President Trump: The Coming Impeachment

[ErikJ972]

I think maybe you should re-read it.

The Flag Protection Act of 2005  called for a punishment of no more than one year in prison and a fine of no more than $100,000; unless that flag was property of the United States Government, in which case the penalty would be a fine of not more than $250,000, not more than two years in prison, or both.

That is not "similar to" revoking citizenship. 

And while I agree with KDogg that Clinton was wrong, I do think there is a difference between Clinton's bill and the President-Elect of the United States calling for people to have their US citzenship revoked. 

[brdlwyr]

There is no direct comparison to Clinton supporting a stupid bill and the President of the United States not understanding or appreciating the First Amendment.  

What is lost is how unbelievably ridiculous that flag burning is being discussed during this transition. 46 million ass-hats worrying about cloth? This is beyond scary! 

[PalJoey]

 

Between Trump's pro-Putin attitude, and the election of a pro-Putin right-winger in France, can Putin's invasion of the Ukraine be far behind?

Suestorm/Petra--do you have any Ukrainian relatives left over there? Or have they all escaped the impending onslaught of Putin's ravaging storm troopers and come over here?

At any rate, as soon as Putin has destroyed the EU and NATO and installed his puppets Donald Trump in the US and François Fillon in France, the next step will be the inevitable Rape of the Ukraine.

 

NY Times: French Election Hints at a European Shift Toward Russia

 

[Petralicious]

Pal Know-it-all  do not think anyone is surprised that you ignored Hillarys Flag Burning Bill but instead start attacking and namecalling again.

[Marianne2]

I really hope some of the things that these people say are a joke. Unfortunately,  they definitely are not. 

Bannon thinks only people who own property should vote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/28/steve-bannon-once-suggested-only-property-owners-should-vote-what-would-that-look-like/?client=ms-android-verizon

Between this & Ann Coulter's idea of only people with 4 natural born citizen grandparents voting,  who is going to be left? I realize it won't happen, and Ann certainly has no credibility for anything, but it's scary to see how people think. 

[PalJoey]

 

How 1984...

As soon as he is inaugurated, Trump will have the ability to send unblockable mass text messages to everyone cell phone in the nation. Think he'll use it?

 

NY MAGAZINE: Starting January 20, Donald Trump Can Send Unblockable Mass Text Messages to the Entire Nation

 

[PalJoey]

 

Trump's announcement this morning (on Twitter LOL) that he would leave his businesses "in total" (whatever that means) is actually the prelude to his impeachment.

There is actually NOTHING he can do to fully erase the hundreds and hundreds of potential conflicts of interest with his businesses, which means that the moment Republicans turn on him, the articles of impeachment will write themselves.

 

POLITICO: Trump vow to leave business raises more questions

 

[PalJoey]

 

The president-elect’s business holdings include entanglements with multiple foreign governments, including financing for one property coming in the form of a loan from the Bank of China. Donald Trump Jr., one of the children expected to assume control of the company, said in 2008 that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. … We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

Without divesting ownership, Trump will still have an interest in any foreign government payments and benefits that flow into the Trump business coffers, Eisen noted. “That creates such a serious conflict of interest that the framers of the Constitution prohibited it for the president in the emoluments clause,” he said, referring to a little-known requirement from the country’s founding document that bans U.S. government employees from accepting payments by foreign countries or the companies they own....

In his Twitter messages, Trump appeared to leave wiggle room to maintain ties to his company, and that continues to raise red flags on the ethics front, said C. Boyden Gray, the former White House counsel for President George H.W. Bush.

“The implication it’s not taking him out of ownership,” Gray told POLITICO. “I just don’t know if that will be enough.”

Of note, Trump could still find himself in trouble as he meets with foreign dignitaries, potential foreign investors or even local officials who have permitting or zoning authority over businesses that remain tied to his trademark name.

“The conflicts stem rather less from what he does at the company than what he does as president to help the company. They’re two separate things,” Gray added.

[Mister Matt]

There is actually NOTHING he can do to fully erase the hundreds and hundreds of potential conflicts of interest with his businesses, which means that the moment Republicans turn on him, the articles of impeachment will write themselves.

IF they turn on him.  And that's a big "IF".  It depends on whether Trump will simply play as their puppet (which will be up in the air until he's inaugurated and actually exercising power) and/or how badly they want Pence in power.  Republicans still haven't decided how they're supposed to feel about him.

[PalJoey]

 

Donald Trump is NO ONE'S puppet,

Impeachment is just a matter of time.

 

[Mister Matt]

Donald Trump is NO ONE'S puppet

I'm not really convinced.  He may not seem like it now, but once he's inaugurated, it could be a completely different story.  Especially as he's been finding out the job doesn't actually work the way he wants (because he knows nothing about it).

[Jane2]

I haven't posted in this thread until now. I'm doing it now because this whole election of Trump is so wrong, so bad, so scary - I feel like it's a nightmare come true. I can't believe it happened. In fact, I feel that it's so wrong that something will and must happen to undo it.  But then we'll have Pence, who is worse. 

We are so doomed. 

[kdogg36]

Pence presents an even greater threat to LGBT and reproductive rights than Trump does, I'll readily agree. However, I trust Pence more than Trump to control the nuclear arsenal, and to not go off on some thin-skinned tangent to provoke one of our dangerous enemies. And that means that I would prefer him to be president. We're balancing two grave evils, to be sure - the likelihood of significant setbacks in civil rights versus at least a slight chance of total annihilation - but I'd pick survival any day of the week.

I think this is basically what Clinton and Obama were getting at when they characterized the unique danger of Trump as going beyond the normal policy differences.

[PalJoey]

 

Hilary Clinton now leads Donald Trump in the total popular vote by over 2.4 million votes.

Democrats now lead Republicans in the aggregated senatorial vote.

Democrats even lead Republicans in aggregated congressional vote.

Welcome to Occupied America. We now live in under occupation, in an occupied country.

 

 

[PalJoey]

 

Time Magazine says the popular-vote lead is up to 2.5 million.

 

 

TIME MAGAZINE: Hillary Clinton Now Leads Donald Trump by Over 2.5 Million Votes: She has a wider margin in the popular vote than 10 presidents had.

 

#OccupiedAmerica

 

[BroadwayConcierge]

PalJoey said: "Welcome to Occupied America. We now live in under occupation, in an occupied country."

You demonstrate a very fundamental misunderstanding of the function of American systems of government here. We live in a republic, PJ, not a democracy. There is no "occupation," whatever the hell that means.

[adamgreer]

Broadway Concierge, I'm still waiting for you to address the very specific questions I asked upthread regarding your feelings about a number of these Trump appointments.  

[BroadwayConcierge]

adamgreer, my answer is "yes."

[PalJoey]

 

There is no "occupation," whatever the hell that means.

 

"Occupation" in this instance is very clearly an allusion to Occupied France and other occupied territories in the history if the world, defined as a territory under the authority and control of a belligerent force.

It's very obvious what it means. If it's not your obtuseness that made you feel like you didn't understand, it can only be your odiousness.

 

[brdlwyr]

We are occupied because of our dismal voter turnout in the 2010 disaster which allowed the GOP Occupation of State Houses and thus the gerrymandering of the vast majority of congressional districts! 

[Petralicious]

BroadwayConcierge said: "PalJoey said: "Welcome to Occupied America. We now live in under occupation, in an occupied country."

You demonstrate a very fundamental misunderstanding of the function of American systems of government here. We live in a republic, PJ, not a democracy. There is no "occupation," whatever the hell that means.

 

To be fair to PJ, I think he meant POPULISM not OCCUPIED 

 

[PalJoey]

 

And Putin gets ready to let loose the hounds of war on your beloved Ukraine, Petra/Suestorm:

 

UK MIRROR: Angry Russia moves warships and warns of "nervous situation" as Ukraine conducts missile tests: News of the military drill close to the Crimea border has angered the Kremlin which annexed the peninsula - and is responding by sending in its battleships to the Black Sea

 

 

[A Director]

BroadwayConcierge -  Are you a Tomi Lauren fan?

[PalJoey]

Sucks to be Donald Trump this weekend. His skin-deep support among Republicans and conservatives is already fraying:

First he almost starts a nuclear war between India and Pakistan and his response is "What'd I do?"

Then he almost brings about the nuclear destruction of Taiwan and a state of war between China and the US. Again his reaction is "What'd I do? The President of Taiwan CALLED ME." (His caps, not mine.)

And then Sarah Palin, of all people, calls his corrupt deal with Carrier "crony capitalism" and a "hallmark of corruption."

 

SARAH PALIN: When government steps in arbitrarily with individual subsidies, favoring one business over others, it sets inconsistent, unfair, illogical precedent. Meanwhile, the invisible hand that best orchestrates a free people’s free enterprise system gets amputated. Then, special interests creep in and manipulate markets. Republicans oppose this, remember? Instead, we support competition on a level playing field, remember? Because we know special interest crony capitalism is one big fail.

Politicians picking and choosing recipients of corporate welfare is railed against by fiscal conservatives, for it’s a hallmark of corruption. And socialism. The Obama Administration dealt in it in spades. Recall Solyndra, Stimulus boondoggles, and all their other taxpayer-subsidized anchors on our economy. A $20 trillion debt-ridden country can’t afford this sinfully stupid practice, so vigilantly guard against its continuance, or we’re doomed.

Reaganites learned it is POLICY change that changes economic trajectory. Reagan’s successes were built on establishing a fiscal framework that invigorated our entire economy, revitalized growth and investment while decreasing spending, tax rates, over-reaching regulations, unemployment, and favoritism via individual subsidies. We need Reaganites in the new Administration.

However well meaning, burdensome federal government imposition is never the solution. Never. Not in our homes, not in our schools, not in churches, not in businesses.

 

His presidency is going to fail--and fail spectacularly. Too bad the rest of the world may get destroyed before he's impeached.

 

[javero]

It's tough to root against the home team but I want him out of there.

[PalJoey]

 

He will be soon.. 

Not soon enough, but soon.