star Joined: 11/16/13
#1There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 4:57pm
I feel like its the right time for the show to return.
Updated On: 11/22/16 at 04:57 PM
rangersrule132
Featured Actor Joined: 2/29/16
#2There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 5:11pm
I would like to say I agree with this before the contrarians of the board come along
#3There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 5:14pm
They should do it as a farewell for when they finally remove Andrew Jackson from the $20 bill.
GreasedLightning
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/11/14
#4There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 5:15pm
Alex M said: "I feel like its the right time for the show to return.
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I truly feel like a small production of this (similar to New Group's Sweet Charity) would really do well nowadays.
@z5
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/30/15
#5There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 5:15pm
There's probably not enough demand for it, definitely not a revival considering it bombed just a few years ago.
GreasedLightning
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/11/14
#6There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 5:21pm
@z5 said: "There's probably not enough demand for it, definitely not a revival considering it bombed just a few years ago.
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In my opinion, BBAJ didn't get the chance they deserved a few years back. I think they should have another shot. And they could totally market it as "one of the most controversial historical musicals returns to New York amidst one of the most controversial elections in history" or something of the sort.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#7There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 5:59pm
I loved it...more so off Broadway then on, and thats where it belongs, off.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
UncleCharlie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
#8There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 6:10pm
GreasedLightning said: "@z5 said: "There's probably not enough demand for it, definitely not a revival considering it bombed just a few years ago.
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In my opinion, BBAJ didn't get the chance they deserved a few years back. I think they should have another shot. And they could totally market it as "one of the most controversial historical musicals returns to New York amidst one of the most controversial elections in history" or something of the sort.
Great! How much can we count on you to put up to make this happen? Or are you just comfortable reviving a show the public clearly said they weren't interested in seeing when it's only other people's money at stake?
GreasedLightning
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/11/14
#9There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 6:48pm
UncleCharlie said: "GreasedLightning said: "@z5 said: "There's probably not enough demand for it, definitely not a revival considering it bombed just a few years ago.
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In my opinion, BBAJ didn't get the chance they deserved a few years back. I think they should have another shot. And they could totally market it as "one of the most controversial historical musicals returns to New York amidst one of the most controversial elections in history" or something of the sort.
Great! How much can we count on you to put up to make this happen? Or are you just comfortable reviving a show the public clearly said they weren't interested in seeing when it's only other people's money at stake?
"
Um...
#10There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 6:55pm
Well that took a turn...
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UncleCharlie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
#11There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 8:13pm
GreasedLightning said: "UncleCharlie said: "GreasedLightning said: "@z5 said: "There's probably not enough demand for it, definitely not a revival considering it bombed just a few years ago.
"
In my opinion, BBAJ didn't get the chance they deserved a few years back. I think they should have another shot. And they could totally market it as "one of the most controversial historical musicals returns to New York amidst one of the most controversial elections in history" or something of the sort.
Great! How much can we count on you to put up to make this happen? Or are you just comfortable reviving a show the public clearly said they weren't interested in seeing when it's only other people's money at stake?
"
Um...
Well, you very well could be right, but at least I'm not someone happy to ask other people to take huge financial risks for my pleasure but without even a trace of guts to take any myself..
#12There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 8:38pm
UncleCharlie said: "Well, you very well could be right, but at least I'm not someone happy to ask other people to take huge financial risks for my pleasure but without even a trace of guts to take any myself.."
What's the last Broadway show you financed / produced?
"Contentment, it seems, simply happens. It appears accompanied by no bravos and no tears."
UncleCharlie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
#13There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 8:47pm
gypsy101 said: "UncleCharlie said: "Well, you very well could be right, but at least I'm not someone happy to ask other people to take huge financial risks for my pleasure but without even a trace of guts to take any myself.."
What's the last Broadway show you financed / produced?
Wrong question, smart guy. The question you should have asked me is what was the last Broadway show I said should have a revival even though it failed miserably at the Box Office just a few years ago the first time through. The answer would be there aren't any cause I don't expect other people to spend money to bring back failed shows just cause I might like to see them again.
#14There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 8:50pm
hm nope even if it had never been on broadway before it's still a big risk, so my question stands.
"Contentment, it seems, simply happens. It appears accompanied by no bravos and no tears."
UncleCharlie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
#15There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 9:00pm
gypsy101 said: "hm nope even if it had never been on broadway before it's still a big risk, so my question stands.
None. I'm not a Broadway producer or financier nor did I claim to be. Far too risky. Which is why I never EXPECT someone to bring a show to Broadway I might want to see cause I realize the incredible risks involved. But I am very grateful when they do.
But we seem to agree it's a big risk and in my mind even more so if it in fact has run on Broadway recently.and failed. All the more reason not to expect someone else to take that risk just cause i might like to see it again. So perhaps you could explain exactly what point you're trying to make cause I'm not seeing it.
#16There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 9:09pm
people are allowed to anticipate or want a musical to go to Broadway without being the ones to finance or produce them. I didn't think my point was that complex.
"Contentment, it seems, simply happens. It appears accompanied by no bravos and no tears."
UncleCharlie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
#17There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 9:26pm
gypsy101 said: "people are allowed to anticipate or want a musical to go to Broadway without being the ones to finance or produce them.
You're right, they are. And people are also allowed to ask others to climb into the alligator pit at the zoo to try to retrieve a ring they dropped. People are allowed to ask others to do many different risky things they might not be willing to do themselves. It doesn't mean those requests are reasonable or immune to critique. See how that works. Different people can believe different things and even express them in the same thread cause this is, you know, a discussion board.
I didn't think my point was that complex.
And if that in fact was your point, you should have asked me the question I suggested, not the one you asked which still makes zero sense, hence my confusion.
This has been fun! Have a great evening.
#18There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 9:42pm
UncleCharlie said: "So perhaps you could explain exactly what point you're trying to make cause I'm not seeing it."
On a Broadway discussion board, it's entirely appropriate for people to express their opinions about which shows merit revival, regardless of whether they have any interest in investing in a production.
Cupid Boy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/5/13
#19There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 10:00pm
I completely agree with the sentiment UncleCharlie is expressing. What's the point of blindly declaring that a show should be revived? It's a gross simplification of the work and the consideration that goes into mounting a commercial production. The OP offered no explanation as to what would make Bloody Bloody so ripe for a revival.
Can't it be enough to just point out that a show's themes relate to current events? It would lead to much more fruitful discussion.
Updated On: 11/22/16 at 10:00 PM
#20There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 10:22pm
So now we have to guarantee commercial success if we say we'd like to see a show revived?
Not even legendary producers such as Hal Prince, Alexander Cohen and David Merrick were able to predict commercial success even half the time. But now participants in a message board are required to do so?
This is a ridiculous requirement. The OP opined that the time was right to bring the show back. It's a fair question to ask why s/he thinks it would do better now than it did a few years ago, but the snarky demand that s/he guarantee a successful return on investment is obnoxious!
Yet if that's the issue that matters to some, I think DramaMama provides an answer: the show succeeded off-Broadway before it flopped on Broadway. So revive it off-Broadway and advertise it as the show for those who can't get tix to HAMILTON. Will it be a financial smash? How the hell should I know?
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#21There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 10:38pm
And does anyone really think posting this topic would make it happen? Or that there was any expectation to it ACTUALLY HAPPENING?
No. Not at all.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#22There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 10:47pm
Didn't expect this thread to devolve into a fight, but I would enjoy seeing at least a concert version. I missed the show in the initial run but I think the recording is great (despite the short length). And Trump has been compared numerous times to Jackson on the right and the left, and I think the show's take on politics in general feels very of the moment.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
Cupid Boy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/5/13
#23There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 11:01pm
GavestonPS said: "So now we have to guarantee commercial success if we say we'd like to see a show revived?
Not even legendary producers such as Hal Prince, Alexander Cohen and David Merrick were able to predict commercial success even half the time. But now participants in a message board are required to do so?
This is a ridiculous requirement. The OP opined that the time was right to bring the show back. It's a fair question to ask why s/he thinks it would do better now than it did a few years ago, but the snarky demand that s/he guarantee a successful return on investment is obnoxious!"
Where did anyone suggest a successful return should be guaranteed? All I see is an argument for more respect for the amount of risk involved in mounting commercial productions.
#24There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 11:21pm
Cupid Boy2 said: "...
Where did anyone suggest a successful return should be guaranteed? All I see is an argument for more respect for the amount of risk involved in mounting commercial productions.
"
"Put your money where your mouth is" is a snotty remark worthy of a 7-year-old, not really an argument, yet it neatly sums up your first post. The posts before yours were actually quite civil, with posters admitting they "felt" (as opposed to "knew"
a revival might be successful, perhaps in a different venue.
Cupid Boy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/5/13
#25There should be a Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson revival and or concert
Posted: 11/22/16 at 11:37pm
GavestonPS said: "Put your money where your mouth is" is a snotty remark worthy of a 7-year-old, not really an argument, yet it neatly sums up your first post. The posts before yours were actually quite civil, with posters admitting they "felt" (as opposed to "knew" a revival might be successful, perhaps in a different venue."
You're confusing with me another poster, and "put your money where your mouth is" is not a demand that commercial success be guaranteed before suggesting a show be revived. I still see it as a call to respect the fact that investors lost millions of dollars on this property just six years ago.
